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Hey guys
First of all. I am only a diamond player, but I had a very easy time beating HOTS on brutal the first time I tried. I decided to find out exactly how easy heart of the swarm was. So I set up a number of different restrictions to test if I could beat it with those. Here they are:
Mouse only (I used no keyboard whatsoever, and it was easy)
Ling queen (I only bought queens and lings (+ drones and overlords)
No expo (surprisingly easy)
Lings + 3 queens (The reason for 3 queens is that there is a mission where you need creep spread, and don't have a starting queen)
Mouse no expo
Mouse ling queen
Mouse ling 3queen
Mouse no expo ling queen
Mouse no expo ling 3 queens
Queen only! (This one is fairly difficult)
And last and best:
I've beaten HOTS on brutal with only 6 guys on minerals for the entire campaign.
In some missions you have to use Kerrigan's banelings a lot, but that being said, you basicly can take no damage with this against any attack. Meaning the fact that you have less drones or whatever, doesn't matter. You just have to wait.
Using any of these restrictions The Crucible is by far the hardest map to get past. I can say fairly certain that The Crucible cannot be beat with only 5 drones on minerals. You'll get overrun from all 3 sides and die with around 2 mins remain, no matter what setup you have. Even with 6 and using mining pairs, you get overrun. The thing is so close to dying, but it can be done.
I really hope Blizzard decides to make LoTV harder, because this is just messed up. It's so easy!!!!
/Mozdk
Ps: Any other suggestions to what I might try, are welcome :D
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if they make it harder, achievement category "mastery" might be impossible.
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On December 02 2014 21:59 Dingodile wrote:
if they make it harder, achievement category "mastery" might be impossible.
So the main part of HOTS is not the campaign? It's the mastery achievements. I'm sorry, but to me the campaign is what matters.
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WoL campaign is way harder then HotS, quite sad
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Might be because of the achievement system.
The BW campaign was sooo hard compared to the SC1 campaign and you can do this, because you're expected to be experienced, since you already beat the original one.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
New rule: You can only touch your keyboard and mouse while holding your breath
* Disclaimer: lichter takes no responsibility for anyone that actually tries this and passes out
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On December 02 2014 22:07 KalWarkov wrote:
WoL campaign is way harder then HotS, quite sad
agreed, I played them back to back (WoL just before HotS came out) and the difference was pretty remarkable.
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On December 02 2014 22:12 lichter wrote:
New rule: You can only touch your keyboard and mouse while holding your breath
* Disclaimer: lichter takes no responsibility for anyone that actually tries this and passes out
I swim. This would be easy :D
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Wow. How much time did it take to end the campaign with 6 guys on minerals?
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On December 02 2014 22:07 KalWarkov wrote:
WoL campaign is way harder then HotS, quite sad
Not really. You can complete nearly half missions with MM (Marine + Medic) and a little something else (depends on what unit in that mission you get, e.g. vikings in Haven's Fall/Safe Haven). That's how I saved credits to get the Masters achievements (Purchasing all upgrades of Vehicles, Aircrafts, Buildings, etc. at Swann's. Even if you finish all 29 missions the credits you earn won't be enough to upgrade everything so you may have to play the campaign for multiple times and finish one category at a time). Only the four upgrades for marine and medic are necessary while others are all optional.
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Still, too hard for me 
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Agreed it's way too easy but most people just complete it for the story/cinematics and move on. Seeing as in-game restrictions aren't enough maybe try to blunt your mechanics/brain with this one:
A shot (hard liquor of your choice) every time you finish a mission.
5 pushups/situps every time you use a kerrigan ability.
Must complete in one session.
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pretty impressive.
I fully agree that the campaign was waaaay to easy. Like, when I set a game on "hard", I expect to be challenged and save/load a lot on certain maps. When I set a game on "brutal", I expect that at least half of the missions aren't winable without massive abuses of the AI and map-bugs. Cheating opponents and stuff like that is what I want to see on such a difficulty.
Brutal in HotS however was more like "well, don't be stupid and you will get by without saving the game.".
WoL was harder... but also not at the level I expect "brutal" to be.
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On December 02 2014 22:17 Nogard wrote:
Wow. How much time did it take to end the campaign with 6 guys on minerals?
Most missions took under an hour in blizzard time. Last few all under 2.
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I can tell you guys that I haven't even beaten the last mission of WoL on brutal yet. So the difference is monumental.
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On December 02 2014 22:40 eurTsItniH wrote:
Don't use Kerrigan.
That sounds fun. And I can actually use all the restrictions above, in combination with this
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On December 02 2014 22:23 TedCruz2016 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2014 22:07 KalWarkov wrote:
WoL campaign is way harder then HotS, quite sad Not really. You can complete nearly half missions with MM (Marine + Medic) and a little something else (depends on what unit in that mission you get, e.g. vikings in Haven's Fall/Safe Haven). That's how I saved credits to get the Masters achievements (Purchasing all upgrades of Vehicles, Aircrafts, Buildings, etc. at Swann's. Even if you finish all 29 missions the credits you earn won't be enough to upgrade everything so you may have to play the campaign for multiple times and finish one category at a time). Only the four upgrades for marine and medic are necessary while others are all optional.
try all missons - brutal in both 
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You say the campaign is what matters and dismiss the mastery achievements but then you are basically making up your own achievements, just the game does not track them.
Not using kerrigan is a good one. Or just use standard units with none of the evolutions/upgrades. The campaign is fun, the multiplayer is there for the challenge.
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I think the point of HotS campaign was that the brutal mode was easy but the achievements were where the challenge was. I don't really feel like farming achievements though. And I don't particularly seek a tough challenge in my single player mode, players on B.net are harder to beat (well, some of them are ;D).
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