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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 09 2014 22:10 GMT
#61
On September 10 2014 06:22 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 06:19 Xinzoe wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:16 Boucot wrote:
I was hoping that TaeJa would reconsider his retirement thing, I'm disappointed. I mean, he's only 19 years old. And we'll lose Polt and Bomber next year too because of the military, that's sad.


its more of a health issue for taeja, his wrists are really bad, when he streamed, he would stretch after everygame. he even had to take a break during ATC finals which shows how severe it is.


I hope he can win Blizzcon and buy new wrists from the money. Stay away SoS !


buy new wrists?

like robotic wrists?

Cyborg Taeja?
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 09 2014 22:11 GMT
#62
On September 10 2014 06:37 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 05:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Taeja

Don't you think that the North American scene needs to grow in order for the long term health of SC2?

There aren't even many NA pros to save.


Ouch


Taeja giving 0 fucks. My god if he was like this all the time he'd be idra.

Only Taeja actually has talent.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
September 09 2014 22:12 GMT
#63
On September 10 2014 07:04 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 05:50 sharkie wrote:
pretty much no pro cried about the "horrible" region lock ^^


This might be because very few of the players interviewed are going to be hurt by this change. Do you think Kane, TLO or Bunny will be upset? Do you think soO will care about four more players he can stomp all over in GSL? Of course not.


That's what I was thinking. It would be interesting what the Axiom players like Heart would say or HerO or Revival.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 09 2014 22:13 GMT
#64
With TLO interview:

"F*** Acer. ?"

really?
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 09:13:43
September 09 2014 22:13 GMT
#65
On September 10 2014 06:45 Heyoka wrote:
I agree with Scarlett's assessment.


You should have seen Wax raging on Skype for not getting replies fast enough. These articles require way too much paitence xD
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 09 2014 22:13 GMT
#66
soO is such a top dog, he really couldn't care less!
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 09 2014 22:13 GMT
#67
On September 10 2014 06:43 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 06:27 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:17 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:09 Grumbels wrote:
I don't believe Catz when he says that the difference between Koreans and foreigners is small. Haven't we gone over this argument often enough? The foreign scene largely consists of people that play part-time. Every single Korean pro is favored against every single foreigner with like five exceptions.

thats exactly what hes saying tho? you cant go into progaming as easily as a NA starcraft player compared to KR, its just a different world and a different culture

i see people mocking NA pros as being lazy or stupid or deserving scorn because they dont want to commit to 16hr/day practice and learning to speak korean. i dont think its a bad thing that WCS AM/EU could potentially become more inviting for people who want to compete among the best in their regions but don't want to have to tank their social and academic lives to do so. as long as blizzard makes appropriate changes with regard to WCS points and prizemoney i think its good for fans

That's fine, but it's known as college sports, not professional sports.

? the more appropriate analogue would be minor league sports, which are professional... if youre on a team and making money for it youre pro by definition o_O (edit: well i guess the definition is if its your primary source of income and you live off it, otherwise youre "semipro"? but thats semantics) dunno bout where youre from but in the usa and canada people go to see alternate league/minor league sports all the time as a cheaper and more relaxed alternative

are you going to tell me the barber down the street isnt a professional because hes not styling celebrities hair for $500 a pop?

Suppy isn't a professional player in the same sense as a Korean living in a team house practicing 12 hours a day. Even if EG pays him.

And people that don't prioritize their other activities are always going to dominate, that's just a fact. I don't see how you can get around it to get your desired state of amateur players dominating. That's only going to happen if the prize pool goes way down.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
September 09 2014 22:18 GMT
#68
On September 10 2014 07:10 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 06:22 FeyFey wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:19 Xinzoe wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:16 Boucot wrote:
I was hoping that TaeJa would reconsider his retirement thing, I'm disappointed. I mean, he's only 19 years old. And we'll lose Polt and Bomber next year too because of the military, that's sad.


its more of a health issue for taeja, his wrists are really bad, when he streamed, he would stretch after everygame. he even had to take a break during ATC finals which shows how severe it is.


I hope he can win Blizzcon and buy new wrists from the money. Stay away SoS !


buy new wrists?

like robotic wrists?

Cyborg Taeja?


