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On June 21 2014 06:11 Cheeseling wrote: Such a great man he is. I'm so happy that those rumors about Day9 death were fake. LIP Sean Plott!
Well he's leaving to become an accountant... so for SC2 purposes, he is dead.
But I wish him best in his new career, counting numbers. Good luck Day9... maybe you can host a daily show on how to adjust your balance sheets.
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How about a daily where he teaches kids how to count and basic math skills? Wait that job is still filled.
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Good to see day9s still doing good! I hope he does well as an accountant.
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Is day9 still running his day9.tv company? I remember that he said that he has to pay his employees. Is he now on his own again?
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Day9? Leaving?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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He wasn't serious about being an accountant. He better not be serious!!!
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Sounds like he wants a game for the average person.
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On June 21 2014 00:17 radscorpion9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2014 22:49 Plansix wrote: Really liked the interviews, especially the part where he mocked arm chair game designers. Loved the the truth bomb that "we are really bad at predicting what will be fun". The game seems to be on good footing and I am glad they are not taking anything for granted and working from the ground up. People get to hung up with what the believe are the "cores" of a good RTS and it's awesome to see them bore down to the the core of what is fun and what isn't. I can't say I fully agree on this point. I was listening to an interview with Tony Zurovec (the lead designer for the Crusader: No Remorse and No Regret series that made him a bit of a legend), and he talks about how he had this really great, enticing vision for a game with such a solid concept that he could never let go. And I'm sure he playtested it and everything, but he never radically changed any of his core ideas, so to say that people are bad at predicting what will be fun may not necessarily be true for everyone. I'm a bit skeptical as to whether you can really generalize that statement to all game developers. Generalizing is usually something that you should be careful about! And yet you are generalizing You go from one success story to stating that it proves that people can predict, while the more probable possibility is that he just got lucky.
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On June 21 2014 14:19 ElMeanYo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 06:11 Cheeseling wrote: Such a great man he is. I'm so happy that those rumors about Day9 death were fake. LIP Sean Plott! Well he's leaving to become an accountant... so for SC2 purposes, he is dead. But I wish him best in his new career, counting numbers. Good luck Day9... maybe you can host a daily show on how to adjust your balance sheets.
I don't know whats more annoying, him being dead or the new retiring rumor.
This is a good interview regardless, looking forward to whatever project atlas happens to be.
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So is day9 retiring or not? I don't like watching interview videos, the pace is too slow. its much faster to simply read the transcript. that's why i've always preferred reading the news to passively watching the news.
anyway to work at an accounting firm you need a degree in accounting. day9 did not study accounting so i'm guessing this is a terribad troll attempt.
as for games being fun or not, of course its impossible to predict how popular something will be. also, fun and challenging are often times at odds with one another. most of today's games have been dumbed down to cater to the lowest common denominator, aka the console kiddies. example. The vetrans of the fighting game community loved street fighter 2: super turbo. it requires precise execution, knowledge of spacing, frame data, and matchups. The OGs hate sf4 because it dumbed everything down. but sf4 has taken off because it has "fun" pretty graphics and flashy supers. Likewise, guys like me who grew up playing the vs series think marvel vs capcom 2 is a masterpiece that suited multiple play styles from precise zoning keepaway games to fast paced mixups into difficult to execute combos. ditto mvc1 and xvsf. mvc3 ruined all that by giving everyone brain dead ez mode 100% combos. but mvc3 is more popular and "fun"
fun != high skill ceiling
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Okay since people are seemingly not reading the thread and what was a few people taking a joke post seriously has actually turned into lots of people taking a joke post seriously, and people are being misinformed as a result and I don't want this stupid "he's retiring" thing to go further because the "Day9's dead" thing is insanely annoying and we don't need more of that, he said NOTHING about retiring in the interview and the accounting firm thing said on the first page was a well-placed JOKE that was clearly just supposed to be a poke at all the people who would comment without watching the video.
