EPTOn November 02 2014 21:34 lichter wrote:
none of the players i wrote for won
good thing i wasnt a fan of any of them
none of the players i wrote for won
good thing i wasnt a fan of any of them
Haha all my players won
Road to BlizzCon #16 - KT.Zest - WCS 2014 - Page 6
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Haha all my players won | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18760 Posts
Whom did you write about? ^^ | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
Life, herO, INnoVation | ||
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IAMPRO
Afghanistan118 Posts
Time and time again, their results when competing on a world stage have been mediocre. Taeja, Snute and other players have shown they're superior players than those at Kespa. It's just so ridiculously irrational and reading this overhyping of zest just emphasises it so well. Yes plenty of good players are kespa given that they make up most korean players. But they're not the best, they do not have an inherent superiority and the elephant in the room has been proven completely wrong. MC outplaying herO, Polt narrowly losing to Classic, Zest getting destroyed by Life (both games life lost he threw IMO), Taeja outclassing SoO. Sorry for the long rant but teamliquid writers seem to lose all reason when nostalgia of broodwar teams kicks in and they start asserting things which have been proven incorrect time and time again. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 03 2014 01:08 IAMPRO wrote: kespa players irrationally overhyped shocker....how long before people accept theyre really not superior players just because they're on a broodwar team. The reason they're so prominent in GSL is because a lot of good players don't compete in Korea - those non-kespas left are usually without a proper team. Time and time again, their results when competing on a world stage have been mediocre. Taeja, Snute and other players have shown they're superior players than those at Kespa. It's just so ridiculously irrational and reading this overhyping of zest just emphasises it so well. Yes plenty of good players are kespa given that they make up most korean players. But they're not the best, they do not have an inherent superiority and the elephant in the room has been proven completely wrong. MC outplaying herO, Polt narrowly losing to Classic, Zest getting destroyed by Life (both games life lost he threw IMO), Taeja outclassing SoO. Sorry for the long rant but teamliquid writers seem to lose all reason when nostalgia of broodwar teams kicks in and they start asserting things which have been proven incorrect time and time again. I would argue that Zest's three championships this year probably played a larger role in the writer's assessment of Zest than his Brood War background. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 02 2014 21:34 lichter wrote: none of the players i wrote for won good thing i wasnt a fan of any of them Taeja on the other hand, made me look like a god. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On November 03 2014 01:31 stuchiu wrote: Taeja on the other hand, made me look like a god. Stating the obvious doesn't make you look like a God. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 03 2014 01:57 HellHound wrote: Stating the obvious doesn't make you look like a God. "Thou shalt not kill" seemed obvious to me. Though I didnt yell at people to put no other gods before me. So I am a merciful and understanding God? I'll go with that. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On November 03 2014 01:19 Zealously wrote: I would argue that Zest's three championships this year probably played a larger role in the writer's assessment of Zest than his Brood War background. Four if you count proleague, as he was clearly a huge part in their winning that. Zest wasn't overhyped, he didn't play nearly as well as he normally does, precisely the same as the last time he played in an overseas tournament. I don't think he knows how to adjust and was likely very tired and jetlagged. Life has a lot more experience playing outside of korea and had a better handle on what to do to prepare well. In all seriousness, it mostly comes down to the manager. Zest's play did not resemble his usual self at all. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18760 Posts
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
On November 03 2014 17:46 Whitewing wrote: Four if you count proleague, as he was clearly a huge part in their winning that. Zest wasn't overhyped, he didn't play nearly as well as he normally does, precisely the same as the last time he played in an overseas tournament. I don't think he knows how to adjust and was likely very tired and jetlagged. Life has a lot more experience playing outside of korea and had a better handle on what to do to prepare well. In all seriousness, it mostly comes down to the manager. Zest's play did not resemble his usual self at all. Zest playing a huge part in winning proleague? I dont think he contributed that much in the semi-finals and finals: losing to sOs, Rogue and Rain and only winning against Avenge and against Maru narrowly (i know he all killed SKT BUT we all know that Round 1 was SUCH a long time ago) | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 03 2014 23:21 MiniFotToss wrote: Zest playing a huge part in winning proleague? I dont think he contributed that much in the semi-finals and finals: losing to sOs, Rogue and Rain and only winning against Avenge and against Maru narrowly (i know he all killed SKT BUT we all know that Round 1 was SUCH a long time ago) The four rounds were equal in importance, though, so him playing well for a while before dropping off in Proleague still means that he was instrumental to their victory. Without Zest, I don't think they would have won Proleague because they would not have been in the position to. | ||
