• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:12
CET 12:12
KST 20:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1037 users

New WCS 2015 Season 1 maps - Page 10

Forum Index > SC2 General
374 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 19 Next All
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
December 19 2014 12:25 GMT
#181
On December 19 2014 20:49 KatatoniK wrote:
Out of all the old maps they keep Deadwing, Catellena and Foxtrot? Really. Overgrowth and KSS were really good maps from the current pool. Why can't we keep them and have an extra community map.

Feeling a little eurgh over this pool but will at least give the new maps a chance before I grab my pitchfork.


I don't think it had anything to do with balance, but rather kicking out the maps that were 9 months old.
"Not you."
Edowyth
Profile Joined October 2010
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 12:28:04
December 19 2014 12:26 GMT
#182
On December 19 2014 21:07 Supersamu wrote:
I think it would be funny if there was a mixture between destructible rocks and collapsible towers (or whatever they are called).

A: Destructible rocks: The path is 2x wide and there is a x wide destructible rock, the other x is undestructible terrain you cannot pass. If the destructible rocks get destroyed, the path gets transformed into B

B: Collapsible tower: The path is 2x wide and there is a x wide open terrain and a x wide collapsible tower right next to it. If the collapsible tower gets destroyed, the path gets transformed into A.

Obviously it doesn't make thematic sense with the collapsible tower, but I think it would be funny if Player Y constantly closes the path and Player Z constantly wants to open the path. I don't know if that makes sense balance-wise, but I think David Kim would like that idea from what I heard so far.


You're essentially asking for a collapsible tower that rebuilds the tower bit a few seconds after dropping on the path. Self-renewing collapsible towers, then.

Self-renewing collapsible towers would be cool for some niche positions on maps (opening up a new attack path to a third / a back-door to a main / etc) and open up some diversity for map makers.

Why not?

On December 19 2014 21:25 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 20:49 KatatoniK wrote:
Out of all the old maps they keep Deadwing, Catellena and Foxtrot? Really. Overgrowth and KSS were really good maps from the current pool. Why can't we keep them and have an extra community map.

Feeling a little eurgh over this pool but will at least give the new maps a chance before I grab my pitchfork.


I don't think it had anything to do with balance, but rather kicking out the maps that were 9 months old.


Or maybe they just chose alphabetically.
"Q. How do I check a valid [e-]mail address? A. You can't, at least, not in real time. Bummer, eh?" /r/programming
Of course, you could just send them a validation email.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
December 19 2014 12:28 GMT
#183
--- Nuked ---
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
December 19 2014 12:32 GMT
#184
On December 19 2014 19:15 Charoisaur wrote:
please stop the blizzard bashing until you have properly tested the new maps.
if you look at them first they seem to be quite weird but maybe they will play out very well.
when i first saw KSS or merry go round i also thought they would be terrible but now everybody is sad they are gone.

also i agree with blizzards decision to remove overgrowth, KSS and merry go round. Sure they are one of the best maps ever created but they are just to old. Better keep the map pool fresh instead of keeping the good maps forever.


Who's sad that MGR is gone?
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
December 19 2014 12:39 GMT
#185
As a protoss player, when new maps are released I always like to find cannon rush spots. The most imba cannon rush spot I found so far is on Expedition Lost: http://i.imgur.com/XpxmFpJ.jpg

You only need 2 pylons, and your probe can jump through the pylons when building the cannon. Also this cannon rush spot covers the natural ramp, so zerg can't send drones out to get extra expansions or send lings to be aggressive. The only positive news I can tell to zerg players is that you can break the rocks in your main instead of breaking through the cannons to secure an expansion, that's also a reason why I think it's not worth adding more than 2 cannons to contain the zerg natural here.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 13:02:29
December 19 2014 13:00 GMT
#186
jesus fucking christ did they just remove the 2 best maps of HotS and left fucking Deadwing in?
Nice they actually are introducing a community map, too bad it's also with Blizzard maps instead of some other community work.

