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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it.
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
September 05 2014 03:21 GMT
#321
Avilo vs Shana, your stacked Ro8 !!1
:3
sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
September 05 2014 03:22 GMT
#322
On September 05 2014 12:13 Random_0 wrote:


2) Koreans who have fought their way into the GSL Ro8 and gave a big sigh of relief because they will definitely be in Code S next year. Wait! You have to re-qualify from scratch. Now admittedly all the guys who make GSL Ro8 are MONSTERS anyways, but upsets do happen, especially in Code A and Code B. Guys who might not make it back are Innovation and Stats. Maybe even Rain, who doesn't seem to be all that hot in qualifiers.


I don't think the requalify applies to GSL. At least it shouldn't.

My knee jerk is to dislike the region lock, but I'm willing to keep an open mind.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 05 2014 03:22 GMT
#323
did Blizzard offer an explanation or reasoning for this change?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 05 2014 03:23 GMT
#324
On September 05 2014 12:21 Starecat wrote:
Avilo vs Shana, your stacked Ro8 !!1

What about puCK, Scarlett, Masa, HuK, Neeb, Jim, MacSed? That's without looking at the player list, there are probably several more I'm forgetting.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12177 Posts
September 05 2014 03:23 GMT
#325
Btw Myungsik must feel like shit right about now
No will to live, no wish to die
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 05 2014 03:24 GMT
#326
On September 05 2014 12:09 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Does anyone else think the 2012 format was the best? I know Blizzard has said it was never their intention to make WCS some Olympic style tournament but I personally loved it.

The difference with 2012 and 2014(15) is that we had big companies throwing out money like confetti to pump up prize money. MLG, IGN, NASL all pulling out left Blizzard to fill in the void for yearly content.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 05 2014 03:24 GMT
#327
On September 05 2014 12:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:11 jakethesnake wrote:
Polt must be so happy right now.

I actually really dislike the full region lock idea. i have loved what WCS AM was this past year and have watched so much of it and unless a bunch of Koreans actually get residency in the AM region, I fear that WCS AM is going to just be plagued with forfeits and whining. I hope I'm wrong about that though.


WCS AM was a pleasure to watch this year. Now it's just gonna be so much less interesting. The skill level that was before Ro32 is now going to be Ro16 more even Ro8. We've seen that no one wants to really watch lower level NA players on a regular basis and now that's most of what it'll be.

But Arium has an American flag guys! Clearly this is what we wanted, to watch Arium play against Shana!


Ya, american players are so much more interesting just because they have white skin! who cares about the quality of games? i want to watch mid-gm players playing for thousands of dollors while much better korean pros suffer!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
September 05 2014 03:25 GMT
#328
On September 05 2014 12:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:11 jakethesnake wrote:
Polt must be so happy right now.

I actually really dislike the full region lock idea. i have loved what WCS AM was this past year and have watched so much of it and unless a bunch of Koreans actually get residency in the AM region, I fear that WCS AM is going to just be plagued with forfeits and whining. I hope I'm wrong about that though.


WCS AM was a pleasure to watch this year. Now it's just gonna be so much less interesting. The skill level that was before Ro32 is now going to be Ro16 more even Ro8. We've seen that no one wants to really watch lower level NA players on a regular basis and now that's most of what it'll be.

But Arium has an American flag guys! Clearly this is what we wanted, to watch Arium play against Shana!


Ya, american players are so much more interesting just because they have white skin! who cares about the quality of games? i want to watch mid-gm players playing for thousands of dollors while much better korean pros suffer!

10/10
:3
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 05 2014 03:26 GMT
#329
On September 05 2014 12:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:11 jakethesnake wrote:
Polt must be so happy right now.

I actually really dislike the full region lock idea. i have loved what WCS AM was this past year and have watched so much of it and unless a bunch of Koreans actually get residency in the AM region, I fear that WCS AM is going to just be plagued with forfeits and whining. I hope I'm wrong about that though.