Again, he DID NOT say he was retiring in the interview. He ended it thanking his mom, his fans and subscribers and a few others. As a summary, he talked about his role at Artillery, his roommates, his fans, casting, and a few odds and ends. No retiring. No accounting firms.
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Day[9] > Flash, confirmed!
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I haven't played starcraft in what, 2 years or so? But day9 got a little bit fatter haha.
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On June 22 2014 11:06 fishjie wrote: So is day9 retiring or not? I don't like watching interview videos, the pace is too slow. its much faster to simply read the transcript. that's why i've always preferred reading the news to passively watching the news.
anyway to work at an accounting firm you need a degree in accounting. day9 did not study accounting so i'm guessing this is a terribad troll attempt.
as for games being fun or not, of course its impossible to predict how popular something will be. also, fun and challenging are often times at odds with one another. most of today's games have been dumbed down to cater to the lowest common denominator, aka the console kiddies. example. The vetrans of the fighting game community loved street fighter 2: super turbo. it requires precise execution, knowledge of spacing, frame data, and matchups. The OGs hate sf4 because it dumbed everything down. but sf4 has taken off because it has "fun" pretty graphics and flashy supers. Likewise, guys like me who grew up playing the vs series think marvel vs capcom 2 is a masterpiece that suited multiple play styles from precise zoning keepaway games to fast paced mixups into difficult to execute combos. ditto mvc1 and xvsf. mvc3 ruined all that by giving everyone brain dead ez mode 100% combos. but mvc3 is more popular and "fun"
fun != high skill ceiling
Yes, because every single person in an accounting firm is a CPA. This is proof you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about, so you should probably keep quiet.
Accounting firms do more than just audit financials. Larger firms (Big 4 like Deloitte, KPMG) and smaller firms all have huge consulting arms that do tons of stats and analysis. There are tons of maths/stats/engineers/comp scientists/ non-stem people working at almost every accounting firm. Source: I'm a compsci non-accountant who used to work at a Big-4 accounting firm with maybe 50% accountants.
Your post is so dumb, I'll assume it's a terribad troll attempt. Or you're functionally mentally disabled. I'll go with both.
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Yeyy day9 I wonder if there's going to be a single-player campaign in the game :o
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On June 22 2014 20:48 -ForeverAlone- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 11:06 fishjie wrote: So is day9 retiring or not? I don't like watching interview videos, the pace is too slow. its much faster to simply read the transcript. that's why i've always preferred reading the news to passively watching the news.
anyway to work at an accounting firm you need a degree in accounting. day9 did not study accounting so i'm guessing this is a terribad troll attempt.
as for games being fun or not, of course its impossible to predict how popular something will be. also, fun and challenging are often times at odds with one another. most of today's games have been dumbed down to cater to the lowest common denominator, aka the console kiddies. example. The vetrans of the fighting game community loved street fighter 2: super turbo. it requires precise execution, knowledge of spacing, frame data, and matchups. The OGs hate sf4 because it dumbed everything down. but sf4 has taken off because it has "fun" pretty graphics and flashy supers. Likewise, guys like me who grew up playing the vs series think marvel vs capcom 2 is a masterpiece that suited multiple play styles from precise zoning keepaway games to fast paced mixups into difficult to execute combos. ditto mvc1 and xvsf. mvc3 ruined all that by giving everyone brain dead ez mode 100% combos. but mvc3 is more popular and "fun"
fun != high skill ceiling
Yes, because every single person in an accounting firm is a CPA. This is proof you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about, so you should probably keep quiet. Accounting firms do more than just audit financials. Larger firms (Big 4 like Deloitte, KPMG) and smaller firms all have huge consulting arms that do tons of stats and analysis. There are tons of maths/stats/engineers/comp scientists/ non-stem people working at almost every accounting firm. Source: I'm a compsci non-accountant who used to work at a Big-4 accounting firm with maybe 50% accountants. Your post is so dumb, I'll assume it's a terribad troll attempt. Or you're functionally mentally disabled. I'll go with both. User was warned for this post
oh wow you must be one of those "alpha nerds" who tries to correct people all the time on technicalities in a pathetic attempt to look smart. you're probably hitting f5 on forums, just waiting for the first chance to correct somebody in some attempt to validate their sad existence.
