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Russian Federation4295 Posts
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Shortly - this trick allows you to assign 2 workers to one mineral patch without clicking and without wandering one of workers to another mineral patch.
I've decided to create separated thread for this trick, because it contains two another unpopular tricks also. The first one is assigning 3 and more hotkeys to any of your commands, and the second one is Rapid-fire command, called "Choose Ability or AI Target", which allows you rapid smart cast of any ability in the game without clicking and by just holding one key with mouse cursor over target. Another reason for separated thread is because this trick can be used by all races.
Jakatak already did many videos about Rapid-fire trick, and you can watch most of them on his YouTube channel. Here you can see demonstration of Rapid-fire mining trick.
Method through hotkeys file![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ISJjtIi.png)
- Determine what hotkey you have right now for "Gather" command
- Remember that hotkey and go here:
\ Users \ <Windows username> \ Documents \ StarCraft II \ <YourNickname.000@0> \ <Go up in folders> \ Hotkeys \ .SC2Hotkeys - open it through Notepad
- Find TargetChoose parameter
- Add "Gather" hotkey to this parameter after comma. It should look like this
- Do not change "Choose Ability or AI Target" hotkeys in the game options, otherwise it will revert number of hotkeys for this command to default two ones. Since you may use it for many different actions (e.g. creep spread or inject), it may have 3 or more hotkeys
- In the game try to test it. Select two workers and assign them to one mineral patch. One of workers usually will try to gather minerals from the nearest mineral patch, so select this wandering worker and hold Gather command while mouse overing mineral patch. You will see that wandering worker will not go away from mineral patch even a millimeter
Method through ingame settings
- Determine what hotkey you have right now for "Gather" command. You can view it through ingame hotkeys.
- Find "Choose Ability or AI Target" command in General in your Hotkey options
- Bind "Gather" hotkey to that "Choose target" command
- In the game try to test it. Select two workers and assign them to one mineral patch. One of workers usually will try to gather minerals from the nearest mineral patch, so select this wandering worker and hold Gather command while mouse overing mineral patch. You will see that wandering worker will not go away from mineral patch even a millimeter
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Is this tournament legal? like if i were going to go to a lan would i be able to do this?
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Canada8159 Posts
On May 07 2014 07:54 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Is this tournament legal? like if i were going to go to a lan would i be able to do this?
same questions
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"[Settings]
[Hotkeys]
ArmySelect=OEM8
TargetChoose=LeftMouseButton,C
CameraSave0=Control+F2
CameraSave1=Control+F3
CameraSave2=Control+F4
CameraSave3=Control+F5
CameraSave4=Control+F6
CameraSave5=Control+F7
CameraSave6=Control+F8
CameraView0=F2
CameraView1=F3
CameraView2=F4
CameraView3=F5
CameraView4=F6
CameraView5=F7
CameraView6=F8
[Commands]
Transfusion/Queen=T"
My Hotkey document only has this in it :/, any ideas why?
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This sounds like its outside of the blizz parameters of not tampering with the in game set up, as per their ToSA. Idk about this, and I wouldn't really think this would be a good thing to abuse.
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worker stacking isnt even hard, really the game mechanics are already too easy compared to broodwar. why make it worse?
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On May 07 2014 07:54 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Is this tournament legal? like if i were going to go to a lan would i be able to do this?
Configuring your hotkeys is illegal? Such a strange question.
My Hotkey document only has this in it :/, any ideas why?
You can have other commands with different hotkeys. You have TargetChoose and can assing any hotkeys to it, or replace C, or add other hotkeys to it with commas
worker stacking isnt even hard, really the game mechanics are already too easy compared to broodwar. why make it worse?
Worser or simpler?
This sounds like its outside of the blizz parameters of not tampering with the in game set up, as per their ToSA. Idk about this, and I wouldn't really think this would be a good thing to abuse.
Blizzard tech support recommends you to modify variables.txt when it's needed. Those parameters are just flat-text representation of your ingame hotkey settings. No difference where you can configure them - in the game settings or via text file.
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Pros do stuff like this all the time, if you're still wondering if it's tournament legal ask your tournament admin.
