• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:06
CET 23:06
KST 07:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1070 users

HotS Balance Update - April 9

Forum Index > SC2 General
339 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 15 16 17 Next All
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 20:21:31
April 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#1
[image loading]

In recent months, we’ve been testing the biggest balance changes yet for StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm. After gathering and reviewing your feedback from the three separate Balance Test Maps that explored these changes, we are ready to move forward with a new balance update. You can expect to see the following adjustments applied to Heart of the Swarm multiplayer today.

Zerg

Swarm Host
  • Cost modified from 200 Minerals and 100 Vespene to 100 Minerals and 200 Vespene
  • Supply cost increased from 3 to 4
  • Movement speed increased from 2.25 to 2.95
  • Swarm Hosts now require the Burrow research in order to burrow
  • Swarm Hosts no longer collide with Locusts

Spawn Locusts – This ability has been reworked
  • Auto-cast removed, Spawn Locusts must now be manually cast.
  • Spawn Locusts cooldown increased from 25 seconds to 60 seconds
  • Casting Spawn Locusts no longer requires a Swarm Host to be burrowed

Locust
  • Weapon speed increased from .8 to .6
  • Locust duration increased from 15 seconds (+10 seconds with Enduring Locusts) to 25 seconds

Infestation Pit
  • Enduring Locusts – This upgrade has been removed
  • New upgrade: Flying Locusts - Allows Locusts spawned by Swarm Hosts to fly. Flying Locusts can use Swoop to land and attack
  • Requires Lair
  • Cost is 200 Minerals, 200 Vespene, 160 seconds
  • Allows Locusts spawned by Swarm Hosts to fly. Flying Locusts can use Swoop to land and attack
  • Swoop: Orders the Locust to land at the targeted location, allowing it to attack

Viper
  • Blinding Cloud range increased from 10 to 11


Terran

Raven
  • Point Defense Drone duration decreased from 180 seconds to 20 seconds


Protoss

Tempest
  • Bonus damage versus massive air units decreased from +50 damage to +14 damage.


Source
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 19:22:02
April 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#2
Poll: Opinion on Swarm Host/Locust Changes?

Approve (379)
 
61%

Disapprove (178)
 
29%

Unsure/No opinion (61)
 
10%

618 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on Swarm Host/Locust Changes?

(Vote): Approve
(Vote): Disapprove
(Vote): Unsure/No opinion


Poll: Opinion on Viper Changes?

Approve (261)
 
45%

Disapprove (229)
 
40%

Unsure/No opinion (85)
 
15%

575 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on Viper Changes?

(Vote): Approve
(Vote): Disapprove
(Vote): Unsure/No opinion


Poll: Opinion on Raven Changes?

Approve (381)
 
66%

Disapprove (177)
 
30%

Unsure/No opinion (23)
 
4%

581 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on Raven Changes?

(Vote): Approve
(Vote): Disapprove
(Vote): Unsure/No opinion


Poll: Opinion on Tempest Changes?

Approve (284)
 
51%

Disapprove (191)
 
35%

Unsure/No opinion (78)
 
14%

553 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on Tempest Changes?

(Vote): Approve
(Vote): Disapprove
(Vote): Unsure/No opinion


Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 19:25:32
April 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#3
Bye, awesome PvP late game. Welcome back mass colossi PvP.

Raven

Point Defense Drone duration decreased from 180 seconds to 20 seconds


As if mech wasn't bad enough. :D
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 19:22:49
April 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#4
RIP Glorious, exciting and skillful late-game ZvP, 2013-2015. I'll miss you.
and there's a random center tag at the top of the OP Templar sniped
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 19:23:22
April 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#5
On April 10 2015 04:22 OtherWorld wrote:
RIP Glorious, exciting and skillful late-game ZvP, 2013-2015. I'll miss you.
and there's a random center tag at the top of the OP Templar sniped