It's possible.

Frieza did it

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
September 09 2014 22:18 GMT
#69
On September 10 2014 07:18 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 07:10 mikumegurine wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:22 FeyFey wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:19 Xinzoe wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:16 Boucot wrote:
I was hoping that TaeJa would reconsider his retirement thing, I'm disappointed. I mean, he's only 19 years old. And we'll lose Polt and Bomber next year too because of the military, that's sad.


its more of a health issue for taeja, his wrists are really bad, when he streamed, he would stretch after everygame. he even had to take a break during ATC finals which shows how severe it is.


I hope he can win Blizzcon and buy new wrists from the money. Stay away SoS !


buy new wrists?

like robotic wrists?

Cyborg Taeja?


It's possible.

Frieza did it

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It only took like 20+ episodes to kill him the first time and then like 1 minute the second time
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 09 2014 22:21 GMT
#70
On September 10 2014 05:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
Taeja

Don't you think that the North American scene needs to grow in order for the long term health of SC2?

There aren't even many NA pros to save.


Ouch

i actually laughed out loud when i read that. Taeja going full Idra, i hope we get to see some more of that before his exit from sc2.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 09 2014 22:22 GMT
#71
I'm sad that Suppy is going to retire before he can get his revenge on Parting for bwc 2012
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
September 09 2014 22:24 GMT
#72
On September 10 2014 07:09 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 07:08 tshi wrote:
What does this mean for Avilo?


He might make Challenger next year

I don't know man, that proxy nexus just forces him to pull SCVs every time, no way terran can beat that shit.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 22:25:25
September 09 2014 22:25 GMT
#73
On September 10 2014 07:13 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 06:43 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:27 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:17 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:09 Grumbels wrote:
I don't believe Catz when he says that the difference between Koreans and foreigners is small. Haven't we gone over this argument often enough? The foreign scene largely consists of people that play part-time. Every single Korean pro is favored against every single foreigner with like five exceptions.

thats exactly what hes saying tho? you cant go into progaming as easily as a NA starcraft player compared to KR, its just a different world and a different culture

i see people mocking NA pros as being lazy or stupid or deserving scorn because they dont want to commit to 16hr/day practice and learning to speak korean. i dont think its a bad thing that WCS AM/EU could potentially become more inviting for people who want to compete among the best in their regions but don't want to have to tank their social and academic lives to do so. as long as blizzard makes appropriate changes with regard to WCS points and prizemoney i think its good for fans

That's fine, but it's known as college sports, not professional sports.

? the more appropriate analogue would be minor league sports, which are professional... if youre on a team and making money for it youre pro by definition o_O (edit: well i guess the definition is if its your primary source of income and you live off it, otherwise youre "semipro"? but thats semantics) dunno bout where youre from but in the usa and canada people go to see alternate league/minor league sports all the time as a cheaper and more relaxed alternative

are you going to tell me the barber down the street isnt a professional because hes not styling celebrities hair for $500 a pop?

Suppy isn't a professional player in the same sense as a Korean living in a team house practicing 12 hours a day. Even if EG pays him.

And people that don't prioritize their other activities are always going to dominate, that's just a fact. I don't see how you can get around it to get your desired state of amateur players dominating. That's only going to happen if the prize pool goes way down.
are you replying to the correct post? i never said anything about amateur players dominating. in fact i actually mentioned lowering the WCS AM/EU prizepools before you did

i never said "people who practice less should win more/get more money" or anything even close to that. i just think having an official blizzard sanctioned and run league where local pro players can compete against their region, still make money and still win championships is cool in theory?? like i even said in my first post "as long as blizzard reduces the WCS/$ for nonkorean regions"

your definition of the "sense" of a professional doesnt mean anything, if youre playing for money and living off your gaming career youre a progamer
TL+ Member
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 22:27:13
September 09 2014 22:26 GMT
#74
On September 10 2014 07:25 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 07:13 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:43 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:27 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:17 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:09 Grumbels wrote:
I don't believe Catz when he says that the difference between Koreans and foreigners is small. Haven't we gone over this argument often enough? The foreign scene largely consists of people that play part-time. Every single Korean pro is favored against every single foreigner with like five exceptions.

thats exactly what hes saying tho? you cant go into progaming as easily as a NA starcraft player compared to KR, its just a different world and a different culture

i see people mocking NA pros as being lazy or stupid or deserving scorn because they dont want to commit to 16hr/day practice and learning to speak korean. i dont think its a bad thing that WCS AM/EU could potentially become more inviting for people who want to compete among the best in their regions but don't want to have to tank their social and academic lives to do so. as long as blizzard makes appropriate changes with regard to WCS points and prizemoney i think its good for fans

That's fine, but it's known as college sports, not professional sports.

