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ST-Yoe forced to forfeit in SPL Round 1 Playoffs - Page 5

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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
February 09 2015 12:42 GMT
#81
Yeah, we all know the good old KeSPA. No surprise at all.
The funny thing is that ST is apologizing... Why ? It's not like they did something wrong. The situation on the road was bad and they couldn't make it. Can't see what is their fault. Instead of apologizing they should confront KeSPA and ask for rescheduling of the match.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 12:44:40
February 09 2015 12:43 GMT
#82
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
February 09 2015 12:47 GMT
#83
In a vacuum I don't really have a problem with this, although it does seem unneccessarily strict by KeSPA to punish a team for not being exactly half an hour EARLY. However, the bias KeSPA has shown towards 'traditional' KeSPA teams in these situations is totally unacceptable.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 09 2015 12:52 GMT
#84
kespa to scared that ST would win it all, even using their weather control :p . No confidence in their teams. But really sucks for ST-Yoe.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 09 2015 12:56 GMT
#85
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what happened you say?
Michael Probu
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2015 13:00 GMT
#86
As I said in the other thread: go fuck yourselves Kespa

This is the god damn playoffs
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Naikonz
Profile Joined October 2014
Romania65 Posts
February 09 2015 13:00 GMT
#87
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

Of course it's your fault if you get late, but you don't get fired if you arrive a little late. Especially if your team agrees to wait for you. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2015 13:01 GMT
#88
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

If you read Wax's tweet in the OP it seems that they were literally trapped and unable to move. Dunno how you foresee that
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jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
February 09 2015 13:07 GMT
#89
Yes, bend the rules only when it benefits me and my interests!! After all, this is e-sports and we should be able to do whatever we please, because we demand it!

Never mind the fact that it is supposed to be a live broadcast. One team managed to make it in time, all the spectators were there in time, but let's blame the traffic and snow because we are the e-sports mob.

Stupidity on this forum always seems to reach a new height.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
February 09 2015 13:09 GMT
#90
On February 09 2015 22:01 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

If you read Wax's tweet in the OP it seems that they were literally trapped and unable to move. Dunno how you foresee that


Nothing short of the entire tunnel collapsing would block the Korean traffic from moving completely. I don't buy this at all, and I've lived here for the past 8 years driving all over the place. Besides, the navigation system on this country is probably the top of the line.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2015 13:10 GMT
#91
On February 09 2015 22:07 jellyjello wrote:
Yes, bend the rules only when it benefits me and my interests!! After all, this is e-sports and we should be able to do whatever we please, because we demand it!

Never mind the fact that it is supposed to be a live broadcast. One team managed to make it in time, all the spectators were there in time, but let's blame the traffic and snow because we are the e-sports mob.

Stupidity on this forum always seems to reach a new height.

Yes because live esports events have never been delayed for anything or anyone!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 13:10:42
February 09 2015 13:10 GMT
#92
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

That's pretty stupid and I'm glad that this isn't handled like that in my countries.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
February 09 2015 13:11 GMT
#93
On February 09 2015 22:09 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 22:01 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

If you read Wax's tweet in the OP it seems that they were literally trapped and unable to move. Dunno how you foresee that


Nothing short of the entire tunnel collapsing would block the Korean traffic from moving completely. I don't buy this at all, and I've lived here for the past 8 years driving all over the place. Besides, the navigation system on this country is probably the top of the line.

It's not possible to get stuck in traffic in Korea? Wow.. Oo
I Protoss winner, could it be?
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
February 09 2015 13:15 GMT
#94
On February 09 2015 22:10 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 22:07 jellyjello wrote:
Yes, bend the rules only when it benefits me and my interests!! After all, this is e-sports and we should be able to do whatever we please, because we demand it!

Never mind the fact that it is supposed to be a live broadcast. One team managed to make it in time, all the spectators were there in time, but let's blame the traffic and snow because we are the e-sports mob.

