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Blizzard Reportedly Radically Overhauling WCS - Page 16

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Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
December 12 2015 09:28 GMT
#301
I look at this as good news.

Eventually the foreigner scene will die off because people will wake up and know the fraud that a lot of the top foreigner players really are. This glass floor will expose them, viewership will drop off and the scene will die .

Eventually Starcarft will return to its native home which is Korea. The fact is the real players are all based there. Its the most skillful and competitive environment.

As long as the events in Korea arnt firewalled off i will be happy
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
December 12 2015 09:30 GMT
#302
On December 12 2015 18:28 Topdoller wrote:
I look at this as good news.

Eventually the foreigner scene will die off because people will wake up and know the fraud that a lot of the top foreigner players really are. This glass floor will expose them, viewership will drop off and the scene will die .

Eventually Starcarft will return to its native home which is Korea. The fact is the real players are all based there. Its the most skillful and competitive environment.

As long as the events in Korea arnt firewalled off i will be happy


This is prolly best case scenario for ppl who like watching high quality sc2.
Legobiten
Profile Joined October 2015
71 Posts
December 12 2015 09:34 GMT
#303
On December 12 2015 18:30 Valhalla44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 18:28 Topdoller wrote:
I look at this as good news.

Eventually the foreigner scene will die off because people will wake up and know the fraud that a lot of the top foreigner players really are. This glass floor will expose them, viewership will drop off and the scene will die .

Eventually Starcarft will return to its native home which is Korea. The fact is the real players are all based there. Its the most skillful and competitive environment.

As long as the events in Korea arnt firewalled off i will be happy


This is prolly best case scenario for ppl who like watching high quality sc2.


But the worst thing for Starcraft as a played game.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
December 12 2015 09:37 GMT
#304
On December 12 2015 17:26 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 16:14 Togekiss wrote:
People here saying this won't hurt the foreign scene are completely delusional. Sure, I will tune into foreign streams and support a good personality, but if I want to watch good starcraft I will watch SSL, GSL & PL. I have absolutely zero motivation to watch the "WCS Circuit" tournaments such as DH and IEM etc if it is only foreign players competing. This is like me watching "B" Division European Football when I could be watching Champions League instead.

Yet at the same time, barely anyone here (Netherlands) watches foreign soccer clubs regularly (maybe for example the final match of the champions league, but not regularly), while many watch the 'inferior' Dutch clubs. And even their local club, despite it being absolute crap compared to what the national clubs show.

So while you have zero motivation to look at this, and thats fine, many others will be more interested in it than just another version of the GSL: If they want to see the GSL, they look at the GSL. Personally I do feel if this is actually true, it would be going too far. But preventing the European/American WCS from being just another Korean affair is good imo.



Football is a "Tribal" sport. 95% people support their hometown club. This support is passed on from Parent to Child. You are basically indoctrinated into supporting them

I support Newcastle United(my hometown club). They have been shit for the last 10+ years yet i still watch them, and i have no choice in the matter. I dont watch any other english team apart from them.

If i want to watch a high quality game i tune into Barca\Real\ Byern etc In order to appreciate the game for its skill & technical ability
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
December 12 2015 09:39 GMT
#305
On December 12 2015 18:34 Legobiten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 18:30 Valhalla44 wrote:
On December 12 2015 18:28 Topdoller wrote:
I look at this as good news.

Eventually the foreigner scene will die off because people will wake up and know the fraud that a lot of the top foreigner players really are. This glass floor will expose them, viewership will drop off and the scene will die .

Eventually Starcarft will return to its native home which is Korea. The fact is the real players are all based there. Its the most skillful and competitive environment.

As long as the events in Korea arnt firewalled off i will be happy


This is prolly best case scenario for ppl who like watching high quality sc2.


But the worst thing for Starcraft as a played game.


The game is really horrible gameplay wise thanks to all the BS has been thrown at since BETA.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 12 2015 09:45 GMT
#306
If you read the whole article, it also mentions that Take refused to kick out Koreans from HSC and thus he dropped from giving WCS points. Which in my opinion increases the legitimacy of the information, because afaik HSC was supposed to give points and then it suddenly changed and this would be a plausible explanation.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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AntsKiller
Profile Joined June 2012
27 Posts
December 12 2015 09:50 GMT
#307
I totally disagree, as well. Now there is almost no more possibilty to compare the best Players in the world.

I still hope that could be a joke or so...
Legobiten
Profile Joined October 2015
71 Posts
December 12 2015 09:53 GMT
#308
On December 12 2015 18:37 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 17:26 Sissors wrote:
On December 12 2015 16:14 Togekiss wrote:
People here saying this won't hurt the foreign scene are completely delusional. Sure, I will tune into foreign streams and support a good personality, but if I want to watch good starcraft I will watch SSL, GSL & PL. I have absolutely zero motivation to watch the "WCS Circuit" tournaments such as DH and IEM etc if it is only foreign players competing. This is like me watching "B" Division European Football when I could be watching Champions League instead.