? the more appropriate analogue would be minor league sports, which are professional... if youre on a team and making money for it youre pro by definition o_O (edit: well i guess the definition is if its your primary source of income and you live off it, otherwise youre "semipro"? but thats semantics) dunno bout where youre from but in the usa and canada people go to see alternate league/minor league sports all the time as a cheaper and more relaxed alternative

are you going to tell me the barber down the street isnt a professional because hes not styling celebrities hair for $500 a pop?

Suppy isn't a professional player in the same sense as a Korean living in a team house practicing 12 hours a day. Even if EG pays him.

And people that don't prioritize their other activities are always going to dominate, that's just a fact. I don't see how you can get around it to get your desired state of amateur players dominating. That's only going to happen if the prize pool goes way down.
are you replying to the correct post? i never said anything about amateur players dominating. in fact i actually mentioned lowering the WCS AM/EU prizepools before you did

i never said "people who practice less should win more/get more money" or anything even close to that. i just think having an official blizzard sanctioned and run league where local pro players can compete against their region, still make money and still win championships is cool in theory?? like i even said in my first post "as long as blizzard reduces the WCS/$ for nonkorean regions"

your definition of the "sense" of a professional doesnt mean anything, if youre playing for money and living off your gaming career youre a progamer

No, you said people that WCS AM catering to part-time players would be great.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
September 09 2014 22:33 GMT
#75
Everyone wants a piece of Taeja!
Liquid Fighting
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 09 2014 22:35 GMT
#76
On September 10 2014 07:26 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 07:25 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 07:13 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:43 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:27 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:17 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:09 Grumbels wrote:
I don't believe Catz when he says that the difference between Koreans and foreigners is small. Haven't we gone over this argument often enough? The foreign scene largely consists of people that play part-time. Every single Korean pro is favored against every single foreigner with like five exceptions.

thats exactly what hes saying tho? you cant go into progaming as easily as a NA starcraft player compared to KR, its just a different world and a different culture

i see people mocking NA pros as being lazy or stupid or deserving scorn because they dont want to commit to 16hr/day practice and learning to speak korean. i dont think its a bad thing that WCS AM/EU could potentially become more inviting for people who want to compete among the best in their regions but don't want to have to tank their social and academic lives to do so. as long as blizzard makes appropriate changes with regard to WCS points and prizemoney i think its good for fans

That's fine, but it's known as college sports, not professional sports.

? the more appropriate analogue would be minor league sports, which are professional... if youre on a team and making money for it youre pro by definition o_O (edit: well i guess the definition is if its your primary source of income and you live off it, otherwise youre "semipro"? but thats semantics) dunno bout where youre from but in the usa and canada people go to see alternate league/minor league sports all the time as a cheaper and more relaxed alternative

are you going to tell me the barber down the street isnt a professional because hes not styling celebrities hair for $500 a pop?

Suppy isn't a professional player in the same sense as a Korean living in a team house practicing 12 hours a day. Even if EG pays him.

And people that don't prioritize their other activities are always going to dominate, that's just a fact. I don't see how you can get around it to get your desired state of amateur players dominating. That's only going to happen if the prize pool goes way down.
are you replying to the correct post? i never said anything about amateur players dominating. in fact i actually mentioned lowering the WCS AM/EU prizepools before you did

i never said "people who practice less should win more/get more money" or anything even close to that. i just think having an official blizzard sanctioned and run league where local pro players can compete against their region, still make money and still win championships is cool in theory?? like i even said in my first post "as long as blizzard reduces the WCS/$ for nonkorean regions"

your definition of the "sense" of a professional doesnt mean anything, if youre playing for money and living off your gaming career youre a progamer