Stupidity on this forum always seems to reach a new height.

Yes because live esports events have never been delayed for anything or anyone!


You are right, so let's delay the game until the delinquent team shows up - could be today or tomorrow, but delay it at all costs because we could careless about everything else but to watch these two teams duke it out. Nothing could be more important, right?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 13:18:52
February 09 2015 13:16 GMT
#95
On February 09 2015 22:01 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

If you read Wax's tweet in the OP it seems that they were literally trapped and unable to move. Dunno how you foresee that

And that matters why exactly?
Fact is one team didn't show up in time. WHY isn't really important at all.
I understand that people here wanted to see the games and are pissed cause it didn't happen, but following the schedule is not "a stupid rule".
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37108 Posts
February 09 2015 13:18 GMT
#96
SC2 February is off to a beautiful start...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2015 13:20 GMT
#97
On February 09 2015 22:15 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 22:10 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 09 2015 22:07 jellyjello wrote:
Yes, bend the rules only when it benefits me and my interests!! After all, this is e-sports and we should be able to do whatever we please, because we demand it!

Never mind the fact that it is supposed to be a live broadcast. One team managed to make it in time, all the spectators were there in time, but let's blame the traffic and snow because we are the e-sports mob.

Stupidity on this forum always seems to reach a new height.

Yes because live esports events have never been delayed for anything or anyone!


You are right, so let's delay the game until the delinquent team shows up - could be today or tomorrow, but delay it at all costs because we could careless about everything else but to watch these two teams duke it out. Nothing could be more important, right?

Sorry but you aren't making much sense. You're acting like some catastrophe would have befallen the event had they waited.

Believe me I would be all for a system where there were rolling match forfeits. For example I think an 0-1 deficit for being half an hour late would have been reasonable with possible increases if they were even later. This is just stupid. It hurts the competition. Most importantly it hurts the spectators who showed up and didn't get to see any games
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SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
February 09 2015 13:21 GMT
#98
Are u kidding me? is it really possible? is there any other solution possible?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2015 13:21 GMT
#99
On February 09 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 22:01 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

If you read Wax's tweet in the OP it seems that they were literally trapped and unable to move. Dunno how you foresee that

And that matters why exactly?
Fact is one team didn't show up in time. WHY isn't really important at all.
I understand that people here wanted to see the games and are pissed cause it didn't happen, but following the schedule is not "a stupid rule".

So you're saying if someone is late the circumstances that make them late do not matter AT ALL

Sweet Christ this is stupid
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 13:24:22
February 09 2015 13:23 GMT
#100
On February 09 2015 22:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 22:01 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:39 Naikonz wrote:
On February 09 2015 21:37 sparklyresidue wrote:
Guys it's a TV broadcast, it's pretty reasonable in the adult world to expect people to arrive within a certain time frame. Sorry if that rustles anyone's jimmies, I wanted to see the match too, but this is pretty sensible.

Can't set a precedent where it's okay to be late, even if it's your favorite Tawainese/Korean hybrid team led by Bomber himself.


This isn't like they got drunk and passed out on the subway. It was an accident. An exceptional event.

If I'm late to work because of traffic, it's still my fault, not the road's.

edit: Timely example. it's snowing here today, so I'm leaving an extra half hour early to make sure I get to work on time or early.

If you read Wax's tweet in the OP it seems that they were literally trapped and unable to move. Dunno how you foresee that

And that matters why exactly?
Fact is one team didn't show up in time. WHY isn't really important at all.
I understand that people here wanted to see the games and are pissed cause it didn't happen, but following the schedule is not "a stupid rule".


It matters because "integrity of competition" isn't a measurable fact, it's a subjective perception. And right now, the majority of viewers - not to mention flabbergasted Korean players, if their tweets are any indication - subjectively perceive the integrity of the playoffs to have been compromised.

Whether KeSPA will care is up to them.
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