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Correct me if Im wrong but TL, first of all is a "progaming news" webpage, isn't it ? Naturally it spoils results of events because that is what news are about. Imagine eurosport, or some other sport news webpages to hide the results. Nobody would look there. For me it is important to know the result without reading the article, and if i want to know details I open Vods.
Btw, nice tournament anyway. I like the freshness of the new expansion, and wonder where the meta will go. However, i'd like to see a bit more of HotS just because the meta was stablised, and we could see very strong, and solid games ( which could be boring for some people ). Hope the meta will be stabilised soon, despited loving to watch how players try to accustom the wildness of the game
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Personally, I am rather said that Parting fell apart like that in the finals. He was looking like he was going to win it all after the first 4 games.
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On December 01 2015 00:25 achan1058 wrote: Personally, I am rather said that Parting fell apart like that in the finals. He was looking like he was going to win it all after the first 4 games.
Has Parting won a major tournament yet? Nerves seem to have always been his weakness (despite his cocky veneer).
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On December 01 2015 01:41 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 00:25 achan1058 wrote: Personally, I am rather said that Parting fell apart like that in the finals. He was looking like he was going to win it all after the first 4 games. Has Parting won a major tournament yet? Nerves seem to have always been his weakness (despite his cocky veneer). 5 premiers and 8 majors http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PartinG
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Small mistake.
However PartinG wasn’t able to finish the series off after taking a 3-1 lead, allowing Solar to perform a comeback and take his third DreamHack title, putting the Samsung player only two trophies behind top dog TaeJa.
Taeja won 4 Dreamhack tournaments so this would make Solar one trophy behind TaeJa, not two. 4-3 = 1.
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On December 01 2015 01:46 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 01:41 Wuster wrote:On December 01 2015 00:25 achan1058 wrote: Personally, I am rather said that Parting fell apart like that in the finals. He was looking like he was going to win it all after the first 4 games. Has Parting won a major tournament yet? Nerves seem to have always been his weakness (despite his cocky veneer). 5 premiers and 8 majors http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PartinG
Ah ok, although I'm always surprised that some of those premier tournaments aren't considered major (guess cuz they have a high prizepool despite tiny participation). But I won't quibble on that.
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On November 30 2015 23:22 FFW_Rude wrote:I go to TL for other stuff than watching tournaments 
It doesn't matter what you come on TL for. This is a esports news site and team before anything else, it has to stay on top of recent results in a clear fashion (frontpage, like any journal / sports site). You should not come here at all if you expect no being exposed to recent e-sports news.
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is there an update when the replays are released?
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On December 01 2015 04:00 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 23:22 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 30 2015 22:37 opisska wrote:This - https://www.reddit.com/r/SpoilerFreeSC - is what you guys are looking for when you want to watch SC2 without getting spoiled by something on the page that leads you too it. I go to TL for other stuff than watching tournaments  It doesn't matter what you come on TL for. This is a esports news site and team before anything else, it has to stay on top of recent results in a clear fashion (frontpage, like any journal / sports site). You should not come here at all if you expect no being exposed to recent e-sports news.
Not come here at all. Yeah you are right i'm going to do that.
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I think this TL's approach of being "first and foremost a news site" is a bad one. Let's face it, while TL is a nice news site, it's really nothing special in that regard and there are thousands of such site online for each and every insane nonsense people decided to be newsworthy. However as a community forum, TL is pretty unique. The staff need to recognize that and support what's really valuable instead of trying to live their childhood dreams of being a journalist.
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Can really see Solar becoming the new Taeja. I feel like Parting still had the best execution out of anyone, but his knowledge of the matchups lacked, which leads me to believe that LotV will be an expansion suited for Parting in due time.
Games were great and really deserved to be played on a big arena as usual in DH:Winter events. I still think it was a good idea to do a more foreign style tournament, as I was really hyped for this event, it had many foreigners + huge prize pool. It felt like they wanted to put Starcraft back on the map, but they really didn't mirror this hype in the level of production+caster lineup+getting more crowd sound, we heard more sounds from other games than our own crowd.
LotV is great, but Dreamhack is still Dreamhack.
