EPTWhat rank? I've checked all 3 parts (from 15th place to 1st place). I haven't seen Neeb mentioned.
The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 3 - Page 13
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
What rank? I've checked all 3 parts (from 15th place to 1st place). I haven't seen Neeb mentioned. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 15 2017 11:47 Shield wrote: What rank? I've checked all 3 parts (from 15th place to 1st place). I haven't seen Neeb mentioned. Did you check the dates of the list? This was published at the beginning of 2016. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On January 15 2017 11:31 swissman777 wrote: beating stats and trap in PvP is quite an achievement if you ask me. He won a kespa cup of a single matchup + a lucky bracket, using a meta that no one was familiar with, and soon after it became standard he stopped being so good. I mean Neeb has been amazing but he hasn't overcome many of the past (or even current) legend foreigners just yet. I'm really not trying to bash Neeb because he's great, but those acheivements sound a tad more impressive than they really are. Like its amazing to get ro4 at WESG you say? a cup stacked with legends like Zerghamdi and Drager? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On January 15 2017 11:31 swissman777 wrote: beating stats and trap in PvP is quite an achievement if you ask me. Beating Stats is impressive. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9391 Posts
On January 15 2017 11:31 swissman777 wrote: beating stats and trap in PvP is quite an achievement if you ask me. Stats is an archievement. Trap is at best on par with other top foreigners. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On January 15 2017 12:46 Hider wrote: Stats is an archievement. Trap is at best on par with other top foreigners. And yet Trap took out TY and Solar, two of the very best Koreans. I haven't seen any other foreigners do that in a series. Elazer and Nerchio took out Solar, but ZvZ is another beast. | ||
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Comedy
456 Posts
On the original list, I feel like Ret has been overlooked. His list of accomplishments : Assembly Winter 2011 Champion MLG Columbus 2011 top8 Europe Battle.net Invitional 2011 Champion Dreamhack Winter 2011 top4 IEM Sao Paulo 2012 top4 Redbull Lan 1 2012 Champion Dreamhack Stockholm 2012 top4 HSC V Top8 NASL season 2012 season 3 top4 IEM World Championship 2013 top8 IEF 2013 3rd place WCS Season 2015 S2, top16 as well as being already older when sc2 came out, concistenty over 2 titles (bw, sc2), and years of playing at the top foreign lvl, results spanning from 2010 to 2015. Obviously had a huge dip later in his carreer, but I still think the results speak for themselves, would be in my top10-15. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On January 15 2017 11:18 Hider wrote: Nerchio has had a similar year as Neeb in 2016, and Nerchios historial results are far better than Nerchio. And no going through an easy bracket in Kespa cup is not as big of an accomplishment as you make it out to be. Nerchios results were only against foreigners which isn't very impressive (compared to the other players on the list.) In KesPa Cup and blizzcon he got crushed. And Beating Zest, Rogue and Stats certainly isn't easy. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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SpecKROELLchen
Germany151 Posts
On January 15 2017 14:02 Charoisaur wrote: Nerchios results were only against foreigners which isn't very impressive (compared to the other players on the list.) In KesPa Cup and blizzcon he got crushed. And Beating Zest, Rogue and Stats certainly isn't easy. crushed is a really hard word. He didn'tget crushed he barely didn't make it out of his groups. I think Nerchio overall one of the strongest foreigners, also showtime is on this list for me. Because it is a lot of harder to rock nowadays than at the early stage where koreans had not all built up to these monster macro machines that they are now. | ||
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ruypture
United States367 Posts
On March 27 2017 20:42 SpecKROELLchen wrote: crushed is a really hard word. He didn'tget crushed he barely didn't make it out of his groups. I think Nerchio overall one of the strongest foreigners, also showtime is on this list for me. Because it is a lot of harder to rock nowadays than at the early stage where koreans had not all built up to these monster macro machines that they are now. Sick 2 month necro... Why are people arguing about 2016-2017 foreigners from a list that was designed in 2015? | ||
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Locutos
Brazil268 Posts
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Locutos
Brazil268 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On May 29 2021 02:04 Locutos wrote: Serral > Reynor > Neeb > Stephano > Naniwa > Clem > Snute > Scarlett > HuK > Showtime? Neeb vs Stephano is debatable and Clem is too high right now as he doesn't have the results yet though it's only a matter of time. otherwise I agree | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44441 Posts
On May 29 2021 05:03 Charoisaur wrote: Neeb vs Stephano is debatable and Clem is too high right now as he doesn't have the results yet though it's only a matter of time. otherwise I agree I can get behind that too, or at least a very similar permutation. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On May 29 2021 02:04 Locutos wrote: Serral > Reynor > Neeb > Stephano > Naniwa > Clem > Snute > Scarlett > HuK > Showtime? Stephano is still #1. Recency bias is strong here. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44441 Posts
On May 29 2021 08:21 BronzeKnee wrote: Stephano is still #1. Recency bias is strong here. Would Naniwa still be #2, or would he be moved down in favor of the newer foreigner players? | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On May 29 2021 08:21 BronzeKnee wrote: Stephano is still #1. Recency bias is strong here. That seems like a pretty hard claim to make, would it have been possible for Serral, or someone else in his era to pass Stephano, or is it more of an idea of the highest skill era that that only old SC2 matter? | ||
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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