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On March 18 2014 04:28 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 04:22 ShowTheLights wrote: >__> so many "invites" and "fan voting" Helps to avoid some of the rounds that are basically walks anyway like JD vs. a gold Terran etc etc etc. Given JD's recent ZvT I would not be so sure...
Anyway, interesting concept, I'm just happy open bracket is back. NA needs ways for unknown players to make a name.
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I think this is a pretty good plan for MLG's viewership numbers.
Day 1: foreigners vs foreigners Day 2: foreigners vs Koreans (always hype) Day 3: mostly Koreans, but it's the championship bracket which creates more hype.
They aren't going for Europeans since hosting the event in Anaheim means they can't hold it at a good time for EU.
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Will the qualifiers be broadcasted?
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This sounds very good, gonna be great
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I hope the invites are at least somewhat connected to former MLG champions, I'm okay with public voting but it would be nice if the other seeds weren't just doled out to the most savvy business choice. Or at least, I hope, spread amongst NA teams evenly at the very least. I'm sure there's a happy medium somewhere.
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On March 18 2014 06:23 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 04:28 ThomasjServo wrote:On March 18 2014 04:22 ShowTheLights wrote: >__> so many "invites" and "fan voting" Helps to avoid some of the rounds that are basically walks anyway like JD vs. a gold Terran etc etc etc. Given JD's recent ZvT I would not be so sure... Anyway, interesting concept, I'm just happy open bracket is back. NA needs ways for unknown players to make a name. So long as he didn't use swarm hosts he should come out on top.
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Will we have to sign up for the open bracket before ? Or we register when we come to MLG ?
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I will not be surprised if MLG continues with their fan service to those entered into the polls for the invite qualifiers. Really a horrendous way to go about doing qualifiers which can potentially boost the fame of players like Bails, Koma, and Sonic for instance. Really makes me sad that there is only 1 GB tournament with 6 spots instead of it being more spread out and more spots.
It shouldn't be 50%/50% qualifier spots and only one elimination possibility for a tournament. @_@;; + Show Spoiler +though this is 'just' for pool play, i still think it's important.
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Still treating the NA SC 2 scene as if it were voting for political candidates. Pretty soon, people are going to stop playing and just start campaigning for why people should vote for them. I don't know whether to laugh or play a different game, or both. I still wish tournaments were played out via voting, too. Take it the whole 9. I vote for minigun to win.
Every game should be a showmatch, and, then, after the game, viewers should vote for who they want to win/advance. That would be swell. Make it happen, champs.
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On March 18 2014 12:53 playa wrote: Still treating the NA SC 2 scene as if it were voting for political candidates. Pretty soon, people are going to stop playing and just start campaigning for why people should vote for them. I don't know whether to laugh or play a different game, or both. I still wish tournaments were played out via voting, too. Take it the whole 9. I vote for minigun to win.
Every game should be a showmatch, and, then, after the game, viewers should vote for who they want to win/advance. That would be swell. Make it happen, champs. So you're not a fan of the voting?
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On March 18 2014 13:05 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 12:53 playa wrote: Still treating the NA SC 2 scene as if it were voting for political candidates. Pretty soon, people are going to stop playing and just start campaigning for why people should vote for them. I don't know whether to laugh or play a different game, or both. I still wish tournaments were played out via voting, too. Take it the whole 9. I vote for minigun to win.
Every game should be a showmatch, and, then, after the game, viewers should vote for who they want to win/advance. That would be swell. Make it happen, champs. So you're not a fan of the voting?
If you're going to make a joke/spectacle (in a comical sense) out of NA, then I believe once it is already tarnished... go all the way. Make no bones about what is going on. A fraudulent tournament should be as fun as possible. I'd love to see two people that everyone hates matched up against each other, putting on a show, and then seeing who would win the "fan" voting. Playing games/winning is overrated. It's all about what the people want. Who cares if you won if no one likes you? MLG gets it. They just need to take it a little further.
