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phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
April 21 2014 14:04 GMT
#401
yeah really horrible rule, if you cant win and feel bad about it, no one should deny you the possibility to let all other people involved, feel the same thing !
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
April 21 2014 14:08 GMT
#402
On April 21 2014 23:04 phil.ipp wrote:
yeah really horrible rule, if you cant win and feel bad about it, no one should deny you the possibility to let all other people involved, feel the same thing !

When you run an event that has a schedule and people can screw it up massively, then get back to the rest of us.
It's a rule designed to have an event which finishes. Think about everyone else other than the one player deliberately trying to cause stalemates. It's an event which has a set time in which it needs to be completed. Therefore they need to prevent crap like multiple 2 hour games destroying the schedule.
HOLY CHECK!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 14:18:13
April 21 2014 14:17 GMT
#403
On April 21 2014 23:08 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 23:04 phil.ipp wrote:
yeah really horrible rule, if you cant win and feel bad about it, no one should deny you the possibility to let all other people involved, feel the same thing !

When you run an event that has a schedule and people can screw it up massively, then get back to the rest of us.
It's a rule designed to have an event which finishes. Think about everyone else other than the one player deliberately trying to cause stalemates. It's an event which has a set time in which it needs to be completed. Therefore they need to prevent crap like multiple 2 hour games destroying the schedule.


Ever heard the saying "Don't hate the player, hate the game"?

It is very true in this instance. It isn't the players fault he can delay, it is the games fault. There shouldn't be strategies in the game, available to the player that reward that. Swarm Hosts never should have been released in the state they are in. They were meant to give Zerg the ability to finish opponents in the mid game according to Blizzard...
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 21 2014 14:50 GMT
#404
still if you are beaten just gg instead of dicking around for hours.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
April 21 2014 14:52 GMT
#405
On April 21 2014 23:50 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
still if you are beaten just gg instead of dicking around for hours.

He wasn't beaten...
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 21 2014 14:55 GMT
#406
On April 21 2014 23:52 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 23:50 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
still if you are beaten just gg instead of dicking around for hours.

He wasn't beaten...

tahts not what op says :
he was deliberately trying to cause a stalemate both games, he could never win game 1 or game 2 but i was still mining and trying my best to stop him from doing this but nothing worked, he had a chance the first game and it was a rematch but he did the same game 2 i think it was fair what they did.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Ourk
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom298 Posts
April 21 2014 14:56 GMT
#407
On April 21 2014 23:52 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 23:50 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
still if you are beaten just gg instead of dicking around for hours.

He wasn't beaten...


the game was over he just moved everything to his base to force a draw, he did that twice....
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 21 2014 15:06 GMT
#408
I'd have to agree with the call made by the organizers.
Yes ok, as a competitor miniraiser should have done all he can not to lose, but what he did was just unsportsmanship like conduct.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
April 21 2014 15:09 GMT
#409
I remember SlayerS_BoxeR playing for a stalemate at that one MLG against Rain in like 2011 or something. Everyone was so excited when the casters realized what he was doing. "OHHHHH Boxer u so smart!" But I guess playing for a swarm host stalemate isn't as exciting.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 15:26:53
April 21 2014 15:16 GMT
#410
On April 22 2014 00:09 MichaelDonovan wrote:
I remember SlayerS_BoxeR playing for a stalemate at that one MLG against Rain in like 2011 or something. Everyone was so excited when the casters realized what he was doing. "OHHHHH Boxer u so smart!" But I guess playing for a swarm host stalemate isn't as exciting.

And he didn't do it twice in a row, having been given one regame already and take a total of 3+ hours. So uh yeah it doesn;t sound like it was exciting.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 21 2014 15:18 GMT
#411
Best news in quite a while. I hope that every major tournament from now on uses that rule
Everyday Girl's Day~!
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
April 21 2014 15:38 GMT
#412
are there replays of the game :D
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 15:59:40
April 21 2014 15:59 GMT
#413
On April 22 2014 00:09 MichaelDonovan wrote:
I remember SlayerS_BoxeR playing for a stalemate at that one MLG against Rain in like 2011 or something. Everyone was so excited when the casters realized what he was doing. "OHHHHH Boxer u so smart!" But I guess playing for a swarm host stalemate isn't as exciting.


This just in: Swarm Host turtling with 200 spores and vipers is much more stupid than an attempt at a draw TvT! Who knew??
I mean how does Terran even try to force a draw against Terran right from the start of the game??
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
SpawnMoarOverlords
Profile Joined April 2014
400 Posts
April 21 2014 16:09 GMT
#414
On April 22 2014 00:59 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 00:09 MichaelDonovan wrote:
I remember SlayerS_BoxeR playing for a stalemate at that one MLG against Rain in like 2011 or something. Everyone was so excited when the casters realized what he was doing. "OHHHHH Boxer u so smart!" But I guess playing for a swarm host stalemate isn't as exciting.


This just in: Swarm Host turtling with 200 spores and vipers is much more stupid than an attempt at a draw TvT! Who knew??
I mean how does Terran even try to force a draw against Terran right from the start of the game??



The answer is : Rain is Protoss.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
April 21 2014 16:09 GMT
#415
On April 22 2014 00:59 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 00:09 MichaelDonovan wrote:
I remember SlayerS_BoxeR playing for a stalemate at that one MLG against Rain in like 2011 or something. Everyone was so excited when the casters realized what he was doing. "OHHHHH Boxer u so smart!" But I guess playing for a swarm host stalemate isn't as exciting.


This just in: Swarm Host turtling with 200 spores and vipers is much more stupid than an attempt at a draw TvT! Who knew??
I mean how does Terran even try to force a draw against Terran right from the start of the game??

Rain is Protoss.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 21 2014 16:10 GMT
#416
On April 22 2014 01:09 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 00:59 Figgy wrote:
On April 22 2014 00:09 MichaelDonovan wrote:
I remember SlayerS_BoxeR playing for a stalemate at that one MLG against Rain in like 2011 or something. Everyone was so excited when the casters realized what he was doing. "OHHHHH Boxer u so smart!" But I guess playing for a swarm host stalemate isn't as exciting.


This just in: Swarm Host turtling with 200 spores and vipers is much more stupid than an attempt at a draw TvT! Who knew??
I mean how does Terran even try to force a draw against Terran right from the start of the game??

Rain is Protoss.


No, this is the old Terran Rain, not the Kespa one. Note the year: 2011, before Kespa joined SC2.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
April 21 2014 16:11 GMT
#417
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 16:17:46
April 21 2014 16:16 GMT
#418
the game was over he just moved everything to his base to force a draw, he did that twice....

If he did it succesfully, then he wasn't beaten.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 21 2014 16:22 GMT
#419
On April 22 2014 01:16 ejozl wrote:
Show nested quote +
the game was over he just moved everything to his base to force a draw, he did that twice....

If he did it succesfully, then he wasn't beaten.

and according to the rules he could be given the loss by admins for doing so... gg
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
April 21 2014 20:38 GMT
#420
On April 22 2014 01:22 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 01:16 ejozl wrote:
the game was over he just moved everything to his base to force a draw, he did that twice....

If he did it succesfully, then he wasn't beaten.

and according to the rules he could be given the loss by admins for doing so... gg


People don't even know the game that's being refered to what's the point.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
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