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Road to BlizzCon #16 - KT.Zest - WCS 2014 - Page 4

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 31 2014 18:19 GMT
#61
On November 01 2014 03:15 Kihshra wrote:
So the authors of the articles believe that MMA is the strongest of those 16 ?


What?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 18:34:34
October 31 2014 18:31 GMT
#62
On November 01 2014 03:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 03:15 Kihshra wrote:
So the authors of the articles believe that MMA is the strongest of those 16 ?


What?

The Tarot card you chose for MMA is the 20th trump card whose number is greater than the cards you chose for the other players. I know you only wanted to associate the signification of the cards with the players but come on, did you really expect nobody would notice ?

Edit: could be Bomber too.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 31 2014 18:36 GMT
#63
On November 01 2014 03:31 Kihshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 03:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 03:15 Kihshra wrote:
So the authors of the articles believe that MMA is the strongest of those 16 ?


What?

The Tarot card you chose for MMA is the 20th trump card whose number is greater than the cards you chose for the other players. I know you only wanted to associate the signification of the cards with the players but come on, did you really expect nobody would notice ?

Edit: could be Bomber too.

We're playing starcraft, not Tarot
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 31 2014 18:38 GMT
#64
On November 01 2014 03:31 Kihshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 03:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 03:15 Kihshra wrote:
So the authors of the articles believe that MMA is the strongest of those 16 ?


What?

The Tarot card you chose for MMA is the 20th trump card whose number is greater than the cards you chose for the other players. I know you only wanted to associate the signification of the cards with the players but come on, did you really expect nobody would notice ?

Edit: could be Bomber too.


If we insist on attaching meaning to the numbers of the respective Tarot cards (which we really shouldn't, since their cards correspond to attributes of their play, personality and career rather than meaning within the Arcana), then Bomber would be our favorite to win, rather than MMA.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
October 31 2014 18:45 GMT
#65
On November 01 2014 03:38 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 03:31 Kihshra wrote:
On November 01 2014 03:19 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 03:15 Kihshra wrote:
So the authors of the articles believe that MMA is the strongest of those 16 ?


What?

The Tarot card you chose for MMA is the 20th trump card whose number is greater than the cards you chose for the other players. I know you only wanted to associate the signification of the cards with the players but come on, did you really expect nobody would notice ?

Edit: could be Bomber too.


If we insist on attaching meaning to the numbers of the respective Tarot cards (which we really shouldn't, since their cards correspond to attributes of their play, personality and career rather than meaning within the Arcana), then Bomber would be our favorite to win, rather than MMA.

Yeah that's why I added with my edit that it could also be Bomber (but the Fool can either be considered as "0" or "22" so it really depends what order you're considering). And I know we shouldn't care about the numers of the Tarot cards but it was funny to notice this ^^
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 31 2014 18:53 GMT
#66
damn zest has everything for him

nice job with this road to blizzcon TL
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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scotch4789
Profile Joined July 2013
United States42 Posts
October 31 2014 18:54 GMT
#67
Great articles, a big thanks to everyone involved!! Now we just have to wait for the party to start...
Naikonz
Profile Joined October 2014
Romania65 Posts
October 31 2014 19:01 GMT
#68
Zest will only have one problem. It's name is TaeJa. TaeJa can take down Zest in the semifinals. Great articles btw.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 31 2014 19:05 GMT
#69
On November 01 2014 01:28 stefan16 wrote:
this guy will grab all the trophies and money, finish his 2 years military service, get recruited as K-Drama actor (while other post-military-service player struggling to get any job at all), and making more money by kissing and flirting with beautiful girls

haha yeah i don't think he will have any problem to find a job after retiring from the competitive scene
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
October 31 2014 19:15 GMT
#70
amazing read, the best in months GO WOOKI !! Jesus so much hype you can feel it too?
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 31 2014 19:58 GMT
#71
Thanks for these articles. They helped me get a little bit into some of the players I don't follow at all (San, StarDust, HyuN), catch up with players I know well but haven't seen much of lately (Jaedong, MMA, jjakji), and just plain hyped for the rest, whom I both know and love.

And of course Classic.

