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On March 22 2014 07:55 tokinho wrote:
best foreigner.. lol.. not even the best foreign protoss. Sase better. Too bad sase not given the chance to compete as much as Naniwa. Naniwa's self proclaimed best foreigner title. What a joke.. Just gave himself that because protoss is stronk in hots. Stephano was better than Naniwa will ever be.
I would rather have state or sase as my player. How does Naniwa forget it took stephano when zerg was op to stop him after getting through the korean gauntlet.
TLO,Dayshi, Vortix has more points in wcs than Naniwa. They have all won tourneys.
TL named him best foreigner in the TL awards 2914....
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On March 22 2014 08:04 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 07:55 tokinho wrote:
best foreigner.. lol.. not even the best foreign protoss. Sase better. Too bad sase not given the chance to compete as much as Naniwa. Naniwa's self proclaimed best foreigner title. What a joke.. Just gave himself that because protoss is stronk in hots. Stephano was better than Naniwa will ever be.
I would rather have state or sase as my player. How does Naniwa forget it took stephano when zerg was op to stop him after getting through the korean gauntlet.
TLO,Dayshi, Vortix has more points in wcs than Naniwa. They have all won tourneys. TL named him best foreigner in the TL awards 2914....
I don't think even Naniwa can live that long, nor can Waxangel see that far into the future.
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On March 22 2014 07:55 tokinho wrote:
best foreigner.. lol.. not even the best foreign protoss. Sase better. Too bad sase not given the chance to compete as much as Naniwa. Naniwa's self proclaimed best foreigner title. What a joke.. Just gave himself that because protoss is stronk in hots. Stephano was better than Naniwa will ever be.
I would rather have state or sase as my player. How does Naniwa forget it took stephano when zerg was op to stop him after getting through the korean gauntlet.
TLO,Dayshi, Vortix has more points in wcs than Naniwa. They have all won tourneys.
I must admit, that's a nice troll dude, I almost fell for it
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On March 22 2014 08:06 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 08:04 sc2holar wrote:On March 22 2014 07:55 tokinho wrote:
best foreigner.. lol.. not even the best foreign protoss. Sase better. Too bad sase not given the chance to compete as much as Naniwa. Naniwa's self proclaimed best foreigner title. What a joke.. Just gave himself that because protoss is stronk in hots. Stephano was better than Naniwa will ever be.
I would rather have state or sase as my player. How does Naniwa forget it took stephano when zerg was op to stop him after getting through the korean gauntlet.
TLO,Dayshi, Vortix has more points in wcs than Naniwa. They have all won tourneys. TL named him best foreigner in the TL awards 2914.... I don't think even Naniwa can live that long, nor can Waxangel see that far into the future.
I laughed, thanks.
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On March 22 2014 07:55 tokinho wrote:
best foreigner.. lol.. not even the best foreign protoss. Sase better. Too bad sase not given the chance to compete as much as Naniwa. Naniwa's self proclaimed best foreigner title. What a joke.. Just gave himself that because protoss is stronk in hots. Stephano was better than Naniwa will ever be.
I would rather have state or sase as my player. How does Naniwa forget it took stephano when zerg was op to stop him after getting through the korean gauntlet.
TLO,Dayshi, Vortix has more points in wcs than Naniwa. They have all won tourneys.
Naniwa has won 2 premier tournaments and he was the only foreigner to make it to Blizzcon last year, which means he had the most WCS points last year as a foreigner. He is also one of the few foreigners to make it to GSL round of 8, which he did two times. Stephano never made it past round of 32.
You can hate Naniwa all you want. I have never been huge fan of him and I used to hope he would just lose, but he kept winning and proved himself as the best foreign protoss. He definitely is not the best right now, but you got to give this guy credit for what he has accomplished as a player.
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sigh naniwa - always your own worst enemy
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What a deluded fool...the arrogance is breathtaking. Nani - where will you be in 10 years dude? I'm worried and I don't even know (or like) your progaming persona.
GL to you man, cos we all know you're gonna need it.
