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GOM switches free quality of GSL back to low - Page 10

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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 10 2015 09:33 GMT
#181
The sad thing is I understand completely that they need to earn money. But I'm not going to watch low. There's too many other things to do/watch that is not low quality.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28463 Posts
June 10 2015 09:34 GMT
#182
I must say I don't like the way they handled this too btw; They could have waited for season 3 to implement.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 10 2015 09:35 GMT
#183
Basket-case of an organisation
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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
June 10 2015 09:36 GMT
#184
Blizzard should stop supporting them financially.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 10 2015 09:38 GMT
#185
Hm, in general i have no problem to pay for stuff ib enjoy.
BUT i feel like GOMTV doesn't produce a product which is worth the money anymore.
It was worth it when we had a vod system which was excellent, when tastosis were on their a game and when there simply was no competitor.
Now we have SSL and Proleague, both are far superior imo.
So yeah, no thanks GOM
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nickbalev
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria241 Posts
June 10 2015 09:40 GMT
#186
So how many subscriptions are they planing to get to fix said financial problems because i dont see many people getting one due to downgrading the stream quality, depending on the deal they have with twitch i doubt they will make that much more money and if getting 200-300$$ more will fix your financial troubles then i dont know what to say. Seeking sponsorships and deals is the way to do it i guess but that is something you need to acquire with your own business skills.Next thing i expect from GSL is to do parteon and indigogo campaigns.It seems that the company is going down the way of the dodo hopefully kespa will keep the game alive till we get the new expansion.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 10 2015 09:41 GMT
#187
On June 10 2015 18:30 Averse wrote:
GSL 2010: Buy the ticket and it will go toward making the show and the stream better.
GSL 2015: Buy the ticket or we will downgrade your experience into oblivion.

It is so annyoing how GSL turned out to be after years of support.

Back in 2010, there was so much potential:
A good player
A VOD collection/gallery that just needed some fine tweaking for more usability (better finding them, tags, direct links in the liquipedia)
a more usable organizer with all the important dates exportable to my google calender or so
some minor tweaks every student can make for them within a week.

5 years later all of that is gone. Sometimes I have to search hard for videos if I ever find them. No real chronological order or whatever. If there wasn't the liquipedia, I wouldn't be able to watch the awesome VODs anymore.

And you could check out the players and player stats back then. Now... I dunno, didn't go to site in years (does it still exist)?
And what would have been awesome is: if you look up a player, see all his ever broadcasted games under his "profile".

BTW quick suggestion: could VODs in the liquipedia also include a 1-5 star rating (depending on the votes in the LR thread) or is this too much work or too much spoiler. Just came into my mind.
MadWorld
Profile Joined September 2014
Canada11 Posts
June 10 2015 09:44 GMT
#188
My potato can support medium :/
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1889 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 09:48:05
June 10 2015 09:45 GMT
#189
On June 10 2015 17:43 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 17:21 Creager wrote:
On June 10 2015 17:13 swissman777 wrote:
Imho, I can only hope that this is a good decision.
It's hard to see the actual financial situation of GOM, so I can't claim whether this is an act of desperation or cunning and arrogant display of entrepreneurship. However, usually every legitimate corporations acts desperate because they are truly desperate. They don't use cheap tricks to cash in unless they are very confident with their customer loyalty (ie youtube and maybe apple). Desperate times call for desperate and panicky measures. If you truly want GSL to continue on with its great production, you should try to pity them and help them.


Or like in the real world let competition decide on who get's to stay and who doesn't. GSL has been very prestigous up to this point, but whoever offers the better product (in this case best quality for smallest investment, which clearly isn't GOM right now) gets the majority of viewership in that department.


Or pay where the quality is due. If you like SSL more, then sure, let the competition rule out the winner. However, no one should be frugal and expect good quality. If GSL can't continue with the support it has, do you think that SSL can? SSL may be offering more in terms of higher free resolution stream, but how long could it last before SSL runs out of their initial revenue made to attract customers like it is for every new entreprises?

