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shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany614 Posts
March 12 2014 15:11 GMT
#101
"Trading is closed." NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
March 12 2014 15:13 GMT
#102
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 12 2014 15:19 GMT
#103
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 12 2014 15:20 GMT
#104
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot

It is a common misconception that there was actually a Code A/Code S seed on the line in that tournament.
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 15:46:00
March 12 2014 15:45 GMT
#105
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol
SooYoung-Noona!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
March 12 2014 16:03 GMT
#106
On March 13 2014 00:45 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol


no it's a very common and unfortuante misconception

ESV gave a code a seed in the PREVIOUS season
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
March 12 2014 16:49 GMT
#107
the guy was such a beast befor the scandal :/
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
March 12 2014 19:04 GMT
#108
On March 13 2014 00:45 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol


Well, as far as I remember: There could have been a Code A seed on the line, if everything turned out perfectly for Byun. I think he would have had to win this weekly tournament + the monthly final in order to get a Code A seed. But Byun kinda lost the round after he defeated CoCa, which basically nullified the effect of the throw.

And for CoCa there really was nothing on the line at all.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
March 12 2014 19:09 GMT
#109
On March 13 2014 04:04 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 00:45 ffadicted wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol


Well, as far as I remember: There could have been a Code A seed on the line, if everything turned out perfectly for Byun. I think he would have had to win this weekly tournament + the monthly final in order to get a Code A seed. But Byun kinda lost the round after he defeated CoCa, which basically nullified the effect of the throw.

And for CoCa there really was nothing on the line at all.


Nah. Just his legitimacy as a competitor, and his career as a pro-gamer. Nothing on the line at all.... After the match-fix, CoCa's career actually got pile-drivered into shit. He simply never appreciated the gravity of giving his buddy a free win and now, he has to go out and get a "normal" job.
twitch.tv/duttroach
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 12 2014 19:10 GMT
#110
On March 13 2014 04:04 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 00:45 ffadicted wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol


Well, as far as I remember: There could have been a Code A seed on the line, if everything turned out perfectly for Byun. I think he would have had to win this weekly tournament + the monthly final in order to get a Code A seed. But Byun kinda lost the round after he defeated CoCa, which basically nullified the effect of the throw.

And for CoCa there really was nothing on the line at all.


Waxangel's post was literally 2nd to last before you decided to make yours, but you didn't read it anyway...

There was no Code A seed for that particular ESV tournament season. There had been one for the previous season.

There also were Code A seeds on the line for EWM, but that was a different tournament altogether that began its existence in 2012.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 12 2014 19:14 GMT
#111
On March 13 2014 04:09 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:04 Swisslink wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:45 ffadicted wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol


Well, as far as I remember: There could have been a Code A seed on the line, if everything turned out perfectly for Byun. I think he would have had to win this weekly tournament + the monthly final in order to get a Code A seed. But Byun kinda lost the round after he defeated CoCa, which basically nullified the effect of the throw.

And for CoCa there really was nothing on the line at all.


Nah. Just his legitimacy as a competitor, and his career as a pro-gamer. Nothing on the line at all.... After the match-fix, CoCa's career actually got pile-drivered into shit. He simply never appreciated the gravity of giving his buddy a free win and now, he has to go out and get a "normal" job.

*sigh* It's a shame you can't forgive one mistake from a teenager for which he served a hefty punishment. Plus how the hell do you know he doesn't "appreciate the gravity" of what he did? For all we know in hindsight that is his greatest regret. Please don't make those assumptions.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
March 12 2014 19:23 GMT
#112
I think Jin Air already had the smallest Proleague roster, now it's smaller still - I hope they can pick one or two new players up.

Sad to see Coca go after he had seemingly regained some promise recently.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 19:30:39
March 12 2014 19:24 GMT
#113
On March 13 2014 04:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:04 Swisslink wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:45 ffadicted wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol


Well, as far as I remember: There could have been a Code A seed on the line, if everything turned out perfectly for Byun. I think he would have had to win this weekly tournament + the monthly final in order to get a Code A seed. But Byun kinda lost the round after he defeated CoCa, which basically nullified the effect of the throw.

And for CoCa there really was nothing on the line at all.


Waxangel's post was literally 2nd to last before you decided to make yours, but you didn't read it anyway...

There was no Code A seed for that particular ESV tournament season. There had been one for the previous season.