Plansix, you might be a good poster, but... why would anyone vote you into a forum if you weren't as popular as another member? Who cares about quality. That's just so overrated to me. I just don't like half-ass things. I feel like MLG is teasing me. We all want minigun to win. It's all about making the viewers/customers happy.
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On March 18 2014 13:10 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 13:05 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 12:53 playa wrote: Still treating the NA SC 2 scene as if it were voting for political candidates. Pretty soon, people are going to stop playing and just start campaigning for why people should vote for them. I don't know whether to laugh or play a different game, or both. I still wish tournaments were played out via voting, too. Take it the whole 9. I vote for minigun to win.
Every game should be a showmatch, and, then, after the game, viewers should vote for who they want to win/advance. That would be swell. Make it happen, champs. So you're not a fan of the voting? If you're going to make a joke/spectacle (in a comical sense) out of NA, then I believe once it is already tarnished... go all the way. Make no bones about what is going on. A fraudulent tournament should be as fun as possible. I'd love to see two people that everyone hates matched up against each other, putting on a show, and then seeing who would win the "fan" voting. Playing games/winning is overrated. It's all about what the people want. Who cares if you won if no one likes you? MLG gets it. They just need to take it a little further. Plansix, you might be a good poster, but... why would anyone vote you into a forum if you weren't as popular as another member? Who cares about quality. That's just so overrated to me. I just don't like half-ass things. I feel like MLG is teasing me. We all want minigun to win. It's all about making the viewers/customers happy. You could alway not watch. It's what I do when I don't like something. Rather the posts a bunch reductive comments trying to over play what might be a very minor voting system. Hell it could a vote on what match ups people want to see.
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On March 18 2014 13:17 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 13:10 playa wrote:On March 18 2014 13:05 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 12:53 playa wrote: Still treating the NA SC 2 scene as if it were voting for political candidates. Pretty soon, people are going to stop playing and just start campaigning for why people should vote for them. I don't know whether to laugh or play a different game, or both. I still wish tournaments were played out via voting, too. Take it the whole 9. I vote for minigun to win.
Every game should be a showmatch, and, then, after the game, viewers should vote for who they want to win/advance. That would be swell. Make it happen, champs. So you're not a fan of the voting? If you're going to make a joke/spectacle (in a comical sense) out of NA, then I believe once it is already tarnished... go all the way. Make no bones about what is going on. A fraudulent tournament should be as fun as possible. I'd love to see two people that everyone hates matched up against each other, putting on a show, and then seeing who would win the "fan" voting. Playing games/winning is overrated. It's all about what the people want. Who cares if you won if no one likes you? MLG gets it. They just need to take it a little further. Plansix, you might be a good poster, but... why would anyone vote you into a forum if you weren't as popular as another member? Who cares about quality. That's just so overrated to me. I just don't like half-ass things. I feel like MLG is teasing me. We all want minigun to win. It's all about making the viewers/customers happy. You could alway not watch. It's what I do when I don't like something. Rather the posts a bunch reductive comments trying to over play what might be a very minor voting system. Hell it could a vote on what match ups people want to see.
Say I wanted to vote for Avilo. Who cares if you vote in bad players if they always get knocked out in the first round. It makes the whole system so "who cares..." for a lack of a better word. At least give me a chance to vote for bad players to advance a few rounds to make this system not the worst thing possible. I mean, it makes no sense as is.
I'd like to vote for nathanias to live past 10 minutes. So maybe the other guy can be forced to go afk for a lil bit. It should be more fan controlled. Just my opinion though.
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On March 18 2014 13:17 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 13:10 playa wrote:On March 18 2014 13:05 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 12:53 playa wrote: Still treating the NA SC 2 scene as if it were voting for political candidates. Pretty soon, people are going to stop playing and just start campaigning for why people should vote for them. I don't know whether to laugh or play a different game, or both. I still wish tournaments were played out via voting, too. Take it the whole 9. I vote for minigun to win.