Moreover, you must also know that once GSL goes out, a monopoly both in individual and team leagues is a terrible news for us. Spotv would then have the freedom to do whatever it pleases to a large extent.


Well, as a continuous supporter/subscriber of GSL content throughout the years I remember times where GSL had the monopoly in korean SC2 and even back then stream quality (even for ticket holders) has been lower than that of comparable (western) content producers while still having ads.
We were complaining back then, the adjustments GOM did was moving to a new studio, cut GSTL, then killing off their own website with a truly priceworthy VOD system to cut costs and now chopping down quality again for possible interested audiences.

I really don't see the viewers' lack of support at fault here, as you say, I pay for quality as it's due, with GSL pulling that move again, how can I justify further financial support when I receive less and less.

We survived during the GSL-only era, we'll surely survive without GSL.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
June 10 2015 09:46 GMT
#190
What a dirtbag move, doing it mid season. If they actually cared about their twitch viewer stream base, they'd at least do it after this season of Code S is over, but nope.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 10 2015 09:47 GMT
#191
Man
Medium was good enough so that I could drop by for the occasional game, with Low I just won't watch GSL anymore I guess. I don't want to sound too dramatic but that's the end of an era for me, because it seems they won't go back on this :/
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
June 10 2015 09:49 GMT
#192
I am not going to watch GSL on low and I am not going to pay for any season pass. In the days of BW the korean leagues were better watchable than in 2015 and thats a long time ago.

If you don't change your business model you will have to deal with a smaller market share outside of Korea.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 10 2015 09:56 GMT
#193
Sad times
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 10 2015 09:58 GMT
#194
On June 10 2015 18:46 yoshi245 wrote:
What a dirtbag move, doing it mid season. If they actually cared about their twitch viewer stream base, they'd at least do it after this season of Code S is over, but nope.

yeah doing it mid-season was a weird move.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 10 2015 09:58 GMT
#195
On June 10 2015 18:46 yoshi245 wrote:
What a dirtbag move, doing it mid season. If they actually cared about their twitch viewer stream base, they'd at least do it after this season of Code S is over, but nope.


Why would they care about a leeching viewer base that is impossible to monetize? The adblock numbers are through the roof in esports. They don't help keeping the thing afloat. All that matters is how many that subscribe. And no, bringing new viewers to sc2 isn't a thing at this point.
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
June 10 2015 09:58 GMT
#196
That's certainly not a good move to retain viewership.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 10 2015 10:02 GMT
#197
On June 10 2015 18:58 Superouman wrote:
That's certainly not a good move to retain viewership.

well they don't get mine. I just WANTED to switch in, but it seems to not be working.
And I should pay for that? Yeah sure.
acccky1
Profile Joined June 2015
37 Posts
June 10 2015 10:06 GMT
#198
this season gsl feels like it had even less viewers then last season with medium paywall.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 10:07:50
June 10 2015 10:07 GMT
#199
I tune in for Tastosis, GOM could put it to 'mobile' quality and I'll be happy.
*burp*
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 10 2015 10:09 GMT
#200
On June 10 2015 18:58 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 18:46 yoshi245 wrote:
What a dirtbag move, doing it mid season. If they actually cared about their twitch viewer stream base, they'd at least do it after this season of Code S is over, but nope.


Why would they care about a leeching viewer base that is impossible to monetize? The adblock numbers are through the roof in esports. They don't help keeping the thing afloat. All that matters is how many that subscribe. And no, bringing new viewers to sc2 isn't a thing at this point.

well this is something of blizzards concern.
Designing a game that is pure frustration in a lot of cases is blizzards fault. I know a lot of MP games, and I never felt so helpless after 1000s of hours of learning and investment, for instance in situations you just lead the game for the whole time and then you just get protossed, zerged or terraned. There have been 100s of Ideas how to prevent that, but Blizzard doesn't really want to listen.
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