whoop tee doo there are people who work at accounting firms who don't do accounting. WOW there are janitors who work at google and financial analysts who work at mcdonalds. so what? when people say they work at an accounting firm, the default assumption is they are an ACCOUNTANT UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE. either this is a terribad counter troll attempt or you are functionally socially inept because you alienate everyone with your over alpha nerd aggressiveness in real life. either that or you hide behind anonymity and are actually weak, passive and submissive nerd in real life. i'm not sure which one is more sad.
EDIT: actually i just realized your name is forever-alone so I'm going to assume the latter. there's a reason you don't have any friends.
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RIP in pieces accountant day9 no passion game dead RIP sc2 apocalypse now.
Everyone just watch the video.
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Very nice interview, missed day9 in the world of sc2 can't have time for it all i guess.
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On June 23 2014 11:45 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2014 20:48 -ForeverAlone- wrote:On June 22 2014 11:06 fishjie wrote: So is day9 retiring or not? I don't like watching interview videos, the pace is too slow. its much faster to simply read the transcript. that's why i've always preferred reading the news to passively watching the news.
anyway to work at an accounting firm you need a degree in accounting. day9 did not study accounting so i'm guessing this is a terribad troll attempt.
as for games being fun or not, of course its impossible to predict how popular something will be. also, fun and challenging are often times at odds with one another. most of today's games have been dumbed down to cater to the lowest common denominator, aka the console kiddies. example. The vetrans of the fighting game community loved street fighter 2: super turbo. it requires precise execution, knowledge of spacing, frame data, and matchups. The OGs hate sf4 because it dumbed everything down. but sf4 has taken off because it has "fun" pretty graphics and flashy supers. Likewise, guys like me who grew up playing the vs series think marvel vs capcom 2 is a masterpiece that suited multiple play styles from precise zoning keepaway games to fast paced mixups into difficult to execute combos. ditto mvc1 and xvsf. mvc3 ruined all that by giving everyone brain dead ez mode 100% combos. but mvc3 is more popular and "fun"
fun != high skill ceiling
Yes, because every single person in an accounting firm is a CPA. This is proof you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about, so you should probably keep quiet. Accounting firms do more than just audit financials. Larger firms (Big 4 like Deloitte, KPMG) and smaller firms all have huge consulting arms that do tons of stats and analysis. There are tons of maths/stats/engineers/comp scientists/ non-stem people working at almost every accounting firm. Source: I'm a compsci non-accountant who used to work at a Big-4 accounting firm with maybe 50% accountants. Your post is so dumb, I'll assume it's a terribad troll attempt. Or you're functionally mentally disabled. I'll go with both. User was warned for this post oh wow you must be one of those "alpha nerds" who tries to correct people all the time on technicalities in a pathetic attempt to look smart. you're probably hitting f5 on forums, just waiting for the first chance to correct somebody in some attempt to validate their sad existence. whoop tee doo there are people who work at accounting firms who don't do accounting. WOW there are janitors who work at google and financial analysts who work at mcdonalds. so what? when people say they work at an accounting firm, the default assumption is they are an ACCOUNTANT UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE. either this is a terribad counter troll attempt or you are functionally socially inept because you alienate everyone with your over alpha nerd aggressiveness in real life. either that or you hide behind anonymity and are actually weak, passive and submissive nerd in real life. i'm not sure which one is more sad. EDIT: actually i just realized your name is forever-alone so I'm going to assume the latter. there's a reason you don't have any friends.
Despite the way he came across, he's right. You don't need to be a CPA to work in accounting; in fact a quick google search for job postings at a few larger accounting firms reveals there's a ton of majors/degrees that are sought after (including mathematics/statistics especially). He came across as an ass, but that doesn't invalidate his point, nor is it correct to assume everyone that works for an accounting firm is purely an accountant, oddly enough.
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