I made the OP in two minutes, give me a break
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 09 2015 19:25 GMT
#6
I guess they always need a "queen-patch" a year before the next expansion. Let's see if they are willing to balance this time or let the game rot like 2012.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 09 2015 19:26 GMT
#7
damn it's out, didn't realize the PDD duration change was so huge.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
April 09 2015 19:26 GMT
#8
Swarm Hosts no longer collide with Locusts

This is the only thing I disagree with. I was already getting my passion back to go on the ladder, this patch furthers that
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
April 09 2015 19:29 GMT
#9
Looking forward to seeing flying swarm hosts next
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
April 09 2015 19:31 GMT
#10
i guess this helps us ease into lotv for the new units. still dont approve of anything regarding swarm hosts but beating a dead horse
terrible, terrible, damage
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
April 09 2015 19:32 GMT
#11
On April 10 2015 04:26 Heyoka wrote:
damn it's out, didn't realize the PDD duration change was so huge.


It was well needed though.
Putting down PDDs infinitely with a 3 minute duration was way out of whack, it basically made a terran army completely invulnerable.
www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
April 09 2015 19:32 GMT
#12
wtf that Viper buff is HUGE
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 09 2015 19:32 GMT
#13
On April 10 2015 04:29 BaneRiders wrote:
Looking forward to seeing flying swarm hosts next

I want ground-based Brood Lords too d:
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
April 09 2015 19:34 GMT
#14
Well, it's still an end of an era.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 09 2015 19:34 GMT
#15
Poll: Best name for the patch?

Firekanin Patch (64)
 
42%

Firecake Patch (31)
 
21%

HotS April 9 Patch (26)
 
17%

Lillecakin Patch (22)
 
15%

Lillekanin Patch (8)
 
5%

151 total votes

Your vote: Best name for the patch?

(Vote): HotS April 9 Patch
(Vote): Lillecakin Patch
(Vote): Firekanin Patch
(Vote): Firecake Patch
(Vote): Lillekanin Patch


Moderator
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
April 09 2015 19:37 GMT
#16
Might as well remove the SH completely, and tell Zerg players, "We don't care about your inability to combat death-ball armies; all-in, or GG."
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 09 2015 19:37 GMT
#17
It's the end of an era!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 09 2015 19:37 GMT
#18
I can't imagine that we are going to have well-balanced months ahead of us. The game was in a nice state. But at least HotS games are going to be more exciting for a bit as everyone wants to observe the outcome of this major patch.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 09 2015 19:40 GMT
#19
Probably going to be the last major balance patch for the next 6 months/until LotV release. Which is a shame, because this will absolutely destroy late-game ZvP. Zerg will have to end the game with the first push or just die to deathball.
gdarky
Profile Joined August 2014
Latvia78 Posts
April 09 2015 19:41 GMT
#20
Will GSL & SSL use old version of SC2?
1998-2003 ex-sc player under nickname SoL.Dark.wS
1 2 3 4 5 15 16 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
Bracket - LB Quarterfinals
StRyKeR vs eOnzErG
Bonyth vs Sziky
ZZZero.O366
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 435
IndyStarCraft 212
ProTech148
CosmosSc2 90
elazer 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1434
ZZZero.O 366
Shuttle 284
Dewaltoss 121
Hyun 67
910 14
HiyA 10
Dota 2
Dendi1479
NeuroSwarm28
syndereN0
Counter-Strike
fl0m1183
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor326
Other Games
Grubby4658
FrodaN2728
B2W.Neo811
Beastyqt790
mouzStarbuck270
Liquid`Hasu187
ArmadaUGS108
XaKoH 91
Mew2King36
Chillindude31
PiLiPiLi24
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1373
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta24
• Reevou 16
• Adnapsc2 12
• RyuSc2 4
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21127
Other Games
• imaqtpie1936
• Scarra304
• Shiphtur216
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 54m
Wardi Open
13h 54m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 54m
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.