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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 27 2014 23:41 GMT
#141
fuk u TTesports
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 28 2014 00:37 GMT
#142
On August 28 2014 08:41 Lorning wrote:
fuk u TTesports

My vote for best post in the thread
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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
August 28 2014 01:23 GMT
#143
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
August 28 2014 01:27 GMT
#144
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 02:07:38
August 28 2014 02:06 GMT
#145
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 28 2014 02:17 GMT
#146
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.

Regardless of your standing in esport, Chaggi has a point. You've written two paragraphs which add nothing to discussion. Good for you that you know more about the situation than the regular poster! If you're not going to share that information or add something to the discussion then why bother posting in this thread?
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SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
August 28 2014 02:49 GMT
#147
OK. Got it. Rip TT.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-28 02:54:25
August 28 2014 02:51 GMT
#148
*deleted cuz that was mean*
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
August 28 2014 03:05 GMT
#149
On August 28 2014 11:17 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.

Regardless of your standing in esport, Chaggi has a point. You've written two paragraphs which add nothing to discussion. Good for you that you know more about the situation than the regular poster! If you're not going to share that information or add something to the discussion then why bother posting in this thread?

Haha plexa, my thoughts exactly. His point was that you typed words but didn't say anything. And yeah... saying "Do you know who I am?" is kind of a douche move.
Wahaha
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
August 28 2014 03:32 GMT
#150
On August 28 2014 12:05 aike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 11:17 Plexa wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.

Regardless of your standing in esport, Chaggi has a point. You've written two paragraphs which add nothing to discussion. Good for you that you know more about the situation than the regular poster! If you're not going to share that information or add something to the discussion then why bother posting in this thread?

Haha plexa, my thoughts exactly. His point was that you typed words but didn't say anything. And yeah... saying "Do you know who I am?" is kind of a douche move.

Alright. Not the first time I've left people with a cliffhanger. I'll just keep my words to myself. Or start getting in to eSports-press.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
zaxx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States66 Posts
August 28 2014 03:55 GMT
#151
On August 28 2014 12:32 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 12:05 aike wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:17 Plexa wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.

Regardless of your standing in esport, Chaggi has a point. You've written two paragraphs which add nothing to discussion. Good for you that you know more about the situation than the regular poster! If you're not going to share that information or add something to the discussion then why bother posting in this thread?

Haha plexa, my thoughts exactly. His point was that you typed words but didn't say anything. And yeah... saying "Do you know who I am?" is kind of a douche move.

Alright. Not the first time I've left people with a cliffhanger. I'll just keep my words to myself. Or start getting in to eSports-press.


Don't think people are as perturbed by the fact that you didn't share information as they are how you made yourself seem like such an ass. There are a lot of people behind the scenes and in the spotlight that make eSports such a good product to view and experience. It's not necessary to state your role in a way that comes across egotistical and self-absorbed. My two cents. Thank you for your contribution to the community, though.
CSA - Cyber Solutions Agency - Co-Founder and Owner ----- Polt -- viOlet
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
August 28 2014 04:03 GMT
#152
On August 28 2014 12:55 zaxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 12:32 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 12:05 aike wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:17 Plexa wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.

Regardless of your standing in esport, Chaggi has a point. You've written two paragraphs which add nothing to discussion. Good for you that you know more about the situation than the regular poster! If you're not going to share that information or add something to the discussion then why bother posting in this thread?

Haha plexa, my thoughts exactly. His point was that you typed words but didn't say anything. And yeah... saying "Do you know who I am?" is kind of a douche move.

Alright. Not the first time I've left people with a cliffhanger. I'll just keep my words to myself. Or start getting in to eSports-press.


Don't think people are as perturbed by the fact that you didn't share information as they are how you made yourself seem like such an ass. There are a lot of people behind the scenes and in the spotlight that make eSports such a good product to view and experience. It's not necessary to state your role in a way that comes across egotistical and self-absorbed. My two cents. Thank you for your contribution to the community, though.

Are you Andrew? I think I got you on skype bro. haha.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
August 28 2014 04:52 GMT
#153
On August 28 2014 12:32 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 12:05 aike wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:17 Plexa wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.

Regardless of your standing in esport, Chaggi has a point. You've written two paragraphs which add nothing to discussion. Good for you that you know more about the situation than the regular poster! If you're not going to share that information or add something to the discussion then why bother posting in this thread?

Haha plexa, my thoughts exactly. His point was that you typed words but didn't say anything. And yeah... saying "Do you know who I am?" is kind of a douche move.

Alright. Not the first time I've left people with a cliffhanger. I'll just keep my words to myself. Or start getting in to eSports-press.


You don't' have thick enough skin for that.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
August 28 2014 06:41 GMT
#154
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.