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On March 22 2014 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:Entire crowd booed him. Clearly they disagree with you. I as a team owner disagree with you. Had any of my players done that on that stage I would have fired them immediately. It was bad enough when CranK overslept and missed an open bracket game at an MLG, management took full responsibility for that. Then there was the issue of his lackluster play against his team-mate in WCS, there were consequences for that too. The bad publicity we received from both, well there are people who still bring up the WCS thing and that was a year ago and RO16 of a WCS America, not the biggest stage in Starcraft with $100k winner takes all. How your player acts reflects directly on the team. They are contracted to do a job and they are expected to perform their duties to a certain standard. In doing so they represent the team and their sponsors. Anything that player does which generates bad publicity reflects poorly on all of the above. This was the most severe thing I've ever seen an SC2 player do in his capacity as a player and in the context of a tournament environment. Nothing in the last 4 years comes close. So yeah, to say forfeits are not that big a deal shows an awful lot of ignorance about how the pro-scene works and how teams operate.
Did Ryung ever get in trouble internally or externally for his Imba frustrations against Sniper in the GSL RO4 or not? Just asking out of curiosity.
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On March 22 2014 08:58 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:forfits are not that big of a deal. Entire crowd booed him. Clearly they disagree with you. I as a team owner disagree with you. Had any of my players done that on that stage I would have fired them immediately. It was bad enough when CranK overslept and missed an open bracket game at an MLG, management took full responsibility for that. Then there was the issue of his lackluster play against his team-mate in WCS, there were consequences for that too. The bad publicity we received from both, well there are people who still bring up the WCS thing and that was a year ago and RO16 of a WCS America, not the biggest stage in Starcraft with $100k winner takes all. How your player acts reflects directly on the team. They are contracted to do a job and they are expected to perform their duties to a certain standard. In doing so they represent the team and their sponsors. Anything that player does which generates bad publicity reflects poorly on all of the above. This was the most severe thing I've ever seen an SC2 player do in his capacity as a player and in the context of a tournament environment. Nothing in the last 4 years comes close. So yeah, to say forfeits are not that big a deal shows an awful lot of ignorance about how the pro-scene works and how teams operate. Did Ryung ever get in trouble internally or externally for his Imba frustrations against Sniper in the GSL RO4 or not? Just asking out of curiosity.
TB bought Ryung dinner at the Cheesecake Factory for that from what I remember.
Yep:
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On March 22 2014 08:58 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:forfits are not that big of a deal. Entire crowd booed him. Clearly they disagree with you. I as a team owner disagree with you. Had any of my players done that on that stage I would have fired them immediately. It was bad enough when CranK overslept and missed an open bracket game at an MLG, management took full responsibility for that. Then there was the issue of his lackluster play against his team-mate in WCS, there were consequences for that too. The bad publicity we received from both, well there are people who still bring up the WCS thing and that was a year ago and RO16 of a WCS America, not the biggest stage in Starcraft with $100k winner takes all. How your player acts reflects directly on the team. They are contracted to do a job and they are expected to perform their duties to a certain standard. In doing so they represent the team and their sponsors. Anything that player does which generates bad publicity reflects poorly on all of the above. This was the most severe thing I've ever seen an SC2 player do in his capacity as a player and in the context of a tournament environment. Nothing in the last 4 years comes close. So yeah, to say forfeits are not that big a deal shows an awful lot of ignorance about how the pro-scene works and how teams operate. Did Ryung ever get in trouble internally or externally for his Imba frustrations against Sniper in the GSL RO4 or not? Just asking out of curiosity.
He was sanctioned by GOM, Mr Chae personally expressed his disappointment directly to Ryung for his behavior. The tweet was obviously a joke as I hope everyone realised. Pretty much the opposite of a forfeit though, Ryung played his heart out.
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On March 22 2014 07:55 tokinho wrote:
best foreigner.. lol.. not even the best foreign protoss. Sase better. Too bad sase not given the chance to compete as much as Naniwa. Naniwa's self proclaimed best foreigner title. What a joke.. Just gave himself that because protoss is stronk in hots. Stephano was better than Naniwa will ever be.
I would rather have state or sase as my player. How does Naniwa forget it took stephano when zerg was op to stop him after getting through the korean gauntlet.
TLO,Dayshi, Vortix has more points in wcs than Naniwa. They have all won tourneys.
Sase has won one series against a Korean in the latter half of 2013/2014, and it was against Daisy, whose overall win rate is under 50%. What?
