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Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
December 19 2014 12:25 GMT
#181
On December 19 2014 20:49 KatatoniK wrote:
Out of all the old maps they keep Deadwing, Catellena and Foxtrot? Really. Overgrowth and KSS were really good maps from the current pool. Why can't we keep them and have an extra community map.

Feeling a little eurgh over this pool but will at least give the new maps a chance before I grab my pitchfork.


I don't think it had anything to do with balance, but rather kicking out the maps that were 9 months old.
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Edowyth
Profile Joined October 2010
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 12:28:04
December 19 2014 12:26 GMT
#182
On December 19 2014 21:07 Supersamu wrote:
I think it would be funny if there was a mixture between destructible rocks and collapsible towers (or whatever they are called).

A: Destructible rocks: The path is 2x wide and there is a x wide destructible rock, the other x is undestructible terrain you cannot pass. If the destructible rocks get destroyed, the path gets transformed into B

B: Collapsible tower: The path is 2x wide and there is a x wide open terrain and a x wide collapsible tower right next to it. If the collapsible tower gets destroyed, the path gets transformed into A.

Obviously it doesn't make thematic sense with the collapsible tower, but I think it would be funny if Player Y constantly closes the path and Player Z constantly wants to open the path. I don't know if that makes sense balance-wise, but I think David Kim would like that idea from what I heard so far.


You're essentially asking for a collapsible tower that rebuilds the tower bit a few seconds after dropping on the path. Self-renewing collapsible towers, then.

Self-renewing collapsible towers would be cool for some niche positions on maps (opening up a new attack path to a third / a back-door to a main / etc) and open up some diversity for map makers.

Why not?

On December 19 2014 21:25 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 20:49 KatatoniK wrote:
Out of all the old maps they keep Deadwing, Catellena and Foxtrot? Really. Overgrowth and KSS were really good maps from the current pool. Why can't we keep them and have an extra community map.

Feeling a little eurgh over this pool but will at least give the new maps a chance before I grab my pitchfork.


I don't think it had anything to do with balance, but rather kicking out the maps that were 9 months old.


Or maybe they just chose alphabetically.
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SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
December 19 2014 12:28 GMT
#183
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
December 19 2014 12:32 GMT
#184
On December 19 2014 19:15 Charoisaur wrote:
please stop the blizzard bashing until you have properly tested the new maps.
if you look at them first they seem to be quite weird but maybe they will play out very well.
when i first saw KSS or merry go round i also thought they would be terrible but now everybody is sad they are gone.

also i agree with blizzards decision to remove overgrowth, KSS and merry go round. Sure they are one of the best maps ever created but they are just to old. Better keep the map pool fresh instead of keeping the good maps forever.


Who's sad that MGR is gone?
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
December 19 2014 12:39 GMT
#185
As a protoss player, when new maps are released I always like to find cannon rush spots. The most imba cannon rush spot I found so far is on Expedition Lost: http://i.imgur.com/XpxmFpJ.jpg

You only need 2 pylons, and your probe can jump through the pylons when building the cannon. Also this cannon rush spot covers the natural ramp, so zerg can't send drones out to get extra expansions or send lings to be aggressive. The only positive news I can tell to zerg players is that you can break the rocks in your main instead of breaking through the cannons to secure an expansion, that's also a reason why I think it's not worth adding more than 2 cannons to contain the zerg natural here.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 13:02:29
December 19 2014 13:00 GMT
#186
jesus fucking christ did they just remove the 2 best maps of HotS and left fucking Deadwing in?
Nice they actually are introducing a community map, too bad it's also with Blizzard maps instead of some other community work.

Blizzard being Blizzard

edit: I can't still get over it. HOW HARD FOR THEM is to recognize good maps???????
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Elche
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland170 Posts
December 19 2014 13:07 GMT
#187
Blizzard is adding these shitty maps, so when they release LotV beta people will be impressed how good the new maps are compared to these ones.
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
December 19 2014 13:07 GMT
#188
Im 100% sure these maps were made 3 days ago when someone realized " Oh shit we dont have new maps ?". Just look , 2011 maps from community were better.

Blizzard please you fucked up big this time.
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Mahtasooma
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany475 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 13:16:48
December 19 2014 13:14 GMT
#189
Inferno Polis ultra clear vote for any Zerg. It's not like T and P can blink / warpin drop comfortly from main to third and back.

And Island expansions again... Blizz, seriously.. is anyone over in Paris even still playing this game?
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Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 13:17:55
December 19 2014 13:17 GMT
#190
I think the worst map is Secret Spring, there's just so much imbalance in that map, and it doesn't even encourage any fun games. Protoss has to 2 base all in, since 3rd is so hard to take. When protoss does immortal all in vs zerg for example, you can forcefield the ramp to zerg's main+nat and that's a free 3rd for protoss to kill. And if it still goes into macro if somehow both players don't all in each other, it'll be a boring split map game with how the map is designed.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12450 Posts
December 19 2014 13:30 GMT
#191
Excited to see how these play out.
No will to live, no wish to die
helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
December 19 2014 14:05 GMT
#192
love it how so many are hating on blizzard. :-/
I think it was okay to remove KSS and Overgrowth (they got old), and MGR wasn't the most balanced map.
I would have liked Nimbus for another season.
Not sure about Secret Spring, but the rest looks rather promising. We'll have to see
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 19 2014 14:14 GMT
#193
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D
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Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
December 19 2014 14:18 GMT
#194
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 14:19:08
December 19 2014 14:18 GMT
#195
On December 19 2014 23:18 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7

I'm pretty sure we have maps of every color. We even have a purple map iirc
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2552 Posts
December 19 2014 14:23 GMT
#196
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


How surprising...
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helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
December 19 2014 14:31 GMT
#197
I feel like the new maps favour Zerg the most tbh (not sure about Inferno, but the other 3 ones).
What do u guys think?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
December 19 2014 14:33 GMT
#198
Needs more 3 player maps ;_;
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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 19 2014 14:41 GMT
#199
On December 19 2014 23:18 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7


Yes, that looks fun to play on, and the deep green gives a positive mindset! This in the pool would made me happy.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 19 2014 14:45 GMT
#200
On December 19 2014 23:41 Pyloss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 23:18 Meavis wrote:
On December 19 2014 23:14 Pyloss wrote:
We need more green maps! I enjoyed Ohana way to mutch just because it was green - and no new green map incoming...

and also, the one map which is not from Blizzard is b far the best..:D


green you say? http://imgur.com/a/Ac8r7


Yes, that looks fun to play on, and the deep green gives a positive mindset! This in the pool would made me happy.


Ohana, Tal'Darim Altar, Shattered Temple, Jungle Basin, Steppes of War, Bel'shir beach. #ZenPool #PylossDreampool
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