EPTForGG wins DreamHack Winter - Page 7
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xavierzzz
United Kingdom3 Posts
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SeriousLus
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 @admins, its stating facts not balance whining. User was warned for this post | ||
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Faefae
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Holly shit i though i was safe on TL  | ||
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Inertiaddict
United States126 Posts
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Nafa
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kaluro
Netherlands760 Posts
On December 02 2014 04:25 falconfan02 wrote: Well, you could also say that Life's success at Blizzcon was largely thanks to his heavy use of unorthodox, aggressive builds rather than him outclassing his opponents through standard play. I think saying that the mental and strategical side of Starcraft is in some way worth less than the mechanical or raw skill aspect isn't quite fair. Incorrect, even though life is aggressive - he didn't mindgame into weird switches or anything. ForGG had been out of the scene for a long time, so his strategies were not out in the public yet, this gave him a big one time advantage. I'd have to agree that forGG won through mindgames, not through superior mechanics or game sense. | ||
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
And to the poster above, acting like ForGG hasn't been in WCS/Dreamhack circuit/streaming all day... I don't even.... EVERYONE knows how ForGG plays. He just brought out some fresh builds that made his win that much more impressive. | ||
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hfsrj
Germany166 Posts
On December 02 2014 21:22 kaykoose wrote: You guys aren't implying that there's an issue with ForGG winning through strategy and mind games right? Because I'd think that's the way you should try to win a RTS game. This. The S in RTS, last but not least... Strategy. | ||
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herMan
Japan2056 Posts
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On December 02 2014 20:15 kaluro wrote: Incorrect, even though life is aggressive - he didn't mindgame into weird switches or anything. ForGG had been out of the scene for a long time, so his strategies were not out in the public yet, this gave him a big one time advantage. I'd have to agree that forGG won through mindgames, not through superior mechanics or game sense. Even if it's true, ForGG winning through mindgames is already some kind of achievement. That was his main weakness in the past. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
I will actually watch this finals even though I don't know anything about the Starcrafts anymore. | ||
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JarBinx
14 Posts
On December 02 2014 20:15 kaluro wrote: Incorrect, even though life is aggressive - he didn't mindgame into weird switches or anything. ForGG had been out of the scene for a long time, so his strategies were not out in the public yet, this gave him a big one time advantage. I'd have to agree that forGG won through mindgames, not through superior mechanics or game sense. Neither did ForGG. Life just didn't know how to deal with it. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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Svenoob
France10 Posts
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
On December 04 2014 17:50 Svenoob wrote: I'm wondering, when ForGG didn't mine from the base at the top left in game 3 (on catallena), if he did that on purpose in order to save minerals for late late game. Did he said something about that after the finals? This would be such a ballsy move considering the face of the game ! Sometimes I wonder how people can come up with such dim things? In what way should not mining save minerals? Do they multiply if you leave them alone? Do they start decomposing if you harvest them? | ||
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nedro
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Svenoob
France10 Posts
On December 04 2014 20:30 Karpfen wrote: Sometimes I wonder how people can come up with such dim things? In what way should not mining save minerals? Do they multiply if you leave them alone? Do they start decomposing if you harvest them? This is not the first time i see a terran player saving minerals in order to mine easy in the late late game, expecting his opponent will think he mined his half of the map. I think he did that because he knew that he was in a pretty decent position, so he could save these minerals in anticipation of crisis later in the game (knowing that this base was very well defended). I just can't believe he "didn't realise" that he was not mining from that base during all that time. I mean, it's absolutely impossible to zap a base full of minerals, especially at that level. | ||
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Theosiel
France9 Posts
On December 05 2014 05:00 Svenoob wrote: This is not the first time i see a terran player saving minerals in order to mine easy in the late late game, expecting his opponent will think he mined his half of the map. I think he did that because he knew that he was in a pretty decent position, so he could save these minerals in anticipation of crisis later in the game (knowing that this base was very well defended). I just can't believe he "didn't realise" that he was not mining from that base during all that time. I mean, it's absolutely impossible to zap a base full of minerals, especially at that level. Considering how scrappy that game was after the swarm hosts appeared and ForGG lost his main army, I don't believe any of the players thought they were in a good spot beyond that point. And given how ForGG was handling several small armies at the same time during most of the game (instead of the huge army with a few harassing squads that we usually see from Terran players), I would not be surprised if he actually did not notice that he was not mining from that base. But then again, i was not in his head during the game  | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
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