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Terence Chill
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany112 Posts
December 01 2014 13:29 GMT
#161
On December 01 2014 08:31 404AlphaSquad wrote:
This thread deserves to be closed. Everyone knows what this is coming to again and nothing is to be gained from this discussion.


but, but my popcorn...
sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 14:20:02
December 01 2014 14:19 GMT
#162
I love that thedwf linked 32 boys and pughcraft.

The 3 premier's and most important tournaments he linked are pretty terran heavy on the top, the other actual important tournament that is going had 1 Zerg qualify and has 4 of 8 being terran on the ro8, lets also ignore that terran won all 3 wcs's, plz buff terran guyz.

Also maps are imba, but Terran is not winning anyways!
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
December 01 2014 14:20 GMT
#163
On December 01 2014 22:01 TheDwf wrote:
Then I'm sure you will go through the small effort to write 40 pages based on 8 months of data to plead your case. From personal experience I can guarantee you will have ton of fun.

I do hope that there won't be anyone to:
- take his own heavily biased opinions and present them as if they were objective, inarguable facts
- gather as many numbers as possible and find how to present them to 'prove' his points
- dismiss any other opinions because they obviously come from random noobs with no relevance whatsoever, or are heavily biased or simply stupid
- dismiss any other numbers on the basis that any number can be presented in a way to prove any point (except his own since they're facts)
- treat any disagreeing person as a hater or a stupid fanboy, whereas he himself is obviously right


Hopefully, no one else is sufficiently condescending, self-entitled and with enough time on his hands to submit TL to another 40 pages of "factual, objective and undisputable" whining for protoss or zerg.


In any case, we're stuck with the current state of the game until WCS 2015 S1, so not much to do until then.
I just wish Blizzard will stop listening to the amount of whining (on any side), since no matter what the results will be with new maps, some people will always find ways to turn anything into either a clear fact or an irrelevant detail depending on their bias and bullshit level.
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8735 Posts
December 01 2014 14:21 GMT
#164
On December 01 2014 22:01 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 11:14 -_- wrote:
On December 01 2014 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
On December 01 2014 03:13 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Just because someone's korean doesn't mean they're better. People like Bunny, Scarlett or Snute could easily make Code S if they tried

Thanks for the good laugh, but no. Not a single chance.


When are you going to post your follow up article to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/460550-welcome-to-zparcraft-ii on the current state of balance? Can I suggest the title "Welcome to Tarcraft?"

Sure. When Protoss:

- has less Code S representation in one year than the dominant race in any single season;
- has his very best players (Rain, Zest) lying in Code B to 3 buttons strategies;
- is the least played race at pro level since 2.5 years;
- passively starts the game behind on any map (including the most "standard" ones) against the dominant race;
- has 5% of the options of the dominant race;
- doesn't even have the small way-out of low-skill all-ins to dodge macro games;
- is robbed of the areas where it's supposed to shine by design;
- has the smallest margin of error and the weakest comeback potential;
- is the race that loses the most against inferior players, and in particular repeatedly gets coinflipped to death by the dominant race playing unscoutable low-skill builds with smooth transitions;
- doesn't get a single Premier title in 7 months;
- has only one man who keeps winning against all odds;
- is still declared fine by legions of tools who don't understand its winrates no longer mean anything because its subtop has been erased from existence in the first place;

Then I'm sure you will go through the small effort to write 40 pages based on 8 months of data to plead your case. From personal experience I can guarantee you will have ton of fun.

But don't worry, you won't have to. What will happen is that Blizzard will put 7 Overgrowth clones for WCS 2015 S1, Protoss will play colo dual forge again and people will realize that nope, Terran isn't structurally stronger than Protoss (which is the big difference with Zparcraft).

By the way, here are all the recent big tournaments including enough Koreans:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_MSI_Beat_IT
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_WCS_Global_Finals
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HomeStory_Cup/10
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_DreamHack_Open/Winter
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/32_Boys_1_Cup
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PughCraft_Invitational_2

Waah, what a "Terrancraft" indeed… 1 title out of 6. Or probably 6 out of 6 with Doublemint's logic because A threw, plus if B does that, then C occurs and Terran wins anyway. ( )

Oh, and please follow http://challonge.com/leifengmf2 that is running as we speak; in particular pay attention to how Protoss got absolutely decimated so far, completely wiped by the extreme domination that TaeJa, Cure, Bbyong and Maru exerted against their Protoss opponents.


yep. now it's really time to close this thread.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
December 01 2014 14:26 GMT
#165
Time to end this
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
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