WCS AM was a pleasure to watch this year. Now it's just gonna be so much less interesting. The skill level that was before Ro32 is now going to be Ro16 more even Ro8. We've seen that no one wants to really watch lower level NA players on a regular basis and now that's most of what it'll be.

But Arium has an American flag guys! Clearly this is what we wanted, to watch Arium play against Shana!


Ya, american players are so much more interesting just because they have white skin! who cares about the quality of games? i want to watch mid-gm players playing for thousands of dollors while much better korean pros suffer!


I'm ready
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 05 2014 03:26 GMT
#330
On September 05 2014 12:22 mikumegurine wrote:
did Blizzard offer an explanation or reasoning for this change?

They probably will later, my guess is that 2013 got a lot of backlash and they did a soft lock with the regional qualifiers in 2014, so I guess this was just where they were planning to go anyways.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 05 2014 03:27 GMT
#331
On September 05 2014 12:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:22 mikumegurine wrote:
did Blizzard offer an explanation or reasoning for this change?

They probably will later, my guess is that 2013 got a lot of backlash and they did a soft lock with the regional qualifiers in 2014, so I guess this was just where they were planning to go anyways.

Also keep in mind that this is not a full list of changes. They will probably decide on more in the next 2-3 months
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sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
September 05 2014 03:28 GMT
#332
On September 05 2014 12:22 mikumegurine wrote:
did Blizzard offer an explanation or reasoning for this change?


My guess is that Blizzard always wanted to do a region lock, and felt like this was the first year the NA and EU scenes could support it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 03:28 GMT
#333
On September 05 2014 12:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:11 jakethesnake wrote:
Polt must be so happy right now.

I actually really dislike the full region lock idea. i have loved what WCS AM was this past year and have watched so much of it and unless a bunch of Koreans actually get residency in the AM region, I fear that WCS AM is going to just be plagued with forfeits and whining. I hope I'm wrong about that though.


WCS AM was a pleasure to watch this year. Now it's just gonna be so much less interesting. The skill level that was before Ro32 is now going to be Ro16 more even Ro8. We've seen that no one wants to really watch lower level NA players on a regular basis and now that's most of what it'll be.

But Arium has an American flag guys! Clearly this is what we wanted, to watch Arium play against Shana!


Ya, american players are so much more interesting just because they have white skin! who cares about the quality of games? i want to watch mid-gm players playing for thousands of dollors while much better korean pros suffer!

Bring it to me. Really, my body is ready
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 05 2014 03:29 GMT
#334
So how does this work for Taiwan / China / HK exactly? Yea you are still running the qualifiers for it, would the residency requirement screw any of them over?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 05 2014 03:30 GMT
#335
On September 05 2014 12:29 Caihead wrote:
So how does this work for Taiwan / China / HK exactly? Yea you are still running the qualifiers for it, would the residency requirement screw any of them over?

They get a pass. Yhamm linked a tweet in the OP.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 05 2014 03:30 GMT
#336
On September 05 2014 12:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:11 jakethesnake wrote:
Polt must be so happy right now.

I actually really dislike the full region lock idea. i have loved what WCS AM was this past year and have watched so much of it and unless a bunch of Koreans actually get residency in the AM region, I fear that WCS AM is going to just be plagued with forfeits and whining. I hope I'm wrong about that though.


WCS AM was a pleasure to watch this year. Now it's just gonna be so much less interesting. The skill level that was before Ro32 is now going to be Ro16 more even Ro8. We've seen that no one wants to really watch lower level NA players on a regular basis and now that's most of what it'll be.

But Arium has an American flag guys! Clearly this is what we wanted, to watch Arium play against Shana!


Ya, american players are so much more interesting just because they have white skin!


