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Oz, HyuN, Alicia, Revival to WCS AM quarterfinals - Page 2

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Prolet
Profile Joined July 2012
United States37 Posts
April 06 2014 06:01 GMT
#21
On April 06 2014 14:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
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On April 06 2014 14:16 Prolet wrote:
Huk clearly not quality any longer. 2-0 by Neeb? I know they keep players longer than they are competitive in the scene due to personality etc., but even that is questionable at this point. Releasing Revival and Oz was a mistake. I guess they don't have enough "bad boy" or character to sell the sponsors? EG lost a lot of attention Stephano retirement, in my opinion.


Do we know enough about the release of Revival or Oz to say that it was because they didn't LIKE them? That's a pretty bold statement to make. As far as attention goes, Stephano was giving them a lot of attention by both being the "foreign hope" and an absolute monster in WoL. He retired and a lot of their other players weren't quite drawing in the attention like Stephano used to for one reason or another.

As far as HuK goes, he did really well in the Ro32 but fell short today. He beat TOP and HerO which wasn't an easy task.


Yes, my statement is bold in some ways, regarding the release of Oz and Revival. Stephano became "foreign hope" because of his ability to go toe to toe with top Koreans, aka being a top tier player. In addition, he had a great personality that seemed to draw attention as well. In essence, he was the perfect player. He left the scene in good form, leaving us wanting more, rather than fading and fizzling out. Stephano continues to stream, drawing more if not the most viewers.

HuK has not placed well in a high profile tournament since 2012, I believe. It's been two years. TOP has not been relevant for even longer than HuK. I thought he retired? HerO is a strong player. HuK has always had strong PvP. I suppose it just surprises me because Protoss is doing very well in GSL/Proleague right now.
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
April 06 2014 06:01 GMT
#22
On April 06 2014 14:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 14:16 Prolet wrote:
Huk clearly not quality any longer. 2-0 by Neeb? I know they keep players longer than they are competitive in the scene due to personality etc., but even that is questionable at this point. Releasing Revival and Oz was a mistake. I guess they don't have enough "bad boy" or character to sell the sponsors? EG lost a lot of attention Stephano retirement, in my opinion.


Do we know enough about the release of Revival or Oz to say that it was because they didn't LIKE them? That's a pretty bold statement to make. ...


demuslim tweeted "go huk and neeb!" during the matches that was shown on screen, not even for his old teammate revival. i dont even think he realized revival and oz were on EG!

thats not to say EG management didnt like them either. but we always knew it werent only results oriented/talented players that EG goes after.
perrysnagy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States32 Posts
April 06 2014 06:25 GMT
#23
On April 06 2014 15:01 DaftFunk wrote:
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On April 06 2014 14:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
On April 06 2014 14:16 Prolet wrote:
Huk clearly not quality any longer. 2-0 by Neeb? I know they keep players longer than they are competitive in the scene due to personality etc., but even that is questionable at this point. Releasing Revival and Oz was a mistake. I guess they don't have enough "bad boy" or character to sell the sponsors? EG lost a lot of attention Stephano retirement, in my opinion.


Do we know enough about the release of Revival or Oz to say that it was because they didn't LIKE them? That's a pretty bold statement to make. ...


demuslim tweeted "go huk and neeb!" during the matches that was shown on screen, not even for his old teammate revival. i dont even think he realized revival and oz were on EG!

thats not to say EG management didnt like them either. but we always knew it werent only results oriented/talented players that EG goes after.


EG picked up Oz Revival and Alive to round out their ProLeauge roster. Now they are not in SPL anymore.... It makes sense for them to be dropped from a managements point of view.
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
April 06 2014 06:45 GMT
#24
I feel like Oz, unlike Alive, and partially unlike Revival, is pretty marketable. I'm sad that EG didn't feel the same way.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 06 2014 06:59 GMT
#25
On April 06 2014 11:44 Noocta wrote:
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On April 06 2014 11:00 Tanzklaue wrote:
I wonder if EG regrets releasing at least oz and revival as both of them show that they are still top notch players.

btw. oz wants a team that is like a family. liquid has a reputation for being a team like a family. GET ON IT NAZGUL!


