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Congratulations Solar! A well deserved victory.
And thanks to TY and PartinG for giving us the best series of the tournament. Too bad TY didn't get much reward for his trouble.
On November 30 2015 05:37 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
It seems like this kind of PvP is the ultimate result of David Kims “spectators first” philosophy implemented with LotV.
Viewers may grow tired of this deadly dancing after some time, but for now the majority seems satisfied with that kind of play. What about the players though? Everything said above—that you need to pay attention 100% of your time, that you need patience as well as precise, fast control and that everything can be over after one disruption—may be amazing to watch, but incredibly difficult to pull off on the field of battle. Losing a long game in this meta may feel very frustrating and draining. We’ll have to see how long players are willing to invest so much energy before searching for different ways to win.
What a strange thought process.
Why don't we go talk to Flash, MVP, Taeja, and Maru about David Kim's "new" philosophy of units requiring non-stop babysitting throughout a match. I'm sure their wrists will have something to say.
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High hopes for this expansion! One of the best tournaments I've seen in a while, can't wait for the future tournies to come.
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I came back to watch some of these games after several years of being away from the game and I really enjoyed what I saw. Took me a few games to get used to some of the new units, but overall it was really fun to watch. Disrupters reminded me a lot of reavers with scarabs that you can micro which certainly made for some exciting moments. I might see if I can get back into following the game, that was such a treat.
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On November 30 2015 11:43 pure.Wasted wrote:Congratulations Solar! A well deserved victory. And thanks to TY and PartinG for giving us the best series of the tournament. Too bad TY didn't get much reward for his trouble. Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 05:37 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
It seems like this kind of PvP is the ultimate result of David Kims “spectators first” philosophy implemented with LotV.
Viewers may grow tired of this deadly dancing after some time, but for now the majority seems satisfied with that kind of play. What about the players though? Everything said above—that you need to pay attention 100% of your time, that you need patience as well as precise, fast control and that everything can be over after one disruption—may be amazing to watch, but incredibly difficult to pull off on the field of battle. Losing a long game in this meta may feel very frustrating and draining. We’ll have to see how long players are willing to invest so much energy before searching for different ways to win. What a strange thought process. Why don't we go talk to Flash, MVP, Taeja, and Maru about David Kim's "new" philosophy of units requiring non-stop babysitting throughout a match. I'm sure their wrists will have something to say.
Congrats to Solar, was rooting for him happy to see him win.
But omfg yes, I was wondering why my wrists felt so strained after a few games nowadays, when I could play 20+ games before with ease. It's (probably) because of LotV, I'm only a few months older than when I was just playing HotS.
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Can we please stop spoilering winners of major leagues on the front page of TL? There are other ways to announce the news so it is one click away from being spoiled instead of being so in your face. Not everyone has the chance to be able to see the tournaments live...
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All Koreans were eliminated by other Koreans. There's still work to be done.
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On November 30 2015 09:21 Seeker wrote:Solar won the championship but there are no pictures of Solar? Is there another recap coming out specifically dedicated just for Solar or are we just screwing Solar over? 
Well, Solar is on the front page with his trophy, so we didn't forget about him or anything! :D
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I really hope what we saw in PvP (parting vs showtime) isnt going to be the new meta. it was the same exact thing for 20 minutes. stalkers and a handful of disruptors vs stalkers, disruptors and 5 tempests. the article says it was intense, dramatic and flashy.... if every pvp turns out like this because nothing else would beat the stalker/disruptor combo then we are looking at a really boring mirror matchup for the rest of the game.
anybody else thought "their dance" was rather boring after a while?
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Germany3367 Posts
On November 30 2015 19:04 trada wrote:
I really hope what we saw in PvP (parting vs showtime) isnt going to be the new meta. it was the same exact thing for 20 minutes. stalkers and a handful of disruptors vs stalkers, disruptors and 5 tempests. the article says it was intense, dramatic and flashy.... if every pvp turns out like this because nothing else would beat the stalker/disruptor combo then we are looking at a really boring mirror matchup for the rest of the game.
anybody else thought "their dance" was rather boring after a while?
That's why I said people might get tired of it sooner or later - some people already are tired of it of course. It's certainly a matter of taste and I can very much understand both sides in this discussion. I am torn myself on the subject.
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i think a certain player *coughs coughs* learned that giving up on the biggest tournament of the year to practice for dreamhack doesn't guarantee success.
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On November 30 2015 20:33 Kaizor wrote:
i think a certain player *coughs coughs* learned that giving up on the biggest tournament of the year to practice for dreamhack doesn't guarantee success.
Like it would have changed a thing
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Czech Republic12134 Posts
On November 30 2015 20:41 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 20:33 Kaizor wrote:
i think a certain player *coughs coughs* learned that giving up on the biggest tournament of the year to practice for dreamhack doesn't guarantee success. Like it would have changed a thing
Well Lilbow should have learned something about PR and not calling TLO a washout caster since TLO kicked him out 
Karma
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On November 30 2015 20:58 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 20:41 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 30 2015 20:33 Kaizor wrote:
i think a certain player *coughs coughs* learned that giving up on the biggest tournament of the year to practice for dreamhack doesn't guarantee success. Like it would have changed a thing Well Lilbow should have learned something about PR and not calling TLO a washout caster since TLO kicked him out Karma
That is pretty funny. You could also argue that avoiding the negative publicity and Twitter wars might have made Lilbow more prepared for DH rather than having a big old distraction when the tournament was actually approaching.
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On November 30 2015 16:15 FusionCutter wrote:
Can we please stop spoilering winners of major leagues on the front page of TL? There are other ways to announce the news so it is one click away from being spoiled instead of being so in your face. Not everyone has the chance to be able to see the tournaments live... i almost never watch tournaments live and i don't like being spoiled, but when i know there's a big tournament on i just avoid the front page/general forum thread titles until i get a chance to watch... exactly the same as if you didn't want to know who won a real sports game, you would have to avoid the news and probably your social media if your friends follow sports...
it's like people who scroll down to the comments on a youtube vod and then complain that they got spoiled... like, what? do you have no self control? these are places that literally exist so people can talk about the games, so of course people are going to talk about what happened
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I agree that the PvP series was intense and dramatic, and the fact that they kept it like this for 10 minutes does show their excellent micro skills. It's like watching a boxing match where both fighters keeps landing punches but not enough for a K.O.. Not boring if you are rooting for one of the players, but for the neutral viewer it might feel tiresome after a while.
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On November 30 2015 16:19 Circumstance wrote:
All Koreans were eliminated by other Koreans. There's still work to be done.
Automated macro mechanics, production and micro should make things fair. Or a 2-0 lead in bo5 for the white dudes.
Excellent ideas.
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On November 30 2015 20:58 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 20:41 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 30 2015 20:33 Kaizor wrote:
i think a certain player *coughs coughs* learned that giving up on the biggest tournament of the year to practice for dreamhack doesn't guarantee success. Like it would have changed a thing Well Lilbow should have learned something about PR and not calling TLO a washout caster since TLO kicked him out Karma
Hahaha didn't know that. That's pretty funny indeed.
On November 30 2015 22:37 opisska wrote:This - https://www.reddit.com/r/SpoilerFreeSC - is what you guys are looking for when you want to watch SC2 without getting spoiled by something on the page that leads you too it.
I go to TL for other stuff than watching tournaments 
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