EPTOn January 12 2015 09:16 rotta wrote:
New maps are live in EU!
New maps are live in EU!
On ladder?
New WCS 2015 Season 1 maps - Page 14
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On ladder? | ||
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rotta
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Yes. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Sweet, you'd think there'd be a blog post or something by blizzard about it though | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13408 Posts
On January 12 2015 09:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Sweet, you'd think there'd be a blog post or something by blizzard about it though Its the new season date so ofc the maps start? | ||
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deth
Australia1757 Posts
Secret Spring - Rush distance is so incredibly short. Zerg are going to have the hardest time holding any 3rd base. Terran pushes with mines down the middle and fortifying push positions is super strong, and protoss can hold chokes like there's no tomorrow. Blink and reapers are ridiculous. The whole map feels like amateur hour. Vaani Research Station - Rush distance is now so incredibly long. Map architecture is wide open, with not much to write home about. Its a weird, safe, bland map which leaves me puzzled as to what they're trying to achieve with it. Inferno Pools - Horizontal spawns need to go. Nightmare to play TvT on because of backdoor sieges, and vertical spawns mean that its hard for any race to hold a 3rd base, although terran likely have a reasonable time with the island. Gold bases (like on foxtrot) are ridiculously hard to hold. Its a massive map designed for macro (according to blizzard) but imbalanced spawn positions will make it incredibly hard to actually play macro games. Meanwhile we have great community maps, better maps in the GSL pool and talented map makers being ignored. Blizzard have a philosophy for ladder play and map design that isn't working. Community sentiment is mostly negative - hopefully they listen and we have changes this season and a big overhaul for the next. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
 oh god, they are even worse than they looked like. Oh fuck, this is so bad. | ||
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neptunusfisk
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EBj8A9F.png) | ||
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duckk
United States622 Posts
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jYwO7yV.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/e3zth3i.jpg) well this will be fun | ||
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sage_francis
France1823 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8159 Posts
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
http://imgur.com/a/fPlh9 personal thoughts as mapmaker and high ranked teams player below + Show Spoiler + wolfe industries compound size 174x172 overal not to bad, but the huge size of the main/nat setup will probably make this an extreme pain to play macro. desert refuge size 158x188 very bright lighting, not pleasant to play on. seems to be a step in the right direction, distance from main to nat will make early oracles/drops and later on mutalisks an absolute pest to deal with. normal bases in the middle are a bit questionable and seem to be harder to take than the golds. aftermath size 194x188 every single main is cannonrushable from the low ground, if you played teams in higher ranks, you know exactly just how broken this is. giant chasm shielding the nats from the mid make the corner bases impossible to take without risking losing the main, it's about as easy for the attacker to move around it as it is for the defender. hills of peshkov size 140x188 again super bright and not pleasant to play on. while there seem to be little issues, you're right in the face of your opponent and games will probably shorter than usual. blackfrost extraction size 230x172 super laggy, this probably has to do with the extreme ammount of weather doodads. 2/4 mains cannonrushable from low ground again the giant chasm will make sure only 2/4 people on your team will ever secure a natural without losing your main base scoria reactor size 204x196 1/4 mains cannonrushable from low ground later expands seem to be in a somewhat awkward spot, but outside of that should actualy be one of the better maps, only problem might be its size. | ||
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Dingodile
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
We have been saying since 2010 let the pro's test the maps before you put them on ladder and let other people make the maps because 90% of blizzard maps are terrible. | ||
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
On January 12 2015 21:06 Za7oX wrote: Blizzard don't give a fuck about SC. We have been saying since 2010 let the pro's test the maps before you put them on ladder and let other people make the maps because 90% of blizzard maps are terrible. suprisingly enough 4 years later there are still no improvents GJ blizz, maybe ©Soon™? | ||
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algue
France1436 Posts
On January 12 2015 21:06 Za7oX wrote: Blizzard don't give a fuck about SC. We have been saying since 2010 let the pro's test the maps before you put them on ladder and let other people make the maps because 90% of blizzard maps are terrible. Blizzard maps are so terrible than every tournament use them and pros never really bothered complaining about them (except when the map was terribly broken like Daedalus point). You are just hating on blizzard because it's cool. I feel like a lot of people overestimate how the maps impact the game. Sure some are aweful/imbalanced, some are correct and some are good but a map won't make the game suddenly awesome and save #esports. | ||
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Phaenoman
568 Posts
On January 12 2015 21:32 algue wrote: Blizzard maps are so terrible than every tournament use them and pros never really bothered complaining about them (except when the map was terribly broken like Daedalus point). You are just hating on blizzard because it's cool. I feel like a lot of people overestimate how the maps impact the game. Sure some are aweful/imbalanced, some are correct and some are good but a map won't make the game suddenly awesome and save #esports. It's not about making the game awesome and save #esports. That's for the game design to take care of. But the maps are what we can change currently. And Blizzard's maps are boring, bad or both at the same time. U as a map maker should have noticed that by now. | ||
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
On January 12 2015 21:32 algue wrote: Blizzard maps are so terrible than every tournament use them and pros never really bothered complaining about them (except when the map was terribly broken like Daedalus point). You are just hating on blizzard because it's cool. the fact tournament organizers and pros don't care about maps doesn't mean blizzard cares. | ||
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