EPTBlizzard announces 2015 WCS changes - Page 16
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Prolet
United States37 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
Premier League RO32 Group Stage will be played onsite at the ESL Studios. Four groups will be played in the ESL Burbank studio in the US, and four groups will be played in the ESL Cologne studio in Germany. Does that mean that the Ro32 groups will be separated by region, all EU players in 4 groups, all US players in the 4 other groups? Or are they going to be randomized, and half the Americans fly to Germany, while half the Europeans fly to the US to play? It sounds weird either way. | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
I approve. I approve of more Koreans and less foreigners. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On November 01 2014 11:56 Spect8rCraft wrote: Uhh... ...Well, firstly the Korean tournaments are nice. Not sure how that's gonna turn out (like, will players be evenly distributed, or will one gain more fame/notoriety than the other, so on and so forth). But at the very least it opens up a lot of opportunities for the Koreans coming back. I'm not too keen on a unified WCS league. I mean, it's good in and of itself, probably done in opportunity cost with the second Korean league. But damn, that really shrinks down visibility for non-Korean players. ...Actually, it might not be too significant for Europeans, since Europe tends to host a variety of events anyway. And it probably won't hurt SEA/Oceania more than the current system. We'll see what happens with 'Murica, though. So maybe things will work out. I don't know why people had this ridiculous idea that non-Korean players had visibility anyway. Vast majority of Americans lose in the RO32, assuming they even get into it (which was only happening because they artificially choked off the Challenger spots to prevent anymore than 2 extra Koreans getting in per season). RO32 of WCS NA got the lowest views of any WCS region. Europe faired a little better but not by much. Majority of players that made it out of RO32 were Korean and it's all downhill from there for the foreigners. This is amazing for foreigner visibility, it's the only way that anyone who isn't on Vortix/Scarlett/Snute/Bunny/Majoronagoodday level is going to get any anymore. If I were a foreigner I'd be celebrating right now. | ||
Waxangel
United States33712 Posts
On November 01 2014 12:07 TotalBiscuit wrote: I don't know why people had this ridiculous idea that non-Korean players had visibility anyway. Vast majority of Americans lose in the RO32, assuming they even get into it (which was only happening because they artificially choked off the Challenger spots to prevent anymore than 2 extra Koreans getting in per season). RO32 of WCS NA got the lowest views of any WCS region. Europe faired a little better but not by much. Majority of players that made it out of RO32 were Korean and it's all downhill from there for the foreigners. This is amazing for foreigner visibility, it's the only way that anyone who isn't on Vortix/Scarlett/Snute/Bunny/Majoronagoodday level is going to get any anymore. If I were a foreigner I'd be celebrating right now. huk is so sad it's not hukonagoodday | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
I agree. It should be HuKonagoodday and MajOrwhenheshowsup. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
And it might actually make me watch pure foreigner games now :D | ||
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Beakyboo
United States485 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Yeah to be fair HuK should be on the list based on his recent form. He's really stepped it up. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On November 01 2014 12:31 ZenithM wrote: I don't know if it's bad for foreigners or not, if it's bad I'm sorry for them, but the thing is, I'd rather watch good players than see awful play being rewarded with money. If we destroy SC2 as an eSportS by not encouraging awful foreigner play, then so be it, let's destroy the eSportZz. And it might actually make me watch pure foreigner games now :D The thing is, a lot of people could actually be good if any spots actually paid, lol. Being bad for a lot people is cause, I don't know, they have to work instead of practicing. In a sense, by determining how many spots pay, you're also determining how many people will end up being good and how many will play your game. Blizzard doesn't get it. They never will. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 01 2014 12:35 TotalBiscuit wrote: Yeah to be fair HuK should be on the list based on his recent form. He's really stepped it up. He's already pushing for the title of best Canadian again. It's pretty cool to see. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On November 01 2014 12:35 TotalBiscuit wrote: Yeah to be fair HuK should be on the list based on his recent form. He's really stepped it up. Hukifhehadfood | ||
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
On November 01 2014 07:50 Cricketer12 wrote: whilst having some cool NA v EU matchups, i dont really understand the purpose behind such a drastic change to an otherwise mostly stable system get out of your comfort zone. a stable status quo doesn't necessarily mean it's the right/fair format. | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
First of all, we don't even have enough foreigners who are in the same playing field as Koreans. And then, when they actually meet, Koreans are steamrolling everyone with clean sweeps. Welcome back, 2011. Only with less foreigners (which are on the same level as Koreans), and messing things up for those Koreans who went to live to abroad for the tournaments, aka pushing forward the starcraft progaming scene. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8255 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:36 geokilla wrote: What the fuck? How are people going to get VISAs then?! Do they get VISAs for Europe or America or Canada? So reading through all the knowledgeable comments in this tread, it seems I was right. A lot of players will be forced to retire or won't be able to play due to improper visas. Doesn't this basically kill the foreign SC2 scene? It seems that ESL knew about these changes but decided not to say anything about it as well, according to ForGG's girlfriend on Reddit. | ||
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
Should be a lot easier for Snute or Scarlett to harvest more points in Premier League, right? | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
I figure that Blizzard is looking for WCS viewership to go up drastically. I am quite sure they would like at least 5x to 10x more the viewers on all WCS events at all times. With many more people playing and being interested in the game. If things stay largely the same, well they will stay the same. LotV and drastic changes to WCS are in the long term (2-3 years), going to be the last pushes to get dramatically increased viewership, or this shit is just going to go away. Blizzard cant just continue to fund it for another 20 years for no good reason. And I SINCERELY hope it works. I like SC2 and would love to see it around for a long time. | ||
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