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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
December 16 2014 15:29 GMT
#181
Why is nimbus not played?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
b_stial
Profile Joined May 2013
France20 Posts
December 16 2014 15:30 GMT
#182
Awesome, can't wait for it
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 16 2014 15:38 GMT
#183
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
December 16 2014 15:40 GMT
#184
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


Blame reality vs soulkey
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 16 2014 15:42 GMT
#185
On December 17 2014 00:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


Blame reality vs soulkey


We shouldn't let one 3 and a half hour game/regame spoil the bunch.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 16 2014 15:46 GMT
#186
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa

Not everyone did. And they probably have good reasons, be it financial or something else. I mean maybe the teams themselves don't want Bo7 considering some of them have pretty small rosters
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 16 2014 15:55 GMT
#187
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#188
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

3-0's take like 40 minutes TT so lame
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
December 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#189
Awesome.
Starting next week already, looking forward to it!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 16 2014 16:05 GMT
#190
On December 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

3-0's take like 40 minutes TT so lame

So you'd rather want StarTale to get destroyed by Prime by a 4 game difference than by a 3 game difference?
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 16 2014 16:10 GMT
#191
Thank whoever believe, this stupid "prime will destroy StarTale" gonna end pretty damn soon, when the old ProLeaguePunchingball will be the new one.

Who cries for Bo7? I cry for no 2v2!!
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 16 2014 16:13 GMT
#192
On December 17 2014 01:05 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

3-0's take like 40 minutes TT so lame

So you'd rather want StarTale to get destroyed by Prime by a 4 game difference than by a 3 game difference?

Prime's six would be YoDa, Creator, Byun (maybe?), B4, Myungsik, and probably TANGTANG

ST's would be San, Hack, Bomber, Life, aLive, Curious.

I'd take ST
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 16 2014 16:16 GMT
#193
Byun will not play.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 16 2014 16:19 GMT
#194
On December 17 2014 01:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 01:05 Lorning wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

3-0's take like 40 minutes TT so lame

So you'd rather want StarTale to get destroyed by Prime by a 4 game difference than by a 3 game difference?

Prime's six would be YoDa, Creator, Byun (maybe?), B4, Myungsik, and probably TANGTANG

ST's would be San, Hack, Bomber, Life, aLive, Curious.

I'd take ST

I wouldn't
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 16:20:10
December 16 2014 16:19 GMT
#195
On December 17 2014 01:10 Clonester wrote:
Who cries for Bo7? I cry for no 2v2!!

I cry for losing sundays.
don't wall off against random
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
December 16 2014 17:11 GMT
#196
On December 17 2014 01:16 Clonester wrote:
Byun will not play.

Source?
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 16 2014 17:13 GMT
#197
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 16 2014 17:35 GMT
#198
On December 17 2014 01:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 01:05 Lorning wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

3-0's take like 40 minutes TT so lame

So you'd rather want StarTale to get destroyed by Prime by a 4 game difference than by a 3 game difference?

Prime's six would be YoDa, Creator, Byun (maybe?), B4, Myungsik, and probably TANGTANG

ST's would be San, Hack, Bomber, Life, aLive, Curious.

I'd take ST

Bomber is only going to play rarely
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
December 16 2014 17:36 GMT
#199
On December 17 2014 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 00:55 Zealously wrote:
On December 17 2014 00:38 Darkhorse wrote:
What the fucking fuck. Literally everyone in the world asked for Bo7...

Stupid kespa


I didn't, because I firmly believe that Bo7 would stretch current rosters pretty thin. Not all teams have 6 players that could be reasonably expected to beat decent players. Best of 7 doesn't automatically make the matches better or more entertaining (see Proleague 12-13)

People want to see bo7 cause it rewards the depth of a team. You could argue that the teams right now lack the players to make a bo7 proleague work and you probably would be right, but still, i don't see what is wrong with having some "lesser" players gain experience and playtime.
With a bo5 we probably see the same 4 core players every week.
I mean it will be great regardless, but bo7 would add to it (season 12-13 is a bad example, the quality of the players on average just wasn't there yet)


That's why it's cool to have Bo7 in playoffs, because it truly rewards best team.
Neither Startale, Prime or MVP, even Samsung after RorO's retirement is going to be truly competitive team in bo7, but in bo5 they can reach playoffs and then try to check depths.

Removing Sundays is a crime though :< Even worse than finals in autumn.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
December 16 2014 18:00 GMT
#200
D: best of 5
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