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On December 01 2015 19:39 opisska wrote: I think this TL's approach of being "first and foremost a news site" is a bad one. Let's face it, while TL is a nice news site, it's really nothing special in that regard and there are thousands of such site online for each and every insane nonsense people decided to be newsworthy. However as a community forum, TL is pretty unique. The staff need to recognize that and support what's really valuable instead of trying to live their childhood dreams of being a journalist.
If you can list a single important news site for SC2 aside from TL and Reddit which essentially only has reposts of tweets or TL news, I'll be impressed.
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On December 01 2015 23:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 19:39 opisska wrote: I think this TL's approach of being "first and foremost a news site" is a bad one. Let's face it, while TL is a nice news site, it's really nothing special in that regard and there are thousands of such site online for each and every insane nonsense people decided to be newsworthy. However as a community forum, TL is pretty unique. The staff need to recognize that and support what's really valuable instead of trying to live their childhood dreams of being a journalist. If you can list a single important news site for SC2 aside from TL and Reddit which essentially only has reposts of tweets or TL news, I'll be impressed.
i never said that. i meant that tl is just a "news site for X" and there really isn't that much special in it, because that's what half of the internet is. the community aspect of the site seems more important to me. it is also worth noting that the whole existence of the news is because of the community from which the writers come in the first place.
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On December 02 2015 00:06 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 23:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 01 2015 19:39 opisska wrote: I think this TL's approach of being "first and foremost a news site" is a bad one. Let's face it, while TL is a nice news site, it's really nothing special in that regard and there are thousands of such site online for each and every insane nonsense people decided to be newsworthy. However as a community forum, TL is pretty unique. The staff need to recognize that and support what's really valuable instead of trying to live their childhood dreams of being a journalist. If you can list a single important news site for SC2 aside from TL and Reddit which essentially only has reposts of tweets or TL news, I'll be impressed. i never said that. i meant that tl is just a "news site for X" and there really isn't that much special in it, because that's what half of the internet is. the community aspect of the site seems more important to me. it is also worth noting that the whole existence of the news is because of the community from which the writers come in the first place.
If you wanna see it that way, sure. But you also can't ignore the fact that there is no news site for SC2 aside from TL. So the whole "there are a million news websites about X" argument doesn't apply here. There actually isn't a single one of these websites that covers SC2. Of course we're aware that TL combines a lot of different website features in one, and we'll try to balance them as well as possible, but we have always had news coverage on TL about the biggest events, and that at times includes tournament results.
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On December 02 2015 00:34 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 00:06 opisska wrote:On December 01 2015 23:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 01 2015 19:39 opisska wrote: I think this TL's approach of being "first and foremost a news site" is a bad one. Let's face it, while TL is a nice news site, it's really nothing special in that regard and there are thousands of such site online for each and every insane nonsense people decided to be newsworthy. However as a community forum, TL is pretty unique. The staff need to recognize that and support what's really valuable instead of trying to live their childhood dreams of being a journalist. If you can list a single important news site for SC2 aside from TL and Reddit which essentially only has reposts of tweets or TL news, I'll be impressed. i never said that. i meant that tl is just a "news site for X" and there really isn't that much special in it, because that's what half of the internet is. the community aspect of the site seems more important to me. it is also worth noting that the whole existence of the news is because of the community from which the writers come in the first place. If you wanna see it that way, sure. But you also can't ignore the fact that there is no news site for SC2 aside from TL. SO the whole "there are a million news websites about X" argument doesn't apply here. There actually isn't a single one of these websites that covers SC2. Of course we're aware that TL combines a lot of different website features in one, and we'll try to balance them as well as possible, but we have always had news coverage on TL about the biggest events, and that at times includes tournament results.
... and you had that for several years alongside the "hide spoilers" feature, which you inexplicably removed.
all that i am saying is that tl should think about its priorities. i personally dont care about neither spoilers nor news - if i missed a tourney, i usually just go check the result on liquipedia right away nowadays. but i know that a lot of fine passionate guys do care and i consider many of those to be part of what makes tl what it is.
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like everyone predicted terran still op!
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