Every game should be a showmatch, and, then, after the game, viewers should vote for who they want to win/advance. That would be swell. Make it happen, champs. So you're not a fan of the voting? If you're going to make a joke/spectacle (in a comical sense) out of NA, then I believe once it is already tarnished... go all the way. Make no bones about what is going on. A fraudulent tournament should be as fun as possible. I'd love to see two people that everyone hates matched up against each other, putting on a show, and then seeing who would win the "fan" voting. Playing games/winning is overrated. It's all about what the people want. Who cares if you won if no one likes you? MLG gets it. They just need to take it a little further. Plansix, you might be a good poster, but... why would anyone vote you into a forum if you weren't as popular as another member? Who cares about quality. That's just so overrated to me. I just don't like half-ass things. I feel like MLG is teasing me. We all want minigun to win. It's all about making the viewers/customers happy. You could alway not watch. It's what I do when I don't like something. Rather the posts a bunch reductive comments trying to over play what might be a very minor voting system. Hell it could a vote on what match ups people want to see.
o.o... While I do think Playa is going a bit overboard... Wouldn't you agree that it is odd that half of the pool play spots are only available to those who are invited or voted in to a chance to even participate? I don't think this should mean we immediately shouldn't watch it, but rather, encourage more pool play spots for people who qualify through open skilled environments. This just seems natural >.>
+ Show Spoiler +Rather than reductive I'd call the aforementioned posts drama-inducing :p
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Meh, I'll gladly pass on this one. I cannot believe that there are no qualifiers for Europe and Korea. I mean, while I am not expecting MLG to reimburse the traveling expenses of the qualified players, I would wish that there was some way for them to go around the open bracket.
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On March 18 2014 05:25 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 04:35 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 04:22 ShowTheLights wrote: >__> so many "invites" and "fan voting" Well, do you really expect Korean pros to drop $3000 on flights and hotel to the US just to duke it out in the open bracket? Invites are fine and a pure open bracket is not reasonable for players that have to spend so much getting to the event. Are leagues really expected to pay for every flight for pro players? What about sponsors and teams?
Agreed, it feels more like the job of the teams/sponsors to fix that
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On March 18 2014 05:25 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 04:35 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 04:22 ShowTheLights wrote: >__> so many "invites" and "fan voting" Well, do you really expect Korean pros to drop $3000 on flights and hotel to the US just to duke it out in the open bracket? Invites are fine and a pure open bracket is not reasonable for players that have to spend so much getting to the event. Are leagues really expected to pay for every flight for pro players? What about sponsors and teams?
You began to invite Koreans via the partnership with GSL. Of course no organizer ever should pay for flights. Koreans/Europeans need to be able to afford their own flights so they actually pay for grabbing money out of the NA eco-system rather than getting paid to take that money out of the system.
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On March 18 2014 05:25 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 04:35 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 04:22 ShowTheLights wrote: >__> so many "invites" and "fan voting" Well, do you really expect Korean pros to drop $3000 on flights and hotel to the US just to duke it out in the open bracket? Invites are fine and a pure open bracket is not reasonable for players that have to spend so much getting to the event. Are leagues really expected to pay for every flight for pro players? What about sponsors and teams?
I think this might be the crux of the issue? I get not wanting to pay for KR travel, but I'm not sure why it couldn't have been set up for KR to pay their own way here with a pool spot. I mean, if you think about it from a team perspective, it's a helluva lot harder to make the decision to invest in your player in an open bracket than it is in pool play (guaranteed stage/advertising time)
I don't doubt a lot of thought went into this and this was determined to be the best solution for a variety of factors, not all of which are known to us looking in from the outside. It's just a bit unfortunate for those of us who really aren't going to book an entire trip on the "hopes" enough top tier Koreans enter the OB.
Either way this is probably the perfect spot to have these sorts of tournament restrictions. There will be plenty of locals who don't have to travel far. I hope this is a really successful event. I shall be tuning into the stream and keeping my eyes open for a potential live event later this year. glgl
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