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WCS Winter Championship to be held at IEM Katowice - Page 2

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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 18 2015 15:12 GMT
#21
Lol are we going to save as much money as possible when we have our WCS Welfare events by putting it next to much bigger esports titles? What a joke.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 18 2015 15:15 GMT
#22
Yeah this seriously doesn't bode well. No Korean vs Foriegner action until the Global Bloodbath at blizzcon . Oh well though I'm sure I'll still tune in, I just wish it was different.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
December 18 2015 15:15 GMT
#23
Great! Can't wait for SC2 to get shoved off to a side stage and half our viewers to be waiting for the LoL finals to start!
looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
December 18 2015 15:18 GMT
#24
I don't understand what the problem is... the total amount of money increased from 100K to 150K + 25K and now we get sick regional qualifiers... who cares if its been renamed? Yes there likely won't be many Koreans there (only Polt, Violet, Hydra, and Jaedong) but those are the Koreans who most fans seem to think are the most entertaining anyway and the 25k event will still have Koreans in it too. Plus, if high level competition is really your concern then taking the top IEM point earners from a year of Heart of the Swarm competition and having them compete in a Legacy of the Void championship would be more than a bit silly.
"The kingdom of the heavens is buried treasure. Would you sell yourself to buy the one you've found?" - Jon Foreman ('Your Love Is Strong' - Spring EP)
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
December 18 2015 15:18 GMT
#25
Well, at least the Polish fanatic audience will rock the building again.

I'm totally for the new WCS system. You might call it welfare, but without the prize money, it won't make sense at all to be a pro outside Korea. But no selfies with Zest this time: that sucks a bit
Adun toridas!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 18 2015 15:22 GMT
#26
So obvious it was gonna be like this. And really sad.
Zest fanboy.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 18 2015 15:24 GMT
#27
On December 19 2015 00:18 corydoras wrote:
Well, at least the Polish fanatic audience will rock the building again.

I'm totally for the new WCS system. You might call it welfare, but without the prize money, it won't make sense at all to be a pro outside Korea. But no selfies with Zest this time: that sucks a bit


I'm fine with the wellfare but I expected that the circuit championships would get their own venue and would be standalone events. I was also looking forward to global events but if even katowice will not be one, it leaves me little hope.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 18 2015 15:25 GMT
#28
On December 19 2015 00:18 corydoras wrote:
Well, at least the Polish fanatic audience will rock the building again.

I'm totally for the new WCS system. You might call it welfare, but without the prize money, it won't make sense at all to be a pro outside Korea. But no selfies with Zest this time: that sucks a bit

Or you know, they could commit like the Koreans do and earn their prize money instead of getting it on a silver platter.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10101 Posts
December 18 2015 15:27 GMT
#29
giving a ro16 blizzcon ticket for winning a tournament this early is kinda dumb imo
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 15:33:35
December 18 2015 15:31 GMT
#30
On December 19 2015 00:18 corydoras wrote:
but without the prize money, it won't make sense at all to be a pro outside Korea.

The prize money was already way in favor of foreign players. This year, if you failed WCS Challenger you got 2000$. If you failed Code A you got 361$. If you made top 4 in Code S, you got 3600$. If you got eliminated in the Ro32 in WCS you got 4500$.

Being a pro player in Korea isn't that easy, the money isn't that good unless you win something and if you're a B-teamer on a KeSPA team you're mostly there for dish-washing.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
barbaTossa
Profile Joined August 2012
23 Posts
December 18 2015 15:33 GMT
#31
On December 18 2015 23:15 SmykuToronto wrote:
They told me to chill. This ain't a thing I'd chill about Gz to Gfinity for becoming most stacked tourney series in SC2.


Yea, about that: Gfinity can not support a prize pool of at least 50k and will therefore not be a WCS Global event. That means it will award a total of 0 WCS points. Let's see if they are able to compete with all the money Blizzard is throwing at already larger organizations and paid trips for everyone. Oh and if Koreans are even willing to travel abroad to play a tournament of the difficulty just below GSL (because, let's face it, no foreigner wants to play in gfinity with the wcs changes) for a prize pool of 5000$ first place.