Being good is not as valuable as being marketable.


When will people realize this...

Most likely what helped them is that they were in Korea while EG-TL was in ProLeague, but with that gone it made sense from EG's viewpoint to drop them.

On April 06 2014 14:29 IntoTheheart wrote:

As far as HuK goes, he did really well in the Ro32 but fell short today. He beat TOP and HerO which wasn't an easy task.


That was XiGua, not oGsTOP and not Top the Chinese Protoss. HuK didn't get to play Top in that group.
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NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
April 06 2014 07:05 GMT
#26
HuK retirement or switching games incoming...
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Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
April 06 2014 07:34 GMT
#27
I don't know what HuK is doing on the team. Where did that amazing talent to perform go? IT's not like he has no training partners. Why can't he improve and show results? Why is even being sponsored? Just because they signed an unbinding contract that says he gets a six figure salary for these many years and can't change teams or do anything else? He did great when he was in TL then just went down hill. Such a waste of talent and potential but mostly lack of will power.
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
April 06 2014 07:40 GMT
#28
wow HuK makes 6 figures? thats amazing
azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 08:12:17
April 06 2014 08:10 GMT
#29
Didnt Blizz want to make rules so that koreans dont flood foreign qualifiers anymore? I mean, i understand when koreans advance in those tournaments, but its pretty useless when there are even like 2 to 3 times more koreans in AMERICAN qualifier than native players.

Cant be so hard to limit these pre-tournament stages to players which are actually living in those countries. Maybe give koreans in their countries twice the slot capacity but forbit them to take the easy foreign route.
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 10:31:03
April 06 2014 09:34 GMT
#30
On April 06 2014 11:44 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 11:00 Tanzklaue wrote:
I wonder if EG regrets releasing at least oz and revival as both of them show that they are still top notch players.

btw. oz wants a team that is like a family. liquid has a reputation for being a team like a family. GET ON IT NAZGUL!


Being good is not as valuable as being marketable.

correct. how are people still posting in this thread and not understanding this? huk has no obligation to retire or quit SC2 until the industry ceases to deem him marketable. he's been so popular in the NA scene for so long that he could probably get an esports job after retiring if he wanted. do people actually think that being the best at a video game entitles you to more contract money than someone of lesser skill?

if it weren't fair for huk to be making so much money then people wouldn't follow him and they wouldn't be interested in him. the point of any sport as a business is to be an entertainment industry, and overall game skill is only one component of the entertainment equation

if you want to open up the "fair amount of money" can of worms, i could easily argue that it's not fair for anyone to make 6 figures playing computer games while orphans are starving. nothing in life is "fair"
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 06 2014 09:42 GMT
#31
Captain America gonna rep the US
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
April 06 2014 10:16 GMT
#32
On April 06 2014 14:16 Prolet wrote:
Huk clearly not quality any longer. 2-0 by Neeb? I know they keep players longer than they are competitive in the scene due to personality etc., but even that is questionable at this point. Releasing Revival and Oz was a mistake. I guess they don't have enough "bad boy" or character to sell the sponsors? EG lost a lot of attention Stephano retirement, in my opinion.


Or, y'know, the 26 hour flight might have something to do with it.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 06 2014 18:34 GMT
#33
On April 06 2014 16:40 JohnChoi wrote:
wow HuK makes 6 figures? thats amazing


Post your source or GTFO
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juusoko
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland79 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 18:41:04
April 06 2014 18:40 GMT
#34
I thought it was common knowledge that Warhammer figures were accepted as currency in E-Sports. Just need to tie them to bitcoins and voila!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 06 2014 18:41 GMT
#35
On April 06 2014 19:16 Sirrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 14:16 Prolet wrote:
Huk clearly not quality any longer. 2-0 by Neeb? I know they keep players longer than they are competitive in the scene due to personality etc., but even that is questionable at this point. Releasing Revival and Oz was a mistake. I guess they don't have enough "bad boy" or character to sell the sponsors? EG lost a lot of attention Stephano retirement, in my opinion.


Or, y'know, the 26 hour flight might have something to do with it.

Huk didn't make that excuse as far as I know and Neeb had to fly from the US as well.
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