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On March 22 2014 09:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 08:58 AWalker9 wrote:On March 22 2014 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:forfits are not that big of a deal. Entire crowd booed him. Clearly they disagree with you. I as a team owner disagree with you. Had any of my players done that on that stage I would have fired them immediately. It was bad enough when CranK overslept and missed an open bracket game at an MLG, management took full responsibility for that. Then there was the issue of his lackluster play against his team-mate in WCS, there were consequences for that too. The bad publicity we received from both, well there are people who still bring up the WCS thing and that was a year ago and RO16 of a WCS America, not the biggest stage in Starcraft with $100k winner takes all. How your player acts reflects directly on the team. They are contracted to do a job and they are expected to perform their duties to a certain standard. In doing so they represent the team and their sponsors. Anything that player does which generates bad publicity reflects poorly on all of the above. This was the most severe thing I've ever seen an SC2 player do in his capacity as a player and in the context of a tournament environment. Nothing in the last 4 years comes close. So yeah, to say forfeits are not that big a deal shows an awful lot of ignorance about how the pro-scene works and how teams operate. Did Ryung ever get in trouble internally or externally for his Imba frustrations against Sniper in the GSL RO4 or not? Just asking out of curiosity. He was sanctioned by GOM, Mr Chae personally expressed his disappointment directly to Ryung for his behavior. The tweet was obviously a joke as I hope everyone realised. Pretty much the opposite of a forfeit though, Ryung played his heart out.
The cheese cake factory is no joke. It could take him days to recover. So much dairy. The number of options on the menu alone can cause a brain aneurysm.
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On March 22 2014 09:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 08:58 AWalker9 wrote:On March 22 2014 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:forfits are not that big of a deal. Entire crowd booed him. Clearly they disagree with you. I as a team owner disagree with you. Had any of my players done that on that stage I would have fired them immediately. It was bad enough when CranK overslept and missed an open bracket game at an MLG, management took full responsibility for that. Then there was the issue of his lackluster play against his team-mate in WCS, there were consequences for that too. The bad publicity we received from both, well there are people who still bring up the WCS thing and that was a year ago and RO16 of a WCS America, not the biggest stage in Starcraft with $100k winner takes all. How your player acts reflects directly on the team. They are contracted to do a job and they are expected to perform their duties to a certain standard. In doing so they represent the team and their sponsors. Anything that player does which generates bad publicity reflects poorly on all of the above. This was the most severe thing I've ever seen an SC2 player do in his capacity as a player and in the context of a tournament environment. Nothing in the last 4 years comes close. So yeah, to say forfeits are not that big a deal shows an awful lot of ignorance about how the pro-scene works and how teams operate. Did Ryung ever get in trouble internally or externally for his Imba frustrations against Sniper in the GSL RO4 or not? Just asking out of curiosity. He was sanctioned by GOM, Mr Chae personally expressed his disappointment directly to Ryung for his behavior. The tweet was obviously a joke as I hope everyone realised. Pretty much the opposite of a forfeit though, Ryung played his heart out.
On December 01 2012 16:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 15:48 Zealot Lord wrote:
the interesting thing is, pretty sure that if Ryung got a fine, a good majority of the community would raise money to pay it for him lol xD If RyunG got fined I'd pay for it myself without hesitation. As a sponsor I'd rather the players I pay speak their minds, it represents my company well, since we built it on exactly that.
Did sanctions include a fine and did you pay it?
