Blizzard Reportedly Radically Overhauling WCS - Page 24

On December 13 2015 03:49 Diabolique wrote:

What made me think that it can be really true was the newest HuK's post:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1so1673

Why would I relentlessly support players I'm not actually interested in seeing play? For the sake of it? And you call out "social justice warriors"?

On December 13 2015 04:41 UrsusRex wrote:


Why should Blizzard give more opportunities to players who don't bring in the most viewers and money?

On December 13 2015 04:49 HsDLTitich wrote:
lol at people bringing up viewership... guess what, now that Korea is playing in Nation Wars they have 10k+ more viewers compared to the other days.

Koreans bring the most viewers.

Currently 20,000 people watching nationwars, a tournament I see pulling only 5,000 when its lucky. Blizzcon was 15 Koreans and 1 foreigner. It pulled over 100,000.

Probably the most watched tournament of 2015.

I dont watch foreigner games. Im not even that interested in watching them play koreans. Not a single foreigner deserves the salary they earn as far as I am concerned.

On December 13 2015 04:50 BisuDagger wrote:

I relentlessly supported brood war for years watching less skilled Koreans, and now the game is huge and those unskilled Koreans are among the top mixed in with the returning stars. My willingness to stick behind the game above all else won.

On December 13 2015 04:20 UrsusRex wrote:


From a financial and viewership perspective foriegners make up the majority especially Americans who have no representation. From a business perspective this is a sound decision having a small scene primarily in Korea is not good business for a company as large as Blizzard. The real question is why hasn't Blizzard done this sooner.

All the fanboys on here will squeal with outrage but they are an outspoken minority who do not make up most of the donors or fans in SCII esports their perspective is a poor basis for making decisions going forward. I have tried several times to get friends to watch SC2 only to have them show no interest because all of the players were Korean. Those people don't come on Liquipedia and whine they just ignore SC2 and find Esports scenes like LoL and Dota which do have many foreigners and diversity where they can actually root for the home team and have a chance of seeing them win. No non Korean can ever have that same experience in SC2.

If this decision fails or backfires expect Blizzard to abandon Starcraft as an Esport because that is what makes sense financially.

On December 13 2015 05:07 UrsusRex wrote:
"Koreans bring the most viewers."

Do they though and also do they bring in the most money? I know they don't on teamliquid but maybe they do on other websites I tried to find the numbers online but I couldn't. And if that is true does that mean anything? It could be that this is true because foreigners have stopped watching. SC2 is the least successful Esports scene losing to counter strike, LoL, Dota and if pretty soon even Overwatch and Heroes of the Storm will overtake Starcraft and Blizzard will have no reason not to abandon it. Korea can not sustain an entire Esport by itself the way a country as big as the U.S. can sustain football and baseball its just not feasible. Expanding foreign viewership is the only way the scene does not die


"Currently 20,000 people watching nationwars, a tournament I see pulling only 5,000 when its lucky. Blizzcon was 15 Koreans and 1 foreigner. It pulled over 100,000."

Yeah but Blizzcon pulled in more viewers for its WoW and Diablo than it did for SC2 and as soon as the foreigner player got eliminated they lost 40,000 viewers, I remember it being discussed on teamliquid. There is a huge segment that has no interest in watching Korean players and they don't comment on here like you they just take their money and interest somewhere else. You offer no solution for remedying this your attitude will result in the further decline of SC2.

"Probably the most watched tournament of 2015."

HAHAHAHAHAHA oh boy someones has never seen the viewership numbers for LoL, Counterstrike or Dota all of them have higher viewership numbers. There is a tournament right now that is not even the most prestigious for Dota that has over 120,000 viewers and its not even the finals its the loser bracket being streamed. SC2 can not compete with any of the other Esports scenes we have the least watched tournaments that is a fact.

"I dont watch foreigner games. Im not even that interested in watching them play koreans. Not a single foreigner deserves the salary they earn as far as I am concerned."

It really depends on how much money they bring in not skill or who the outspoken minorities commenting on team Liquid prefer. If foreigners bring in more money and viewers they deserve more promotion and opportunities. You offer no compelling argument to the contrary.