For the love of God, not this strawman again. If skin tone was a factor in supporting foreigners, explain Suppy. Or Masa. Or Catz. Or Hendralisk. Or Illusion. Obviously, since they're not white, nobody wants them to win anything, right? This argument needs to disappear, because it's so blatantly and obviously flawed, and it makes everyone look bad. There is NO racial component for people liking the idea of players being able to succeed without being Korean.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
September 05 2014 03:30 GMT
#337
On September 05 2014 12:29 Caihead wrote:
So how does this work for Taiwan / China / HK exactly? Yea you are still running the qualifiers for it, would the residency requirement screw any of them over?


they can do qualifers, but if they win the qualifers, they are forced to move to NA and live there or they give up their qualification spots

? maybe lol
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 03:31:44
September 05 2014 03:30 GMT
#338
On September 05 2014 12:30 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:29 Caihead wrote:
So how does this work for Taiwan / China / HK exactly? Yea you are still running the qualifiers for it, would the residency requirement screw any of them over?

They get a pass. Yhamm linked a tweet in the OP.

It says same qualifiers, doesn't say anything about whether or not the same visa situations will continue.

If it means sports visa or green card only you just fucked over alot of people.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 05 2014 03:32 GMT
#339
On September 05 2014 12:30 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:11 jakethesnake wrote:
Polt must be so happy right now.

I actually really dislike the full region lock idea. i have loved what WCS AM was this past year and have watched so much of it and unless a bunch of Koreans actually get residency in the AM region, I fear that WCS AM is going to just be plagued with forfeits and whining. I hope I'm wrong about that though.


WCS AM was a pleasure to watch this year. Now it's just gonna be so much less interesting. The skill level that was before Ro32 is now going to be Ro16 more even Ro8. We've seen that no one wants to really watch lower level NA players on a regular basis and now that's most of what it'll be.

But Arium has an American flag guys! Clearly this is what we wanted, to watch Arium play against Shana!


Ya, american players are so much more interesting just because they have white skin!


For the love of God, not this strawman again. If skin tone was a factor in supporting foreigners, explain Suppy. Or Masa. Or Catz. Or Hendralisk. Or Illusion. Obviously, since they're not white, nobody wants them to win anything, right? This argument needs to disappear, because it's so blatantly and obviously flawed, and it makes everyone look bad. There is NO racial component for people liking the idea of players being able to succeed without being Korean.

I don't think it's so much as a skin color issue as it's a "well they're Korean so like goddamn get out of NA competition". I think that's more of the point that he's trying to make, it's not a skin color thing for those people in my opinion. Of course those people sound xenophobic and stupid but whatever.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 05 2014 03:33 GMT
#340
On September 05 2014 12:30 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:19 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:11 jakethesnake wrote:
Polt must be so happy right now.

I actually really dislike the full region lock idea. i have loved what WCS AM was this past year and have watched so much of it and unless a bunch of Koreans actually get residency in the AM region, I fear that WCS AM is going to just be plagued with forfeits and whining. I hope I'm wrong about that though.


WCS AM was a pleasure to watch this year. Now it's just gonna be so much less interesting. The skill level that was before Ro32 is now going to be Ro16 more even Ro8. We've seen that no one wants to really watch lower level NA players on a regular basis and now that's most of what it'll be.

But Arium has an American flag guys! Clearly this is what we wanted, to watch Arium play against Shana!


Ya, american players are so much more interesting just because they have white skin!


For the love of God, not this strawman again. If skin tone was a factor in supporting foreigners, explain Suppy. Or Masa. Or Catz. Or Hendralisk. Or Illusion. Obviously, since they're not white, nobody wants them to win anything, right? This argument needs to disappear, because it's so blatantly and obviously flawed, and it makes everyone look bad. There is NO racial component for people liking the idea of players being able to succeed without being Korean.

1. That's sarcasm.
2. That would be seriously racist if it wasn't sarcasm.
3. Korea (not korean) is the main reason why this region-locking idea is bad. Better players playing in region --> everyone else gets better. This is why Blizzard needs to provide some people with help moving over if they want to switch regions; it's not healthy to have everyone in korea anymore.
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