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Terran Buffs - Balance Testing Soon - July 1 - Page 2

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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
July 01 2014 17:15 GMT
#21
I'd have to see how unload speed would work in practice. My assumption is that it wouldn't make a huge difference. Protoss would still defend in a similar fashion with HT and Zealots and Zerg would just make a second spore. I don't see how longer duration jets would really matter.
Wat
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#22
#bringbackwarhounds.
Morrissey
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Germany55 Posts
July 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#23
mh medivac buff seems a bit strong. maybe it could be an upgrade ?
MarineKingPrime forever
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#24
Don't like the direction of the widow mine buff. I'd prefer manually targeted mines to fire faster. The current widow mines actually punish terran micro. If you focus fire the mines the timer resets and banelings often just kill them without firing.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 17:17:19
July 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#25
2. In terms of recent tournament wins, the three races are performing quite evenly.


Sounds great on paper, but when only 1 Terran wins anything, doesn't seem as nice.

Seems like a knee-jerk reaction, but at least they are listening.

On July 02 2014 02:16 ThomasjServo wrote:
#bringbackwarhounds.


I dreamed a dream.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
July 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#26
Can't compete economically with Zerg and Protoss? Buff medivacs!
Can't defend effectively against Protoss cheese? Buff medivacs!
Can't play greedy or cheesy? Buff medivacs!

While I am overstating the imbalance here, it serves to make a point. Address the actual causes of imbalance and don't use some half-ass patchwork of bandaid-fixes.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
TeflonArena
Profile Joined August 2013
Finland18 Posts
July 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#27
As a Terran player, I really dislike idea of buffing mines and the medivac unloading would make harass easier in a way that it would be easier to cause crippling damage to worker lines, resulting in a game thats too easily decided in 1 second, much like the Oracle buff. Bg, Dkim.
"Enemy team leads 21 - 5? We got this." - derafrhe
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2014 17:19 GMT
#28
Revert stim nerf plz?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
July 01 2014 17:19 GMT
#29
If anything needs an unload speed increase, it's the nydus wyrms. Medivacs are balanced around maps so the focus on that is just... strange. Widow mines could definitely use an aoe buff so mass banes aren't as deadly, but there's still the glaring lack of T3. Why can't Thors get their Strike Cannons back or BCs have reasonable build times?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 01 2014 17:19 GMT
#30
On July 02 2014 02:16 ThomasjServo wrote:
#bringbackwarhounds.

You monster.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
July 01 2014 17:19 GMT
#31
On July 02 2014 02:16 ThomasjServo wrote:
#bringbackwarhounds.


I'd prefer for them to rework the siege tank a bit. Obviously don't bring back flat damage because that lead to boring TvT but do something with the damn thing so it isn't absent from every matchup but TvT.
Wat
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
July 01 2014 17:21 GMT
#32
I really don't like how they are still patching towards the direction "let's give Terran some early/midgame timings so that they come out ahead into the late game and eventually win"

I want a game where all three races can trade even with their endgame compositions, not where a race needs to have advantage to just overrun your opponents and win before the late-lategame.

I really hope they change some things addressing the actual lategame compositions with LotV, I don't think it's going to work out with the units we have right now, as sad as it is.
Have a nice day!
Roboroadkill
Profile Joined August 2013
United States16 Posts
July 01 2014 17:21 GMT
#33
No to medivac buff, yes to widow mine buff.

Terran needs anything right now, either a widow mine buff or a full revert to original widow mine is in order i feel. Mine drops helped keep Protoss from doing stupid stuff and helped Terran deal with mutas.

It was also a more exciting ZVT since it was more or less a mid game focused game of 2 2 ling bane muta vs. 2 2/3 3 Marine mine battling it out for 3 - 4 minutes on end, it was exciting. Now Terran's just turtle on 400 planetaries and turrets while getting mass 3 3 bio while the Zerg gets 40 mutas 3 3, and ultralisks with mass baneling. It is kind of stupid.
Hey guys its roboroadkill
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 01 2014 17:21 GMT
#34
Whilst I am not sure these are the right changes.

I do like that they are buffing Terran, rather than nerfing protoss or zerg.

I don't know the right change, but I don't really like the way this change is blizzard saying"please mine drop, please" I believe this strategy is just a gimmick
Zerg for Life
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
July 01 2014 17:22 GMT
#35
I am fine with wm buff but avoid the buff to lings and banelings. Random splash hits are too strong to low hp and tiny&fast units.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
July 01 2014 17:23 GMT
#36
Why don't they just un nerf widow mines? They never just undo a stupid change they did (oracle speed heheheh)... Buffing medivacs would be pretty stupid though imo.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 01 2014 17:24 GMT
#37
wm core in tvp. good joke.
Zest fanboy.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 01 2014 17:25 GMT
#38
On July 02 2014 02:15 Teoita wrote:
Revert some ghost nerfs plz

Give back OP snipe
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Obeast96
Profile Joined October 2012
United States106 Posts
July 01 2014 17:25 GMT
#39
On July 02 2014 02:19 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 02:16 ThomasjServo wrote:
#bringbackwarhounds.


I'd prefer for them to rework the siege tank a bit. Obviously don't bring back flat damage because that lead to boring TvT but do something with the damn thing so it isn't absent from every matchup but TvT.


So true. Whatever they do, they need to reduce the amount of tanks needed for good trades/cost efficiency. I actually think the base damage would really help change that. Because then, there would actually be a reason to build tanks.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 01 2014 17:25 GMT
#40
On July 02 2014 02:25 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 02:15 Teoita wrote:
Revert some ghost nerfs plz

Give back OP snipe

Yes plz
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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