I don't know how much of this was planned out and how much was happy accident, but taken together, these articles paint a wonderfully complete picture of SC2. Starting with Classic's relation to the balance issues of 2014, to the SlayerS/Boxer legacy with MMA, the transition from SC1 to SC2 with Jaedong, inevitability of military service through StarDust, the value of charisma and identity with MC, the place Koreans have in WCS through San, and the ESF/Kespa rivalry and SC2 bonjwas with Zest. We got a sense of real world stakes through HyuN and a real world success story with Polt. The importance of picking up the right player at the right time with Bomber and the importance of choosing the right venue to compete with Innovation. The wildly different attitudes progamers bring to the competition, like herO and soO, two players who have shown remarkable perseverance but obviously reach it from entirely different mental states. And in some cases great biographies like Taeja and Life. (sorry Jjakji)

The whole series was great, but Taeja's article really stands out for me as an ambitious and almost entirely successful attempt to comprehend a player whose talent seems to defy comprehension. At the very least, it does justice to his legacy. AM/EU championships generally don't hold much weight with me, but there comes a point, eventually, when you reach a critical mass of success that cannot be denied no matter what. For soO, whose gameplay I found an effective sleeping aid throughout most of 2013 and 2014, that tipping point was his third consecutive GSL finals. I don't care if it looks like you're A-moving to victory at that point, when you're facing the caliber of players soO was, he must know something about A-moving that others don't. If you respect anyone outside of KR, you have to respect Taeja.

Thanks again.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 31 2014 20:26 GMT
#72
On November 01 2014 04:58 pure.Wasted wrote:
Thanks for these articles. They helped me get a little bit into some of the players I don't follow at all (San, StarDust, HyuN), catch up with players I know well but haven't seen much of lately (Jaedong, MMA, jjakji), and just plain hyped for the rest, whom I both know and love.

And of course Classic.

I don't know how much of this was planned out and how much was happy accident, but taken together, these articles paint a wonderfully complete picture of SC2. Starting with Classic's relation to the balance issues of 2014, to the SlayerS/Boxer legacy with MMA, the transition from SC1 to SC2 with Jaedong, inevitability of military service through StarDust, the value of charisma and identity with MC, the place Koreans have in WCS through San, and the ESF/Kespa rivalry and SC2 bonjwas with Zest. We got a sense of real world stakes through HyuN and a real world success story with Polt. The importance of picking up the right player at the right time with Bomber and the importance of choosing the right venue to compete with Innovation. The wildly different attitudes progamers bring to the competition, like herO and soO, two players who have shown remarkable perseverance but obviously reach it from entirely different mental states. And in some cases great biographies like Taeja and Life. (sorry Jjakji)

The whole series was great, but Taeja's article really stands out for me as an ambitious and almost entirely successful attempt to comprehend a player whose talent seems to defy comprehension. At the very least, it does justice to his legacy. AM/EU championships generally don't hold much weight with me, but there comes a point, eventually, when you reach a critical mass of success that cannot be denied no matter what. For soO, whose gameplay I found an effective sleeping aid throughout most of 2013 and 2014, that tipping point was his third consecutive GSL finals. I don't care if it looks like you're A-moving to victory at that point, when you're facing the caliber of players soO was, he must know something about A-moving that others don't. If you respect anyone outside of KR, you have to respect Taeja.

Thanks again.


Make sure to check out all of the strategy companion articles to learn more about their playstyles too.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
October 31 2014 21:58 GMT
#73
FUCK YEAH ZEST
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
October 31 2014 21:59 GMT
#74
ah, at least one kt's protosses has something mystical about them again
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
October 31 2014 22:17 GMT
#75
Thanks again for all these awesome articles!
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
October 31 2014 22:25 GMT
#76
He's gonna take it all man. I feel it.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
October 31 2014 22:30 GMT
#77
Thanks for the great idea and execution you guys! These pieces are amazing to read, and they make me all tingly inside, HYPED!
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
October 31 2014 23:31 GMT
#78
I object to the idea that ESF "lost" because they were lazy or ineffective compared to KeSPA players and training regimes. They lost because KeSPA had and has a lot of money and giant sponsors, while ESF had nothing. There was no way to win.
Moltke
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia10 Posts
October 31 2014 23:49 GMT
#79
Gotta give it to Zest. Only summer Taeja could conceivably match him straight up.
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
November 01 2014 00:45 GMT
#80
great write up team!!!~~~ All of them thoroughly read, reread and enjoyed now,,,,really well done to you all, love SC2 and love Team Liquid!!~~

Zest is the man...there is no doubt...Who can stop him? Really? I think Inno has a chance...and I think herO has a chance. But that is all.
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