No, you said people that WCS AM catering to part-time players would be great.

lol ok dude. youre arguing with what you want me to think instead of anything i really said, so no point to this
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 09 2014 22:39 GMT
#77
On September 10 2014 07:35 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 07:26 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 07:25 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 07:13 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:43 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:27 Grumbels wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:17 brickrd wrote:
On September 10 2014 06:09 Grumbels wrote:
I don't believe Catz when he says that the difference between Koreans and foreigners is small. Haven't we gone over this argument often enough? The foreign scene largely consists of people that play part-time. Every single Korean pro is favored against every single foreigner with like five exceptions.

thats exactly what hes saying tho? you cant go into progaming as easily as a NA starcraft player compared to KR, its just a different world and a different culture

i see people mocking NA pros as being lazy or stupid or deserving scorn because they dont want to commit to 16hr/day practice and learning to speak korean. i dont think its a bad thing that WCS AM/EU could potentially become more inviting for people who want to compete among the best in their regions but don't want to have to tank their social and academic lives to do so. as long as blizzard makes appropriate changes with regard to WCS points and prizemoney i think its good for fans

That's fine, but it's known as college sports, not professional sports.

? the more appropriate analogue would be minor league sports, which are professional... if youre on a team and making money for it youre pro by definition o_O (edit: well i guess the definition is if its your primary source of income and you live off it, otherwise youre "semipro"? but thats semantics) dunno bout where youre from but in the usa and canada people go to see alternate league/minor league sports all the time as a cheaper and more relaxed alternative

are you going to tell me the barber down the street isnt a professional because hes not styling celebrities hair for $500 a pop?

Suppy isn't a professional player in the same sense as a Korean living in a team house practicing 12 hours a day. Even if EG pays him.

And people that don't prioritize their other activities are always going to dominate, that's just a fact. I don't see how you can get around it to get your desired state of amateur players dominating. That's only going to happen if the prize pool goes way down.
are you replying to the correct post? i never said anything about amateur players dominating. in fact i actually mentioned lowering the WCS AM/EU prizepools before you did

i never said "people who practice less should win more/get more money" or anything even close to that. i just think having an official blizzard sanctioned and run league where local pro players can compete against their region, still make money and still win championships is cool in theory?? like i even said in my first post "as long as blizzard reduces the WCS/$ for nonkorean regions"

your definition of the "sense" of a professional doesnt mean anything, if youre playing for money and living off your gaming career youre a progamer

No, you said people that WCS AM catering to part-time players would be great.

lol ok dude. youre arguing with what you want me to think instead of anything i really said, so no point to this

I'll quote it for you:

"i dont think its a bad thing that WCS AM/EU could potentially become more inviting for people who want to compete among the best in their regions but don't want to have to tank their social and academic lives to do so"

This statement is all I replied to, instead you've spent your last few posts making passive-aggressive remarks at me.

But nevermind, I'll stop bothering you.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
dogmeatstew
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada574 Posts
September 09 2014 22:46 GMT
#78
On September 10 2014 07:12 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 07:04 Zealously wrote:
On September 10 2014 05:50 sharkie wrote:
pretty much no pro cried about the "horrible" region lock ^^


This might be because very few of the players interviewed are going to be hurt by this change. Do you think Kane, TLO or Bunny will be upset? Do you think soO will care about four more players he can stomp all over in GSL? Of course not.


That's what I was thinking. It would be interesting what the Axiom players like Heart would say or HerO or Revival.


Personally I think HerO will be fine in KR. He might be borderline Code S but if he's in a house with his proleague involvement it's just a little less easy money for him, he still has weekend tournaments.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 22:48:16
September 09 2014 22:47 GMT
#79
soO vs taeja should be a showmatch...pay per view prime time from Las Vegas
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
September 09 2014 22:51 GMT
#80
On September 10 2014 07:13 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 06:45 Heyoka wrote:
I agree with Scarlett's assessment.


You should have seen Wax raging on Twitter for not getting replies fast enough. These articles require way too much paitence xD

It's a shame more don't give proper responses. It's good for them to voice their opinions on such matters, fans like to read about it, and it doesn't exactly take much effort. Win win.
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