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The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 3 - Page 12

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JeffKim
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Korea (South)36 Posts
April 19 2016 00:44 GMT
#221
I can't help but see the bias in this list, so hard.
LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
May 11 2016 21:19 GMT
#222
sorry but there is no way that Snute belongs at number 3. pure bias
"No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you" - Homer Simpson
Boneyard0216
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada32 Posts
May 24 2016 15:30 GMT
#223
On January 09 2016 03:00 Lgnarrow wrote:
Where is Taeja ?

Sitting firmly with the rest of the Koreans that didn't make the top foreigner list?
Respect is earned, not given
LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 23:56:48
January 14 2017 23:55 GMT
#224
gotta say after 2016, Neeb has to be in this top 5. I wonder how long it will take to get another list like this, or if the game will be dead when the time comes and another list needs to be made

looking at it now i would still have stephano as #1 for sure...with Scarlett moving up to maybe 3rd place?

always love articles like these though even if they are biased sometimes....they're always interesting to read.
sorry if this is too old of a bump
"No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you" - Homer Simpson
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 15 2017 00:05 GMT
#225
On January 15 2017 08:55 LtCalley wrote:
gotta say after 2016, Neeb has to be in this top 5. I wonder how long it will take to get another list like this, or if the game will be dead when the time comes and another list needs to be made

looking at it now i would still have stephano as #1 for sure...with Scarlett moving up to maybe 3rd place?

always love articles like these though even if they are biased sometimes....they're always interesting to read.
sorry if this is too old of a bump


neeb only made his strides after region locking and the overall skill declined. he might deserve to be on the list but definitely not in the top 5 based on 2016 alone which was the least competitive year in starcraft history.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
January 15 2017 00:26 GMT
#226
On January 15 2017 09:05 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 08:55 LtCalley wrote:
gotta say after 2016, Neeb has to be in this top 5. I wonder how long it will take to get another list like this, or if the game will be dead when the time comes and another list needs to be made

looking at it now i would still have stephano as #1 for sure...with Scarlett moving up to maybe 3rd place?

always love articles like these though even if they are biased sometimes....they're always interesting to read.
sorry if this is too old of a bump


neeb only made his strides after region locking and the overall skill declined. he might deserve to be on the list but definitely not in the top 5 based on 2016 alone which was the least competitive year in starcraft history.

But Neeb has by far the biggest result any foreigner has ever done with his KesPa Cup win.
That alone puts him at rank 5 over Scarlett imo because that win was just so massive.
And 2016 was definitely not the least competitive year, 2010-2012 were way less competitive because KesPa players didn't switch over yet.
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 00:50:11
January 15 2017 00:49 GMT
#227
Neeb was also decent during the HOTS WCS era while playing terran. I think he made it to the offline matches a couple of times.

The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4529 Posts
January 15 2017 00:57 GMT
#228
The evidence is mounting that Neeb should make the top 5.
hi. big fan.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 15 2017 01:08 GMT
#229
No, it isn't.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 01:13:53
January 15 2017 01:13 GMT
#230
On January 15 2017 10:08 stuchiu wrote:
No, it isn't.

He's an active professional currently in the ro4 of a global $400k tournament.

Yea, i'd say it's mounting.
hi. big fan.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 15 2017 01:17 GMT
#231
No, it isn't. You can read the criteria here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/482944-the-process-of-creating-the-top-15-greatest-list

I don't give a fuck how big the prize pool is.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 01:25:01
January 15 2017 01:23 GMT
#232
On January 15 2017 10:17 stuchiu wrote:
No, it isn't. You can read the criteria here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/482944-the-process-of-creating-the-top-15-greatest-list

I don't give a fuck how big the prize pool is.

No it's is not what?

I said mounting, not has reserved his right and that does not take anything away from neeb's ever growing achievements.

I don't know how you can just discard it so casually. He's still achieving at the highest level.

Unless of course, your idea of context virtually makes it impossible for anyone post 2015 era to make you lists.
Then i unhappily stand corrected.
hi. big fan.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 15 2017 01:35 GMT
#233
I'm not casually discarding anything.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4529 Posts
January 15 2017 01:38 GMT
#234
Well I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree.

I say there's an ever growing case here, you say with absolution it isn't.

Don't think think we'll get anywhere with it.
hi. big fan.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 02:18:59
January 15 2017 02:18 GMT
#235
gotta say after 2016, Neeb has to be in this top 5. I wonder how long it will take to get another list like this, or if the game will be dead when the time comes and another list needs to be made

looking at it now i would still have stephano as #1 for sure...with Scarlett moving up to maybe 3rd place?

always love articles like these though even if they are biased sometimes....they're always interesting to read.
sorry if this is too old of a bump


Nerchio has had a similar year as Neeb in 2016, and Nerchios historial results are far better than Nerchio.

And no going through an easy bracket in Kespa cup is not as big of an accomplishment as you make it out to be.
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
January 15 2017 02:31 GMT
#236
On January 15 2017 11:18 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
gotta say after 2016, Neeb has to be in this top 5. I wonder how long it will take to get another list like this, or if the game will be dead when the time comes and another list needs to be made

looking at it now i would still have stephano as #1 for sure...with Scarlett moving up to maybe 3rd place?

always love articles like these though even if they are biased sometimes....they're always interesting to read.
sorry if this is too old of a bump


Nerchio has had a similar year as Neeb in 2016, and Nerchios historial results are far better than Nerchio.

And no going through an easy bracket in Kespa cup is not as big of an accomplishment as you make it out to be.

beating stats and trap in PvP is quite an achievement if you ask me.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 02:40:26
January 15 2017 02:39 GMT
#237
On January 15 2017 10:38 FataLe wrote:
Well I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree.

I say there's an ever growing case here, you say with absolution it isn't.

Don't think think we'll get anywhere with it.


Agreed, Neeb should be on the list whatever his rank is. Typical TL mod bias unfortunately.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
January 15 2017 02:43 GMT
#238
Yea Neeb is great, kespa cup was a big deal.

But those guys have a list of notable results, Neeb probably deserves a top 15 spot, but top 5 is way too much.
At least he is amongst the few active players, and in good form, so his rank can go up while we still have top koreans to make those tournaments GOAT worthy.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 15 2017 02:43 GMT
#239
On January 15 2017 11:39 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 10:38 FataLe wrote:
Well I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree.

I say there's an ever growing case here, you say with absolution it isn't.

Don't think think we'll get anywhere with it.


Agreed, Neeb should be on the list whatever his rank is. Typical TL mod bias unfortunately.


He already made the list.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 15 2017 02:44 GMT
#240
On January 15 2017 10:38 FataLe wrote:
Well I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree.

I say there's an ever growing case here, you say with absolution it isn't.

Don't think think we'll get anywhere with it.


From my point of view, you're the one casually discarding everything that every foreigner ever did before this.
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