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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 16 2014 18:04 GMT
#201
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 16 2014 18:05 GMT
#202
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.

Is bo7 playoffs allkill again?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 16 2014 18:12 GMT
#203
On December 17 2014 03:05 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.

Is bo7 playoffs allkill again?


Yes
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 16 2014 18:12 GMT
#204
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 16 2014 18:12 GMT
#205
TANGTANG will be the new child labor terran for Prime.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 18:16:10
December 16 2014 18:14 GMT
#206
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague ace is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 16 2014 18:14 GMT
#207
On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy 4-0 KT, March 30 2014
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 16 2014 18:14 GMT
#208
On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 16 2014 18:15 GMT
#209
That's the only one I could think of, thanks guys.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 16 2014 18:17 GMT
#210
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 16 2014 18:43 GMT
#211
On December 17 2014 03:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
That's the only one I could think of, thanks guys.

Wasn't Zest's murder of SKT a true allkill?
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 16 2014 18:50 GMT
#212
Was really hoping the rosters would be announced today too
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 16 2014 19:00 GMT
#213
On December 17 2014 03:17 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.

It will be glorious to see your power rank with Startale way too high, just like with CJ last year
At least i hope you do one, i think i will try one too this time, it's kinda fun to think about it
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 16 2014 19:01 GMT
#214
On December 17 2014 03:43 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
That's the only one I could think of, thanks guys.

Wasn't Zest's murder of SKT a true allkill?


Yeah but that was in r1 before Billowja went ham on KT in r2.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:19:41
December 16 2014 19:19 GMT
#215
On December 17 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Was really hoping the rosters would be announced today too


They were, just preliminary one.

On December 17 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:17 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.

It will be glorious to see your power rank with Startale way too high, just like with CJ last year
At least i hope you do one, i think i will try one too this time, it's kinda fun to think about it


Was CJ top-2, i don't remember?
Because, they were literally one game from getting there.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:21:19
December 16 2014 19:21 GMT
#216
On December 17 2014 04:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Was really hoping the rosters would be announced today too


They were, just preliminary one.

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:17 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.

It will be glorious to see your power rank with Startale way too high, just like with CJ last year
At least i hope you do one, i think i will try one too this time, it's kinda fun to think about it


Was CJ top-2, i don't remember?
Because, they were literally one game from getting there.

Zealously put CJ as first place on his power rank. They failed horribly at first, but ended up nearly beating SKT to make it to the finals.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
December 16 2014 19:23 GMT
#217
On December 17 2014 04:21 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 04:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Was really hoping the rosters would be announced today too


They were, just preliminary one.

On December 17 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:17 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.

It will be glorious to see your power rank with Startale way too high, just like with CJ last year
At least i hope you do one, i think i will try one too this time, it's kinda fun to think about it


Was CJ top-2, i don't remember?
Because, they were literally one game from getting there.

Zealously put CJ as first place on his power rank. They failed horribly at first, but ended up nearly beating SKT to make it to the finals.


It wasn't that horrible :p
sOs and Prime were horrible.
Ah, right, Prime beat CJ in first round.
Right then.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 16 2014 19:26 GMT
#218
On December 17 2014 04:21 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 04:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Was really hoping the rosters would be announced today too


They were, just preliminary one.

On December 17 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:17 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.

It will be glorious to see your power rank with Startale way too high, just like with CJ last year
At least i hope you do one, i think i will try one too this time, it's kinda fun to think about it


Was CJ top-2, i don't remember?
Because, they were literally one game from getting there.

Zealously put CJ as first place on his power rank. They failed horribly at first, but ended up nearly beating SKT to make it to the finals.


I stand by the logic of placing CJ at #1. Couldn't have known beforehand they would forget how to play for a full round before starting to get into it. That herO vs Rain game 7 though -.-
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 16 2014 19:33 GMT
#219
On December 17 2014 04:26 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 04:21 The_Templar wrote:
On December 17 2014 04:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Was really hoping the rosters would be announced today too


They were, just preliminary one.

On December 17 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:17 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.

It will be glorious to see your power rank with Startale way too high, just like with CJ last year
At least i hope you do one, i think i will try one too this time, it's kinda fun to think about it


Was CJ top-2, i don't remember?
Because, they were literally one game from getting there.

Zealously put CJ as first place on his power rank. They failed horribly at first, but ended up nearly beating SKT to make it to the finals.


I stand by the logic of placing CJ at #1. Couldn't have known beforehand they would forget how to play for a full round before starting to get into it. That herO vs Rain game 7 though -.-


Plz no curse this year!
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 16 2014 19:34 GMT
#220
On December 17 2014 04:33 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 04:26 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 04:21 The_Templar wrote:
On December 17 2014 04:19 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Was really hoping the rosters would be announced today too


They were, just preliminary one.

On December 17 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:17 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 03:04 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
[quote]
People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.


Life, San, Curious, Hack, aLive, Leenock, (Parting, Bomber) isn't a team I would rate very far below CJ or SKT in a Bo7.


And noone from them is really teamleague guy. On paper of course it looks cute, even cuter than IM last season.
If PartinG plays, they might contest round playoffs, having Life as your teamleague is kinda underwhelming.

On December 17 2014 03:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
When was the last time we saw a true all-kill in a Bo7?


Billowy :>


When you say that they aren't team league guys, are you saying that they don't usually perform well in team leagues (likely because they have not put much focus on them in the past, as is true for most of ST) or that they're not streaky enough? If it's the former, I'm fairly confident Life and friends can handle preparing for a player they know in advance on maps they are familiar with.

It will be glorious to see your power rank with Startale way too high, just like with CJ last year
At least i hope you do one, i think i will try one too this time, it's kinda fun to think about it


Was CJ top-2, i don't remember?
Because, they were literally one game from getting there.

Zealously put CJ as first place on his power rank. They failed horribly at first, but ended up nearly beating SKT to make it to the finals.


I stand by the logic of placing CJ at #1. Couldn't have known beforehand they would forget how to play for a full round before starting to get into it. That herO vs Rain game 7 though -.-


Plz no curse this year!


Let's face it, people would have said I cursed CJ even if they'd lost 3-4 in the finals -.^
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