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There's nothing professional about the kid, so there isn't much use to having him on a pro team. Kid's got talent, but you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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On March 22 2014 09:39 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 09:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 22 2014 08:58 AWalker9 wrote:On March 22 2014 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:forfits are not that big of a deal. Entire crowd booed him. Clearly they disagree with you. I as a team owner disagree with you. Had any of my players done that on that stage I would have fired them immediately. It was bad enough when CranK overslept and missed an open bracket game at an MLG, management took full responsibility for that. Then there was the issue of his lackluster play against his team-mate in WCS, there were consequences for that too. The bad publicity we received from both, well there are people who still bring up the WCS thing and that was a year ago and RO16 of a WCS America, not the biggest stage in Starcraft with $100k winner takes all. How your player acts reflects directly on the team. They are contracted to do a job and they are expected to perform their duties to a certain standard. In doing so they represent the team and their sponsors. Anything that player does which generates bad publicity reflects poorly on all of the above. This was the most severe thing I've ever seen an SC2 player do in his capacity as a player and in the context of a tournament environment. Nothing in the last 4 years comes close. So yeah, to say forfeits are not that big a deal shows an awful lot of ignorance about how the pro-scene works and how teams operate. Did Ryung ever get in trouble internally or externally for his Imba frustrations against Sniper in the GSL RO4 or not? Just asking out of curiosity. He was sanctioned by GOM, Mr Chae personally expressed his disappointment directly to Ryung for his behavior. The tweet was obviously a joke as I hope everyone realised. Pretty much the opposite of a forfeit though, Ryung played his heart out. Show nested quote +On December 01 2012 16:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 01 2012 15:48 Zealot Lord wrote:
the interesting thing is, pretty sure that if Ryung got a fine, a good majority of the community would raise money to pay it for him lol xD If RyunG got fined I'd pay for it myself without hesitation. As a sponsor I'd rather the players I pay speak their minds, it represents my company well, since we built it on exactly that. Did sanctions include a fine and did you pay it?
It did not. It was Ryungs first and only offense.
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lelelelel sc2 drama never stops lmfao
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On March 21 2014 17:27 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 17:20 Glorfindel! wrote:On March 21 2014 17:10 Grumbels wrote:On March 21 2014 17:04 blade55555 wrote:On March 21 2014 17:03 Gullis wrote:Naniwa does what Naniwa does  Professional or not from a personal view he didn't do anything that out of line. I love how desperate people are to give him shit On March 21 2014 09:54 Naniwa wrote:
im sure that if i practice 2 weeks in the future i can make the comeback as the best foreign player at any time if i feel like it.
tournaments by their own skill I love how people desperately try to defend his actions! And they always have a Swedish nationality. Can we please stop this? Id say there are quite many swedes in the community strongly condemning Naniwas attitude and personality. However - it seems like many people like you feel some kind of desperate need to point out that all swedes are fans of Naniwa - which clearly is not the case. If you had any idea about the Swedish community you would know that Naniwa is not as apriciated as you might think. It's hard not to notice that almost all of his followers on this site have the swedish tag, that naniwa almost always specifically thanks swedish fans as if others aren't worthy of him, and that there is always some excuse related to sweden on his pathetic actions. Sorry that generalising happens, but unfortunately it does.
lol when has he thanked only his swedish fans? I've never seen anything like that happen. He is swedish, so feeling a special connection to those fans is pretty normal? There are plenty of NaNiwa fans that aren't swedish, and their are plenty of douche bags like you that aren't Australian. But if I wanted to generalize, I could say, "it's not hard to notice that most of the extreme douche bags seem to have an Australia tag". Just because people "generalize" doesn't mean it's right, or that everyone should do it. You are condemning someone for acting like 6 year old, and then you come on here and post things that make you seem like an immature little kid. How ironic.
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They really should've kicked Naniwa after the nation wars drama. He has shown time and time again he is only interested in Naniwa and when things don't work out how he wants he will go to lengths to stir drama no matter how childish it is then later come back with the same shitty apology. I guess in the esports scene it's cool to act like a douche as long as you can win a few tournaments?
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On March 22 2014 07:55 tokinho wrote:
best foreigner.. lol.. not even the best foreign protoss. Sase better. Too bad sase not given the chance to compete as much as Naniwa. Naniwa's self proclaimed best foreigner title. What a joke.. Just gave himself that because protoss is stronk in hots. Stephano was better than Naniwa will ever be.
I would rather have state or sase as my player. How does Naniwa forget it took stephano when zerg was op to stop him after getting through the korean gauntlet.
TLO,Dayshi, Vortix has more points in wcs than Naniwa. They have all won tourneys.
lol
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On March 22 2014 10:08 Baarn wrote:
They really should've kicked Naniwa after the nation wars drama. He has shown time and time again he is only interested in Naniwa and when things don't work out how he wants he will go to lengths to stir drama no matter how childish it is then later come back with the same shitty apology. I guess in the esports scene it's cool to act like a douche as long as you can win a few tournaments?
In sports, players insult each other, injure other players, cheat, etc. In e-sports, a player acts "unprofessional" and become the biggest scumbag on the planet.
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