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ST-Yoe forced to forfeit in SPL Round 1 Playoffs - Page 3

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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 11:33:12
February 09 2015 11:25 GMT
#41
OMFG no what no

damn StartaleYoe was doing so good as well.... can't believe this shit
Neosteel Enthusiast
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 09 2015 11:27 GMT
#42
REKT NOOBS
life knew it was a fluke and doesn't dare being in the same room with Maru.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
February 09 2015 11:29 GMT
#43
I don't understand what the problem would be by starting like 30 minutes later or so...
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
February 09 2015 11:32 GMT
#44
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.


A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked?

And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do?

I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo .
Ocean_1004
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Korea (South)37 Posts
February 09 2015 11:34 GMT
#45
OMG
HerO is my hero
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 09 2015 11:35 GMT
#46
On February 09 2015 20:32 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.


A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked?

And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do?

I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo .

There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
February 09 2015 11:38 GMT
#47
New Pro League Sponsor....BitByBit's snow plowing business...
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 09 2015 11:41 GMT
#48
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:32 Swisslink wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.


A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked?

And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do?

I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo .

There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans.

Well we don't know the details, but I don't think it would have been a big issue to wait until 1h/1h30, or even better to give like 1 map to JAGW each 30 minutes, like it happened in the past. Saying that it's ST's fault is true, but it is not ST's fault alone. When you're trapped in a tunnel with a car accident there is not much you can do.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 09 2015 11:42 GMT
#49
Looks like a snow news day!

User was warned for this post
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
February 09 2015 11:42 GMT
#50
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:32 Swisslink wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.


A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked?

And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do?

I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo .

There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans.

Of course you can blame kespa. There are solutions to such problems like giving Jinair a mapwin or something like that. Almost every tournament rules have a passus which includes something like: "The tournament rules can be changed or expanded by the organisation at any point". This is for a reason: sometimes rules don't match reality so the fairer solution in some cases can be breaking the rules.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 09 2015 11:43 GMT
#51
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:32 Swisslink wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.


A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked?

And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do?

I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo .

There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans.
i'm pretty sure that in any major competitive sport if an entire team's airplane were delayed the team wouldn't be DQed for not showing up. how is a traffic problem different? are they just supposed to, like, floor it? start doing sick jumps over the other cars? how early do they have to leave to be considered "responsible"? 30 minutes early? 2 hours early? a day early? sometimes shit actually does just happen, man.
TL+ Member
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 11:49:00
February 09 2015 11:45 GMT
#52
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:32 Swisslink wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.


A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked?

And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do?

I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo .

There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans.


Other organisations have scheduling issues as well. Still there were re-scheduled matches in soccer, for example, if one of the team couldn't arrive in time because of an incident that wasn't their fault.
Do you really think a champions league game would be cancelled, if one of the teams couldn't be there in time, because some storm prevented their plane to start?
As far as I know something like that even happened to Barcelona a few years back.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26193 Posts
February 09 2015 11:51 GMT
#53
Bizarre, I don't see how starting with a relatively minor delay is less preferable than cancelling an entire series.

Disappointing doesn't cover it, ST-Yoe have got their shit together this round and I was looking forward to seeing what they could have done in the Playoffs
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JulDraGoN
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Sweden370 Posts
February 09 2015 11:51 GMT
#54
This is an outrage, does this mean I am not getting my Liquibet points?
I mean nobody wants to admit they eat 9 cans of ravioli, but I did and I'm ashamed of myself. The first can doesn't count and then you get to the second, and the third. The fourth and fifth I think I burnt with the blow torch and I just kept eating.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 09 2015 11:52 GMT
#55
On February 09 2015 20:51 JulDraGoN wrote:
This is an outrage, does this mean I am not getting my Liquibet points?

I gotta say this question has still not be answered, and it is very important d:
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26193 Posts
February 09 2015 11:52 GMT
#56
Incidentally what is the feeling on the ground in Korea? The limited Tweets I've seen are from figures within eSports who understandably might be loathe to criticise Kespa.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
February 09 2015 11:56 GMT
#57
On February 09 2015 20:43 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:35 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:32 Swisslink wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.


A car accident normally doesn't affect everyone. Maybe JAGW didn't have to drive through that tunnel that was blocked?

And ofc ST did apologize and accepted the def-loss. What else should they do?

I just think basically EVERY organisatio in every field accepts a traffic accident as an excuse - beside Kespa. And kespa accepts delays as well - as long as it affects a kespa-team. That's the main issue here, imo .

There's sceduling to take into account. In the end, it is STs responsibility to be on time. If for whatever reason they can't and are greatly delayed (whatever time they usually take as margin plus half an hour), well, it's sad, but you can't blame JAGW or Kespa for that. In fact, nobody does but some angry fans.
i'm pretty sure that in any major competitive sport if an entire team's airplane were delayed the team wouldn't be DQed for not showing up. how is a traffic problem different? are they just supposed to, like, floor it? start doing sick jumps over the other cars? how early do they have to leave to be considered "responsible"? 30 minutes early? 2 hours early? a day early? sometimes shit actually does just happen, man.


I'd go even further and say that ever tournament rule should have a passus that deals exactly with a situation like this. And DQ shouldn't be the way to do it.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
February 09 2015 11:58 GMT
#58
Snow got in the way? Psh, amateurs
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
February 09 2015 12:00 GMT
#59
On February 09 2015 20:24 _TMT_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 09 2015 20:15 _TMT_ wrote:
Disappointed. But, well, KR fans at the studio deserve an apology. Blame yourself, ST.


How in hell is this ST fault? There was a car accident god dammit!


Well, ST did apologize, so I don't want to be harsh.

But that's their responsibility to have a B plan, like maybe ... start 1 hour earlier. It's Asian traffic, after all.

The thing is JAGW was still there to claim the bye. They did not arrive late.

The weren't stuck behind the same traffic caused by an accident in a tunnel.. :-S
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[BSP]Kain
Profile Joined May 2014
119 Posts
February 09 2015 12:01 GMT
#60
Stupid blizzard. :/
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