There also were Code A seeds on the line for EWM, but that was a different tournament altogether that began its existence in 2012.


Well... I did read it, but somehow Liquipedia tells me something else - or you define "season" differently than I do. For me, season 1 means: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESV_TV_Korean_Weekly/Season_1 :o
And season 1 finals #3 gained the winner a Code A spot.

But: for the ESV tournament SEASON (Season 1) there definitely WAS a Code A spot on the line (At least for the third monthly final). It might just be the case, that the last 4 tournaments of the weekly season had no finals.

(It was in Season 1, tournament 15.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESV_TV_Korean_Weekly/Season_1/Weekly_15)



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Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden122 Posts
March 12 2014 19:36 GMT
#114
It always sucks to see one of my favorites retire. Gl in the future CoCa!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 12 2014 19:43 GMT
#115
Oh my god. I agree with MasterOfPuppets someone help me! I'm a big proponent of "You do the crime you do the time." He committed a small "crime" and did his time in a BIG way. Coca didn't decide to throw the game before hand. He didn't have ANYTHING to gain from throwing the game. Hell, he hardly had anything to gain from WINNING the game. There was only 200 dollars on the line (NOT A CODE A SEED PLS) and he wasn't even in the finals yet. So if you want to condemn a teenager for helping a friend advance in a meaningless tournament for the rest of his life, go ahead. but let me remind you that you don't need to because he was already punished by Slayers, and they did not go easy. I'm not saying what he did was right, I'm saying he didn't even deserve the punishment he got, let alone the residual anger of the community.
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United States1102 Posts
March 12 2014 20:29 GMT
#116
For all this debate about which pitchforks to use, I loved the guy's play. One of my favorite Zergs back then for sure, and was super excited when he got picked up by Team 8.

I'll miss Coca for sure, with, what seems like, very little hope of a return.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 17:10:33
March 13 2014 17:08 GMT
#117
On March 13 2014 04:24 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:04 Swisslink wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:45 ffadicted wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 13 2014 00:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote:
And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.


And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.

Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?

Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.

Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?

And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/


To me there is no difference between matchfixing in a big or a small tournament.
Also saviour only matchfixed with his friends, so I guess thats ok!

There is no indication what matches were fixed in BW so its not comparable. And coca's tournament had an influence as well, Code A/S seeds are worth a lot


There were no Code A/S seeds on the line, what the fuck are you talking about?


I thought there were? A Code A seed if I remember... maybe I gotta look back lol


Well, as far as I remember: There could have been a Code A seed on the line, if everything turned out perfectly for Byun. I think he would have had to win this weekly tournament + the monthly final in order to get a Code A seed. But Byun kinda lost the round after he defeated CoCa, which basically nullified the effect of the throw.

And for CoCa there really was nothing on the line at all.


Waxangel's post was literally 2nd to last before you decided to make yours, but you didn't read it anyway...

There was no Code A seed for that particular ESV tournament season. There had been one for the previous season.

There also were Code A seeds on the line for EWM, but that was a different tournament altogether that began its existence in 2012.


Well... I did read it, but somehow Liquipedia tells me something else - or you define "season" differently than I do. For me, season 1 means: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESV_TV_Korean_Weekly/Season_1 :o
And season 1 finals #3 gained the winner a Code A spot.

But: for the ESV tournament SEASON (Season 1) there definitely WAS a Code A spot on the line (At least for the third monthly final). It might just be the case, that the last 4 tournaments of the weekly season had no finals.

(It was in Season 1, tournament 15.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESV_TV_Korean_Weekly/Season_1/Weekly_15)




Season 1 Week 15 took place November 16, 2011.
Season 1 Monthly finals that granted a Code A seed ended October 25, 2011.
Unless they had time travel it is impossible for them to be related

There are 3 monthly finals in that season so I guess people were wrong when they said previous season and should have said previous month. There was actually no monthly finals for those last few weeklies in 2011.
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Korea (South)2 Posts
March 14 2014 11:01 GMT
#118
To all the fans who cheer for me, thank you grasping.
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Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)2 Posts
March 14 2014 11:04 GMT
#119
i always remember Starcraft2. and my fan T.T Good bye
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Germany2671 Posts
March 14 2014 11:05 GMT
#120
On March 14 2014 20:04 SlayerSCoCa wrote:
i always remember Starcraft2. and my fan T.T Good bye

Goody Bye and best of luck for your future! And Happy Birthday
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