EPTFezvez's' Co-op guide and hero review - Page 57
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PolarisSpark
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curufinwe_wins
68 Posts
On September 18 2017 02:38 PolarisSpark wrote: Can anyone actually get a solid 60fps max settings on co-op or is it impossible? I do pretty consistently. It is really a cpu thing. High speed intel chips required (over 4 GHz boost) | ||
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
On September 29 2017 11:47 curufinwe_wins wrote: I do pretty consistently. It is really a cpu thing. High speed intel chips required (over 4 GHz boost) You most certainly don't. My GF games on a 6700HQ/GTX 1060 laptop while I have a 7700K/GTX 1070 desktop. Even with her 6700HQ at stock (3.5GHZ), it is a buttery smooth 60 FPS at the start of matches, but dips down to as low as 15 FPS late game when a lot is going on. I OC'ed my 7700K to a stable 5.1GHZ, and this is probably the best CPU for SC2 within sane limits. With all settings on medium and physics disabled, I was getting 10FPS when I went mass phoenix while my partner went mass lings. Yes you read that right - 10 FPS on a 5.1GHZ 7700K. Admittedly this was an extreme case, but there's not a single consumer-grade CPU out there that can maintain a constant 60FPS for SC2 co-op's late-game, especially when playing swarmy heroes. | ||
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Fezvezfez
58 Posts
I am trying to get in the SC2 AI Workshop, wish me luck guys! | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On October 11 2017 04:58 Fezvezfez wrote: Welp, it seems that I lost the access to my TL account and can't update the guide anymore... Anyways, great people are making new guides, and more in-depth, so that's nice. I am trying to get in the SC2 AI Workshop, wish me luck guys! Ouch, gl!  | ||
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curufinwe_wins
68 Posts
On October 01 2017 18:38 EngrishTeacher wrote: You most certainly don't. My GF games on a 6700HQ/GTX 1060 laptop while I have a 7700K/GTX 1070 desktop. Even with her 6700HQ at stock (3.5GHZ), it is a buttery smooth 60 FPS at the start of matches, but dips down to as low as 15 FPS late game when a lot is going on. I OC'ed my 7700K to a stable 5.1GHZ, and this is probably the best CPU for SC2 within sane limits. With all settings on medium and physics disabled, I was getting 10FPS when I went mass phoenix while my partner went mass lings. Yes you read that right - 10 FPS on a 5.1GHZ 7700K. Admittedly this was an extreme case, but there's not a single consumer-grade CPU out there that can maintain a constant 60FPS for SC2 co-op's late-game, especially when playing swarmy heroes. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/PbnyyfK.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/1Gjf26v.jpg) How much more swarmy do you want it to get to? For the record... I did see exactly two frames below 30fps going through this at game speed (one to 20 and one to 15), but that isn't bad. I do run it completely max settings 1440p. Until the mid-end late game I am never below 60fps (my stock refresh rate is 100 FPS, but using a g-sync panel so not a terrible deal.) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/CmbE5x7.jpg) I'll play a game with stukov in game and throw up a screen for better exactness (although replays in theory put the exact same amount of stress on the game that the original does since all AI and other behavior is off-server). | ||
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curufinwe_wins
68 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/xx1t7Yq.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/v1xUKd9.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/glNxjxT.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/b9K62k7.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/LjC5clQ.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/TF5HkQI.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/z79yxqP.jpg) Yeah... not sure how much more swarmy it can be really.... Minimums for me are in the 30s, normal run even end-game is pretty much holding around 60. For the record, I run a 5820k at 4.5 GHz with two 980tis (obviously SLI doesn't help on this game.) Maybe the dramatic memory bandwidth advantage I have over dual channel systems is what keeps things from getting absolutely awful minimums... I don't have the answers, only my own results. ![[image loading]](http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/sandra-memory1.jpg) | ||
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Icysoul
Canada254 Posts
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Rizare
Canada593 Posts
Doesn't help that there are crash issues because of the patch and game is unplayable because of how random they are. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
Bombers are sweet in a lot of missions; they track units that you directly target, so you can pick off scary shit like casters, and it's not too hard to time it to help clear waves. Reapers become a lot better with the flying upgrade. I dump most of my money into them, but I always get a couple of hellions just for the aerosolized stim and slow. I've been very impressed with widow mines as well, though they can be hard to use in some missions. Not sure about Horner's units. I don't have self-healing for them yet, but I believe that'll make a huge difference. All of them seem good. | ||
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BigRedDog
461 Posts
What composition should I be aiming for? | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
On November 17 2017 07:17 BigRedDog wrote: How does one play hh commander in the map parts and parcel? I'm having a hard time to level up hh in that map. Even with normal difficulty, it seems that I always run out of time before I can get enough parts or kill the hybrid. What composition should I be aiming for? I get mass reapers because they can run around the map quickly. If you have the upgrade for the hellions, get that one and hellions. Wraiths and BCs from Horner. Ignore the first train unless your ally is carrying. Since your ground army is fragile, you will lose a lot of units. However, if you're on top of your macro, you should be fine. | ||
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BigRedDog
461 Posts
On November 17 2017 10:02 29 fps wrote: I get mass reapers because they can run around the map quickly. If you have the upgrade for the hellions, get that one and hellions. Wraiths and BCs from Horner. Ignore the first train unless your ally is carrying. Since your ground army is fragile, you will lose a lot of units. However, if you're on top of your macro, you should be fine. Thanks. I am at level 5 now and reapers can fly and move so much faster. Level 1, they were so slow. Now it is easier to play as Han and Horner. I also learn to build more widow mines and borrow them in my base as defense (with towers and mag mines). | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
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Celial
2602 Posts
technically, nobody built ANYTHING with gas except overseers. and they put a lot of his design decisions into the tanks - interactions with zombies, deep tunnel, the spine crawler, etc etc so it makes sense to soft force people into building tanks | ||
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BigRedDog
461 Posts
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Celial
2602 Posts
Stukov is out for me because I have a potato computer and he lags me to death. | ||
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BigRedDog
461 Posts
On November 22 2017 19:52 Celial wrote: Btw, what is the fastest and easiest commander for leveling mastery levels on regular brutal? Stukov is out for me because I have a potato computer and he lags me to death. If you have a partner to grind with you, you can try lock n load map. Good coordination will get you clear the map Rather quickly | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
On November 22 2017 19:52 Celial wrote: Btw, what is the fastest and easiest commander for leveling mastery levels on regular brutal? Stukov is out for me because I have a potato computer and he lags me to death. Nova is very easy to level and is easy on the computer due to having so few units, and is super strong to boot. I highly recommend her. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
Bombers are tons of fun. Send one out as a scout gain vision of enemy attack waves, then the rest can target a unit for tracking. | ||
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