This isn't unique to esports, bro
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
August 28 2014 15:12 GMT
#155
On August 28 2014 08:33 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 07:18 Ctone23 wrote:
On August 28 2014 07:07 strongandbig wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:55 Ctone23 wrote:
On August 28 2014 06:35 Crot4le wrote:
From Gerrard (Prime staff) "A signature-seeking campaign - TT e-sports didn't paid out the funds they agreed to support Prime and don't say anymore about it after the contract ended. TT e-sports must pay the funds they promised!!!. Dear global e-sports fans, please help us. This kind of matter must not happen again for e-sports' growth, not anymore!!! // Content of a body = http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/463461-tt-esports-withholding-payments-from-prime[3] // Writing on TTesports Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TteSPORTS[4]"

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2eq4fr/kespa_shop_big_signing_event_at_primezzangnet/


We don't know what the agreement said, if clauses existed that TT e-sports felt Prime was in violation of, etc. All of the discussion is purely speculative, when you don't have the signed agreement to look at.


dude read the thread

unless you think kespa is actively lying in posts on tl to drum up irrelevant support from tl posters

this has already been addressed


Or you can read my post. Speculation from a Kespa representative doesn't constitute the agreement made for public view.


What are you expecting? Prime posting a pdf of the entire agreement along with their internal audited expenditures w/ bank account information? Even with formal legal charges and a court ruling the public doesn't get to see any of that.


No I don't expect that. But calling a Kespa rep's word perfectly good is too vague for me to jump on the TT esports smear campaign. You don't know both sides of the story so I would caution before grabbing your pitchforks just because someone on social media says to.
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zaxx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States66 Posts
August 28 2014 18:27 GMT
#156
On August 28 2014 13:03 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 12:55 zaxx wrote:
On August 28 2014 12:32 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 12:05 aike wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:17 Plexa wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:06 BreAKerTV wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:27 Chaggi wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


are you david kim? how do you even type so much without saying literally anything of value

Do you know who I am? I work for TeSL as a World of Tanks caster. A huge chunk of PC peripherals companies are based out in Taiwan: NVIDIA, BenQ, TTeSports (Thermaltake), CM Storm (Cooler Master), ROCCAT, Zowie, Netgear, Acer, MSI, and Zotac and these are just the ones that I have seen with my own two eyes.

What I am telling you is that if you get in with one or two of these companies, you start getting more and more information about things that are going on. I work for one of the companies listed above as an eSports community manager. These companies all keep track of each other and their business. Not only that, but this is a painfully small social circle. It feels like a church community when you are going to many different events in three months where sponsors have booths set up with their products on display and other representatives from each company show up. You see the same faces. All the time.

TL;DR - I know more stuff. Can't talk about it.

Regardless of your standing in esport, Chaggi has a point. You've written two paragraphs which add nothing to discussion. Good for you that you know more about the situation than the regular poster! If you're not going to share that information or add something to the discussion then why bother posting in this thread?

Haha plexa, my thoughts exactly. His point was that you typed words but didn't say anything. And yeah... saying "Do you know who I am?" is kind of a douche move.

Alright. Not the first time I've left people with a cliffhanger. I'll just keep my words to myself. Or start getting in to eSports-press.


Don't think people are as perturbed by the fact that you didn't share information as they are how you made yourself seem like such an ass. There are a lot of people behind the scenes and in the spotlight that make eSports such a good product to view and experience. It's not necessary to state your role in a way that comes across egotistical and self-absorbed. My two cents. Thank you for your contribution to the community, though.

Are you Andrew? I think I got you on skype bro. haha.


No I am not Andrew. I am another partner with CSA. I went to college with Andrew at Texas A&M.
CSA - Cyber Solutions Agency - Co-Founder and Owner ----- Polt -- viOlet
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 17 2014 22:09 GMT
#157
TteSports is also a sponsor of ROOT Gaming and CatZ talks about the Prime situation in this video:

Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
September 18 2014 02:28 GMT
#158
Does this mean I'm not going to be able to get my Tastosis Mouse and Keyboard?
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 18 2014 11:43 GMT
#159
On August 28 2014 10:23 BreAKerTV wrote:
I know for a fact that they aren't just skipping payments on team PRIME. I can't talk about it, but I live in the same country as their HQ. I know the names that are sponsored by them as well.


By that do you mean they are paying Prime or they aren't paying Prime and are ripping off other teams/players in addition to Prime.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 11:55:55
September 18 2014 11:51 GMT
#160
On July 29 2014 14:44 Pharaphobia wrote:
What is exacly TT esports? I mean this company isn't that big to simply do thing like that.. It could not be nail to the coffin for Prime, but TTe getting some bad rep right there... Also I can understand this step if the equipment is one big piece of garbage =)) l2make keyboards plz


TT esports is Thermaltake. It's a big company. They do gaming stuff since the dawn of time. They do cool fans and pc case but that's all i know them for to be good.

Every big company does that at the ends of contracts that aren't being renewed. It's stupid, but basicly it's : "Oh it's our last payment. We'll skip that and see if they get us to court. If they do and we can lose, we'll pay. If not... well. See ya".

I see that all the time. Luckyly (how the hell do i write that word ?), it's rare to see the company not pay. Because they know they need to because of the contract and whatnot. it's like testing the water. Stupid but not uncommon.
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