Yet at the same time, barely anyone here (Netherlands) watches foreign soccer clubs regularly (maybe for example the final match of the champions league, but not regularly), while many watch the 'inferior' Dutch clubs. And even their local club, despite it being absolute crap compared to what the national clubs show.

So while you have zero motivation to look at this, and thats fine, many others will be more interested in it than just another version of the GSL: If they want to see the GSL, they look at the GSL. Personally I do feel if this is actually true, it would be going too far. But preventing the European/American WCS from being just another Korean affair is good imo.



Football is a "Tribal" sport. 95% people support their hometown club. This support is passed on from Parent to Child. You are basically indoctrinated into supporting them

I support Newcastle United(my hometown club). They have been shit for the last 10+ years yet i still watch them, and i have no choice in the matter. I dont watch any other english team apart from them.

If i want to watch a high quality game i tune into Barca\Real\ Byern etc In order to appreciate the game for its skill & technical ability


But Newcastle doesn't go to Champions league just because UEFA gives 8/16 spots to bad teams like in this case.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
December 12 2015 09:54 GMT
#309
On December 12 2015 18:45 opisska wrote:
If you read the whole article, it also mentions that Take refused to kick out Koreans from HSC and thus he dropped from giving WCS points. Which in my opinion increases the legitimacy of the information, because afaik HSC was supposed to give points and then it suddenly changed and this would be a plausible explanation.


It also lines up with "ESL does not want to host WCS anymore" rumor. I mean, ESL will be hosting IEM, but Intel is the one that decides what to host on their tournament (... Right?).
Horiken
Profile Joined April 2013
Japan68 Posts
December 12 2015 09:58 GMT
#310
In league of legends Korea is by far the best nation, but they only get 3/16 spot . 8/16 is OK. Korea may be strong contry, but just a small Asia country.
xdevilx2
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany38 Posts
December 12 2015 10:04 GMT
#311
Blizzcon would be pretty funny with this format. Foreigners who probably never palyed the koreans getting shrekt in the first round, so much hype...
africola
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany35 Posts
December 12 2015 10:10 GMT
#312
I really hope this is a joke! .. this would kill everything.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-12 10:15:12
December 12 2015 10:11 GMT
#313
On December 12 2015 18:58 Horiken wrote:
In league of legends Korea is by far the best nation, but they only get 3/16 spot . 8/16 is OK. Korea may be strong contry, but just a small Asia country.


I don`t get it. So what`s your point? A tourney should be quartered by nation`s size, not by one`s performance?

"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 12 2015 10:11 GMT
#314
On December 12 2015 18:45 opisska wrote:
If you read the whole article, it also mentions that Take refused to kick out Koreans from HSC and thus he dropped from giving WCS points. Which in my opinion increases the legitimacy of the information, because afaik HSC was supposed to give points and then it suddenly changed and this would be a plausible explanation.


I don't understand how they were going to justify that in the first place. I thought there was meant to be a minimum percentage of qualified players for it to possibly receive WCS points in the first place. HSC is almost entirely invites.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 12 2015 10:12 GMT
#315
Wow.. this is a sad day
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
operwolf
Profile Joined April 2008
United States324 Posts
December 12 2015 10:12 GMT
#316
On December 12 2015 17:40 Scarecrow wrote:
WCS Circuit views are going to be pitiful if it doesn't have top tier competition. Nothing really surprises me from Blizz anymore, their mishandling of SC2 has been very consistent.


Have to agree with you there, Blizzard has been consistently disappointing with their handling of SC2 for quite some time now. I just hope this really isn't true or my interest will be greatly diminished, once again.
He'll end up dead, because he'll die.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
December 12 2015 10:15 GMT
#317
On December 12 2015 10:13 Alucen-Will- wrote:
How is it that Richard Lewis ended up being a columnist for Breitbart.


Are you even surprised? I'm more in a loss for words seeing a Breitbart article featured on TL, honestly.
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
December 12 2015 10:16 GMT
#318
We have gone a full circle now, from "Koreans taking all of our monies" to "Bring back best sc2 back".

I just hope they implement the ladder in the overall process.
I am not good with quotes
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
December 12 2015 10:21 GMT
#319
Well if this is true I guess I won't be watching any IEMs etc. anymore aswell as not watch Blizzcon until the ro8 where all foreigners will have been knocked out...
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
December 12 2015 10:24 GMT
#320
The effects of lilbow tarnishing people's perception of foreigners are still apparent.
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