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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5606 Posts
December 02 2014 23:30 GMT
#81
On December 03 2014 08:21 frajen86 wrote:
Speedrun it!

Starcraft speedrunning is really fun, especially the original series with its amount of glitches and imba. I was running Precursor at one point, anything beyond that is out of my league.
I find WoL's Brutal significantly easier than HotS', at least I haven't yet bothered to finish the latter. Abusing the Terran tech was so much more fun.
don't wall off against random
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
December 03 2014 00:42 GMT
#82
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.
why?
TedCruz2016
Profile Joined November 2014
Hong Kong271 Posts
December 03 2014 02:22 GMT
#83
On December 03 2014 08:30 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 08:21 frajen86 wrote:
Speedrun it!

Starcraft speedrunning is really fun, especially the original series with its amount of glitches and imba. I was running Precursor at one point, anything beyond that is out of my league.
I find WoL's Brutal significantly easier than HotS', at least I haven't yet bothered to finish the latter. Abusing the Terran tech was so much more fun.


It's not the same game. HotS campaign is a RPG, which was the oringinal plan. With Kerrigan the superheroine dropping banelings and summoning Leviathan, you hardly need anything else.
Make DC listen!
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
December 03 2014 02:30 GMT
#84
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.

Too bad then that they explicitly said at Blizzcon that we can expect LotV's Brutal to be roughly the same as in HotS.
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
December 03 2014 02:34 GMT
#85
On December 03 2014 11:30 Maniak_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.

Too bad then that they explicitly said at Blizzcon that we can expect LotV's Brutal to be roughly the same as in HotS.


Well fuck balls then! Don't remember that part.
why?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
December 03 2014 02:59 GMT
#86
On December 02 2014 22:12 lichter wrote:
New rule: You can only touch your keyboard and mouse while holding your breath

* Disclaimer: lichter takes no responsibility for anyone that actually tries this and passes out


Hmm...I don't think I can do this, i'd be hyperventilating as much as I toke
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
December 03 2014 03:00 GMT
#87
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.


It is going to be the Protoss campaign, nothing is impossible with Protoss.

Sorry I had to.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
December 03 2014 03:25 GMT
#88
On December 03 2014 11:34 caznitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 11:30 Maniak_ wrote:
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.

Too bad then that they explicitly said at Blizzcon that we can expect LotV's Brutal to be roughly the same as in HotS.


Well fuck balls then! Don't remember that part.

It was in the Q&A part of the campaign panel if I remember correctly.

So... yeah, that particular ship has sailed I'm afraid


Just for fun I've relaunched the HotS campaign in casual, to see how fast the missions can be done (so... pretty fast )
I always forget that they blocked the option to change hatchery rally points by right clicking. It kinda makes the campaign harder on Casual than on Normal since you have to remember to use the hotkeys instead

No idea why they did that though. You could right click to rally everything in WoL casual, and it's not like Zerg need lots of rally points. I guess they thought that 2 rally points on the same building would be too confusing? That gives an idea as to who the target audience is (they could rename "casual" to "console" and support gamepads. that'd pretty much be a brutal mode for console players )

I think I'll get back to a playthrough on brutal without using any kerrigan/evolution upgrade. Not as limited as the OP and still very easy, but plenty fun enough


Best thing in the HotS campaign: there's no Supernova.
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
TedCruz2016
Profile Joined November 2014
Hong Kong271 Posts
December 03 2014 03:52 GMT
#89
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.


We've already had a mini toss campaign in WoL. Did that feel "near impossible"?
Make DC listen!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-03 03:55:12
December 03 2014 03:54 GMT
#90
On December 02 2014 22:12 lichter wrote:
New rule: You can only touch your keyboard and mouse while holding your breath

* Disclaimer: lichter takes no responsibility for anyone that actually tries this and passes out


Good, I will use my mouse only.

Why you give me such easy challenges?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 03 2014 05:28 GMT
#91
I thought the campaign was super ez. I played brutal and typed "terribleterribledamage (might be terrible terrible damage" and rolled through it.
When I think of something else, something will go here
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 03 2014 05:43 GMT
#92
Well, it took Jaedong a few tries to beat The Crucible on brutal for the first time
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TedCruz2016
Profile Joined November 2014
Hong Kong271 Posts
December 03 2014 05:53 GMT
#93
On December 03 2014 12:00 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.


It is going to be the Protoss campaign, nothing is impossible with Protoss.

Sorry I had to.


Regardless of the campaign's difficulty, some Achievements must be very challenging.
Make DC listen!
Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
December 03 2014 08:50 GMT
#94
On December 03 2014 14:53 TedCruz2016 wrote:
Regardless of the campaign's difficulty, some Achievements must be very challenging.

Truth to be told, the Mastery achievements were what I would expect from Brutal difficulty. You have to think it through and possibly try a few times before you get them. Still, the main challenge comes from the timer, not the enemy waves proper.

Well, I guess my first LotV playthrough will have to be in Brutal...
Mass Recall: Brood War campaigns on SC2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303166
stapla05
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia67 Posts
December 03 2014 09:18 GMT
#95
The starcraft 2 vanilla campaign was pretty good for difficulty and was pretty fun and epic to pass. The hots was terrible even getting all the achievements was easy. I think i only died few times during the campaign but still was no were near as epic as i expected i feel it is not up to standard in difficulty. I expected more from blizzard.
http://www.rts-sanctuary.com/Dawn-Of-War/showuser=96956
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 03 2014 16:11 GMT
#96
On December 03 2014 12:52 TedCruz2016 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.


We've already had a mini toss campaign in WoL. Did that feel "near impossible"?



That last mission of it (In Utter Darkness) can be pretty tricky on Brutal if you don't want to abuse DT walls.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
December 03 2014 16:37 GMT
#97
On December 04 2014 01:11 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 12:52 TedCruz2016 wrote:
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.


We've already had a mini toss campaign in WoL. Did that feel "near impossible"?



That last mission of it (In Utter Darkness) can be pretty tricky on Brutal if you don't want to abuse DT walls.

Mmh even without abusing this, with just DTs and overseer sniping it's still pretty easy even to get all achievements on Brutal (though it may be close for the last one).
But timed missions (and especially *long* timed missions) are still annoying. Just enough to do so you can't do anything else while waiting, but not enough to do to be interesting :/
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
December 04 2014 15:30 GMT
#98
I wont do speedruns. Not for a while anyway.

But I'm currently at the SH mission without Kerrigan... Which is the same. I've allowed myself to use her to get bonus mission points. As long as she never fires at anything. And don't use abilities.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
December 22 2014 09:42 GMT
#99
On December 04 2014 01:11 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 12:52 TedCruz2016 wrote:
On December 03 2014 09:42 caznitch wrote:
I would love love love LotV to be near impossible.


We've already had a mini toss campaign in WoL. Did that feel "near impossible"?



That last mission of it (In Utter Darkness) can be pretty tricky on Brutal if you don't want to abuse DT walls.

For me the key was immortals.

I did not need the DT wall because my immortals blasted the hybrids to smithereens. At least for long enough to make it through brutal. Of course I also built phoenixes for air defence.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
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