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cpower
228 Posts
On November 03 2014 01:08 IAMPRO wrote: kespa players irrationally overhyped shocker....how long before people accept theyre really not superior players just because they're on a broodwar team. The reason they're so prominent in GSL is because a lot of good players don't compete in Korea - those non-kespas left are usually without a proper team. Time and time again, their results when competing on a world stage have been mediocre. Taeja, Snute and other players have shown they're superior players than those at Kespa. It's just so ridiculously irrational and reading this overhyping of zest just emphasises it so well. Yes plenty of good players are kespa given that they make up most korean players. But they're not the best, they do not have an inherent superiority and the elephant in the room has been proven completely wrong. MC outplaying herO, Polt narrowly losing to Classic, Zest getting destroyed by Life (both games life lost he threw IMO), Taeja outclassing SoO. Sorry for the long rant but teamliquid writers seem to lose all reason when nostalgia of broodwar teams kicks in and they start asserting things which have been proven incorrect time and time again. I think Zest played too many PvP recently and his PvZ and PvT are a lot less impressive. In a protoss dominated era, a PvP god was enough to earn you a few good tournaments. He now needs to elevate his PvZ and PvT on par with his PvP games. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18760 Posts
On November 03 2014 01:08 IAMPRO wrote: kespa players irrationally overhyped shocker....how long before people accept theyre really not superior players just because they're on a broodwar team. The reason they're so prominent in GSL is because a lot of good players don't compete in Korea - those non-kespas left are usually without a proper team. Time and time again, their results when competing on a world stage have been mediocre. Taeja, Snute and other players have shown they're superior players than those at Kespa. It's just so ridiculously irrational and reading this overhyping of zest just emphasises it so well. Yes plenty of good players are kespa given that they make up most korean players. But they're not the best, they do not have an inherent superiority and the elephant in the room has been proven completely wrong. MC outplaying herO, Polt narrowly losing to Classic, Zest getting destroyed by Life (both games life lost he threw IMO), Taeja outclassing SoO. Sorry for the long rant but teamliquid writers seem to lose all reason when nostalgia of broodwar teams kicks in and they start asserting things which have been proven incorrect time and time again. MC didnt outplay herO lol | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On November 03 2014 01:08 IAMPRO wrote: kespa players irrationally overhyped shocker....how long before people accept theyre really not superior players just because they're on a broodwar team. The reason they're so prominent in GSL is because a lot of good players don't compete in Korea - those non-kespas left are usually without a proper team. Time and time again, their results when competing on a world stage have been mediocre. Taeja, Snute and other players have shown they're superior players than those at Kespa. It's just so ridiculously irrational and reading this overhyping of zest just emphasises it so well. Yes plenty of good players are kespa given that they make up most korean players. But they're not the best, they do not have an inherent superiority and the elephant in the room has been proven completely wrong. MC outplaying herO, Polt narrowly losing to Classic, Zest getting destroyed by Life (both games life lost he threw IMO), Taeja outclassing SoO. Sorry for the long rant but teamliquid writers seem to lose all reason when nostalgia of broodwar teams kicks in and they start asserting things which have been proven incorrect time and time again. You do know that all those non-kespa players were once part of kespa? They just chose to leave and find opportunities elsewhere. MC, Polt, Life, and Taeja all started in the kespa environment, which instilled the hard work and training regime. All they did was leave KeSPA, but they didn't lose the hard work or training regime. Some players that leave the kespa environment find it difficult to train (i.e. INnoVation) and need to go back. It has nothing to do with being on a BW team | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On November 04 2014 01:55 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: You do know that all those non-kespa players were once part of kespa? They just chose to leave and find opportunities elsewhere. MC, Polt, Life, and Taeja all started in the kespa environment, which instilled the hard work and training regime. All they did was leave KeSPA, but they didn't lose the hard work or training regime. Some players that leave the kespa environment find it difficult to train (i.e. INnoVation) and need to go back. It has nothing to do with being on a BW team Polt and Taeja were never kespa | ||
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sharkie
Austria18760 Posts
what a lie!!! Did you forget the abomination called EGTL?  Taeja WAS part of kespa!!! :O :O :O | ||
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cpower
228 Posts
MC, Polt have ridiculous foreign experience which allows them to put up a fair fight against the kespa players. If you let them to play out the series 100 times, they will lose a lot more games. Taeja has the experience and the skills, which makes him a favorite. Zest was not in form and played horribly, the loss is completely on him. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Neither was Life. | ||
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