Blizzard being Blizzard

edit: I can't still get over it. HOW HARD FOR THEM is to recognize good maps???????
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elche
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland170 Posts
December 19 2014 13:07 GMT
#187
Blizzard is adding these shitty maps, so when they release LotV beta people will be impressed how good the new maps are compared to these ones.
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
December 19 2014 13:07 GMT
#188
Im 100% sure these maps were made 3 days ago when someone realized " Oh shit we dont have new maps ?". Just look , 2011 maps from community were better.

Blizzard please you fucked up big this time.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Mahtasooma
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany475 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 13:16:48
December 19 2014 13:14 GMT
#189
Inferno Polis ultra clear vote for any Zerg. It's not like T and P can blink / warpin drop comfortly from main to third and back.

And Island expansions again... Blizz, seriously.. is anyone over in Paris even still playing this game?
http://twitch.tv/mahtasooma
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 13:17:55
December 19 2014 13:17 GMT
#190
I think the worst map is Secret Spring, there's just so much imbalance in that map, and it doesn't even encourage any fun games. Protoss has to 2 base all in, since 3rd is so hard to take. When protoss does immortal all in vs zerg for example, you can forcefield the ramp to zerg's main+nat and that's a free 3rd for protoss to kill. And if it still goes into macro if somehow both players don't all in each other, it'll be a boring split map game with how the map is designed.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12377 Posts
December 19 2014 13:30 GMT
#191
Excited to see how these play out.
No will to live, no wish to die
helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
December 19 2014 14:05 GMT
#192
love it how so many are hating on blizzard. :-/
I think it was okay to remove KSS and Overgrowth (they got old), and MGR wasn't the most balanced map.
I would have liked Nimbus for another season.
Not sure about Secret Spring, but the rest looks rather promising. We'll have to see
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 19 2014 14:14 GMT
#193
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
December 19 2014 14:18 GMT
#194
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7
"Not you."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 14:19:08
December 19 2014 14:18 GMT
#195
On December 19 2014 23:18 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7

I'm pretty sure we have maps of every color. We even have a purple map iirc
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
December 19 2014 14:23 GMT
#196
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


How surprising...
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
December 19 2014 14:31 GMT
#197
I feel like the new maps favour Zerg the most tbh (not sure about Inferno, but the other 3 ones).
What do u guys think?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
December 19 2014 14:33 GMT
#198
Needs more 3 player maps ;_;
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 19 2014 14:41 GMT
#199
On December 19 2014 23:18 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7


Yes, that looks fun to play on, and the deep green gives a positive mindset! This in the pool would made me happy.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 19 2014 14:45 GMT
#200
On December 19 2014 23:41 Pyloss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 23:18 Meavis wrote:
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7


Yes, that looks fun to play on, and the deep green gives a positive mindset! This in the pool would made me happy.


Ohana, Tal'Darim Altar, Shattered Temple, Jungle Basin, Steppes of War, Bel'shir beach. #ZenPool #PylossDreampool
LiquipediaWanderer
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 161
Rex 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 10436
Sea 6080
Jaedong 894
Stork 352
Larva 350
Soma 292
BeSt 195
ZerO 183
Rush 175
Hyuk 171
[ Show more ]
Mini 164
Zeus 161
Sharp 137
Pusan 126
910 123
EffOrt 112
Shuttle 77
Leta 66
Snow 63
Barracks 54
NotJumperer 47
Hyun 46
sorry 40
Mind 31
soO 29
Shine 26
ToSsGirL 25
JYJ 16
zelot 15
GoRush 15
Movie 13
Noble 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Bale 6
Dota 2
Fuzer 220
NeuroSwarm182
XcaliburYe116
League of Legends
C9.Mang0439
JimRising 390
Counter-Strike
summit1g9681
olofmeister1703
shoxiejesuss868
x6flipin336
edward194
Other Games
B2W.Neo779
Mew2King97
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick719
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc249
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2713
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
49m
OSC
1d
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.