EPTdamn StartaleYoe was doing so good as well.... can't believe this shit
ST-Yoe forced to forfeit in SPL Round 1 Playoffs - Page 3
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30545 Posts
damn StartaleYoe was doing so good as well.... can't believe this shit | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
life knew it was a fluke and doesn't dare being in the same room with Maru. | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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Swisslink
2949 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote: Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh. But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all. The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late. A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked? And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do? I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo . | ||
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Ocean_1004
Korea (South)37 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:32 Swisslink wrote: A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked? And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do? I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo . There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10645 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote: There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans. Well we don't know the details, but I don't think it would have been a big issue to wait until 1h/1h30, or even better to give like 1 map to JAGW each 30 minutes, like it happened in the past. Saying that it's ST's fault is true, but it is not ST's fault alone. When you're trapped in a tunnel with a car accident there is not much you can do. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote: There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans. Of course you can blame kespa. There are solutions to such problems like giving Jinair a mapwin or something like that. Almost every tournament rules have a passus which includes something like: "The tournament rules can be changed or expanded by the organisation at any point". This is for a reason: sometimes rules don't match reality so the fairer solution in some cases can be breaking the rules. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote: i'm pretty sure that in any major competitive sport if an entire team's airplane were delayed the team wouldn't be DQed for not showing up. how is a traffic problem different? are they just supposed to, like, floor it? start doing sick jumps over the other cars? how early do they have to leave to be considered "responsible"? 30 minutes early? 2 hours early? a day early? sometimes shit actually does just happen, man. There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans. | ||
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Swisslink
2949 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote: There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans. Other organisations have scheduling issues as well. Still there were re-scheduled matches in soccer, for example, if one of the team couldn't arrive in time because of an incident that wasn't their fault. Do you really think a champions league game would be cancelled, if one of the teams couldn't be there in time, because some storm prevented their plane to start? As far as I know something like that even happened to Barcelona a few years back. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23700 Posts
Disappointing doesn't cover it, ST-Yoe have got their shit together this round and I was looking forward to seeing what they could have done in the Playoffs | ||
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JulDraGoN
Sweden370 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:51 JulDraGoN wrote: This is an outrage, does this mean I am not getting my Liquibet points? I gotta say this question has still not be answered, and it is very important d: | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23700 Posts
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Swisslink
2949 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:43 brickrd wrote: i'm pretty sure that in any major competitive sport if an entire team's airplane were delayed the team wouldn't be DQed for not showing up. how is a traffic problem different? are they just supposed to, like, floor it? start doing sick jumps over the other cars? how early do they have to leave to be considered "responsible"? 30 minutes early? 2 hours early? a day early? sometimes shit actually does just happen, man. I'd go even further and say that ever tournament rule should have a passus that deals exactly with a situation like this. And DQ shouldn't be the way to do it. | ||
Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
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Penev
28440 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote: Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh. But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all. The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late. The weren't stuck behind the same traffic caused by an accident in a tunnel.. :-S | ||
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[BSP]Kain
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