This seems already clear to everyone here but note that IEM Taipei is part of the already planned and scheduled (as IEM Asia) IEM Season X circle. It would happen either way. It is however NOT a WCS Global event since it also lacks the required price pool. It, too, will award 0 WCS points. The 'You can read more about the event over here.' leads directly to the CS:Go event and there is no informatin about Starcraft to be found. I guess it's clear what we have to expect for the next Season of IEM and from DreamHack in terms of WCS Global events.

I am simply staggered by the nonchalance pillars of the community (Apollo, messioso) say this will be fine when it's clearly not going to be and they know it.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 18 2015 15:34 GMT
#32
Actually what we really need is non WCS event. The problem is that way too much money is thrown at the joke blizzcon and I doubt we'll see much of these tournaments.
Zest fanboy.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 18 2015 15:36 GMT
#33
On December 19 2015 00:27 Topin wrote:
giving a ro16 blizzcon ticket for winning a tournament this early is kinda dumb imo

Nobody serious about a world CHAMPIONSHIP ticket is gonna give a shit about half the seats anyways, so I honestly couldn't care less.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 18 2015 15:38 GMT
#34
On December 19 2015 00:33 barbaTossa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 23:15 SmykuToronto wrote:
They told me to chill. This ain't a thing I'd chill about Gz to Gfinity for becoming most stacked tourney series in SC2.


Yea, about that: Gfinity can not support a prize pool of at least 50k and will therefore not be a WCS Global event. That means it will award a total of 0 WCS points. Let's see if they are able to compete with all the money Blizzard is throwing at already larger organizations and paid trips for everyone. Oh and if Koreans are even willing to travel abroad to play a tournament of the difficulty just below GSL (because, let's face it, no foreigner wants to play in gfinity with the wcs changes) for a prize pool of 5000$ first place.

This seems already clear to everyone here but note that IEM Taipei is part of the already planned and scheduled (as IEM Asia) IEM Season X circle. It would happen either way. It is however NOT a WCS Global event since it also lacks the required price pool. It, too, will award 0 WCS points. The 'You can read more about the event over here.' leads directly to the CS:Go event and there is no informatin about Starcraft to be found. I guess it's clear what we have to expect for the next Season of IEM and from DreamHack in terms of WCS Global events.

I am simply staggered by the nonchalance pillars of the community (Apollo, messioso) say this will be fine when it's clearly not going to be and they know it.


They're not going around in public talking about how their employer is screwing over the foundation of professional starcraft because of some complaining foreigners that prefer drama over practice? How surprising.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 18 2015 15:41 GMT
#35
On December 19 2015 00:34 sAsImre wrote:
Actually what we really need is non WCS event. The problem is that way too much money is thrown at the joke blizzcon and I doubt we'll see much of these tournaments.



I want to be a billionare...... i would just hold 250k$ Events in Europe without any WCS point and give 15 of 16 slots to korean qualifiers. Just because I am salty.
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barbaTossa
Profile Joined August 2012
23 Posts
December 18 2015 15:48 GMT
#36
They're not going around in public talking about how their employer is screwing over the foundation of professional starcraft because of some complaining foreigners that prefer drama over practice? How surprising.


I am convinced they think it's the best for the scene and it might be. Who knows? But implying or maintaining the misconception that there will be even close to as many WCS Global-type events in 2016 as in 2015 if there might in fact be none is platantly lying and hoping the community will forgive them as soon as they see the changes in action.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 18 2015 15:54 GMT
#37
At least rename to "(not really)WCS" please.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 18 2015 15:58 GMT
#38
Well fuck IEM Katowice then. Hopefully the Olimoleague is on that weekend
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
December 18 2015 15:58 GMT
#39
Part of my passion just died I think... At least we have Taipei to look forward to.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 18 2015 16:00 GMT
#40
I just want to confirm

This means no Korean players at IEM WC?

If so, I am so so disappointed and will not watch this.
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