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On May 07 2014 08:36 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 07:54 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Is this tournament legal? like if i were going to go to a lan would i be able to do this? Configuring your hotkeys is illegal? Such a strange question.
Obviously this is a little more than just changing hotkeys, since you're modifying a game file. It seems to me that any change Blizzard intended a user to be able to make it, would be an option in the game UI. If you go outside the game UI, you're requiring special knowledge in order to gain an in-game advantage over someone who does not have the special knowledge.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Obviously this is a little more than just changing hotkeys, since you're modifying a game file
Modifying variables and hotkey files is legal, since those files are your personal files that are located on Documents. TOS is against modifying ingame files, that are located in SC2 folder.
You can't edit ingame UI or do any cheating through your personal Documents/StarCraft 2 folder, since that folder contains only your ingame settings, replays, custom observer interfaces, hotkeys, screenshots.
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Northern Ireland26177 Posts
On May 07 2014 08:04 NFxJehuty wrote:
"[Settings]
[Hotkeys]
ArmySelect=OEM8
TargetChoose=LeftMouseButton,C
CameraSave0=Control+F2
CameraSave1=Control+F3
CameraSave2=Control+F4
CameraSave3=Control+F5
CameraSave4=Control+F6
CameraSave5=Control+F7
CameraSave6=Control+F8
CameraView0=F2
CameraView1=F3
CameraView2=F4
CameraView3=F5
CameraView4=F6
CameraView5=F7
CameraView6=F8
[Commands]
Transfusion/Queen=T"
My Hotkey document only has this in it :/, any ideas why?
Those aren't the default ones right? Only thing I can think of is that it's only got the changes you've made from the defaults in that particular file?
Cool trick, seems a bit minimal in terms of difference made and I enjoy my mineral rally spam but it is cool to see experiments in making certain commands more efficient
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Those aren't the default ones right?
Those hotkeys you can bind through ingame options. Once you bind them, they appear in this file. So if you bind through this file, they will appear as bound hotkeys in game settings too. Nothing magic, illegal or special here.
Only thing I can think of is that it's only got the changes you've made from the defaults in that particular file?
Yes, it shows you only modified hotkeys. If there are no hotkeys - it uses default ones that current hotkey scheme uses as basis. Remember when you're creating new hotkey scheme you selecting base hotkey profile after name?
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greatest discovery of all time.
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i wil give a try
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Northern Ireland26177 Posts
Edit- Nvm didn't read properly
You explained what I was trying to articulate only a lot more clearly Existor
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Norway839 Posts
This could be named 'rapid fire worker stacking' instead of 'rapid fire mining', might be more accurate and to the purpose of the technique 
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This... seems pretty useful. Good find
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On May 07 2014 09:38 Liquid`Snute wrote:This could be named 'rapid fire worker stacking' instead of 'rapid fire mining', might be more accurate and to the purpose of the technique
Probably you're right, but Rapid-fire Mining sounds more like "Wow wow, there is another interesting trick", when "Rapid-fire Worker stacking" isn't that clear for newer players
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On May 07 2014 09:38 Liquid`Snute wrote:This could be named 'rapid fire worker stacking' instead of 'rapid fire mining', might be more accurate and to the purpose of the technique
why not call it ' Ultra Rapid Fire Worker Stacking' ))
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Good find, but I think this would be working against you. I mean you are basically saying that you want to keep pressed ur gather key while keeping ur mouse cursor over the mineral patch till the worker starts working after the first one. What advantage do you actually gain doing all that ? You still have ur apm availability tied till the 2nd worker starts mining, and only thing I can see is that you might PREFER to do it that way, but honestly I dont think thats easier in any way. I actually think is preference, cuz myself id find it annoying having to keep a keyboard pressed, and im fine just spaming right click. And for pros, tournaments they wouldnt allow them to modify any files at all.
tldr: I think you gain no advantage from it, and at most it could be a personal preference thing. You still have your actions tied till the 2nd worker starts mining.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
What advantage do you actually gain doing all that ?
You just not clicking and worker does not trying to go away. There is no single word about advatange from it. It just makes your life a bit less annoying by lowering one of small annoying things
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