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On March 12 2014 12:18 Dubzex wrote: Good riddance. The less matchfixing and cheaters the better.
The word matchfixing for what happened always sound very harsh to me. The guy didn't premeditate anything, he did it on the spot, thought there was nothing wrong (dumb I have to admit) until he was told apparently because the fixing aspect was all transparently said in the chat of the game.
Obviously, at this point, he thought that ESV weekly was more of a fun event different than GSL, GSTL or any other big event in Korea and was just playing for fun and he didn't realize the problem with what he was doing. I don't think that in any way, Coca has the spirit of a cheater. And really, it should not haunt him two years later.
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Damn, I'm really sad to hear this, I still remember him from MLG Raleigh, his epic run and his final against Bomber, he looked really good but then never got any breaks after that...
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Would sacrifice all the current Protosses to have Puzzle back and, I don't know, that entire Zerg-hive them North Americans have to get Coca back and winning? Yes, yes I would.
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This is very unfortunate. He was one of my favourites in 2011
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sad news again
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On March 12 2014 19:02 Anlo wrote: Would sacrifice all the current Protosses to have Puzzle back and, I don't know, that entire Zerg-hive them North Americans have to get Coca back and winning? Yes, yes I would.
sacrifice as in "rather have them end their careers" or "sacrifice them to the dark gods to restore Cocas aund puzzles playing passion with stolen spiritual energy"?
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I'm sure he ll come back and be fine!
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I felt he was treated incredibly harshly for what i gladly put down as a 'dumb kid' mistake. Very sad
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On March 12 2014 08:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2014 08:44 duckk wrote: Ah this sucks, but probably the right decision seeing as a certain person pretty much destroyed his career when he had arguably the strongest ZvP at the time. Rebounded ok and would be able to compete, but he is not the same:/ Good player wish him the best. Pretty sure it was CoCa's decision to go along with the matchfixing, no? He could have declined. It's too bad he was that stupid back then... really liked him. Best of luck to him in his future endeavors.
pretty sure slayers could've just NOT overreacted for no fucking reason but hey there you go
if he weren't a top 3 zerg in the world at the time i might not feel so strongly about it, but ffs... why rob him of the opportunity when he was at his peak?
On March 12 2014 11:56 sharkie wrote: Reading the first pages of the thread of the scandal - why is coca getting any sympathy?
HE THREW A GAME IN A TOURNAMENT NOBODY UFCKING WATCHED OR CARED ABOUT (and as a result that tournament died off a few months later). AND HE DID IT FOR NO MONETARY GAIN OR OTHER PERSONAL BENEFIT.
HE'S LITERALLY HITLER
GET THE PITCHFORKS
you people are fuckign dfisgusting
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Coca nooooooooooo
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Sad but true, good luck whatever you do in life.
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On March 12 2014 08:16 ShowTheLights wrote: I just don't understand. CoCa comes out pre-season, destroys Stats in a legit game, then never gets played in Proleague again. I mean I understand team inhouse rankings, but goddamn. Give him a chance atleast Jin Air.
Sorry I just doubled posted, just passionate about this
If only all his games were legit
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Oh no .. Coca was so good ! I remember good old Slayers times
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damn you coca, i was hoping for you!!
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CoCa will be back just in time for Legacy of the Void
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And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.
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United States23455 Posts
On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote: And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not. No one is for matchfixing but people blow it up like he threw a GSL final. He allowed a friend to get another game of practice in a tiny weekly cup that DID NOT give a spot in Code A as many people erroneously say. Then he got punished for it fairly severely and still after all of that people want that blemish to stick with him forever. Some people just feel a little sympathy for the guy.
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Norway839 Posts
When I was in EG-TL house (autumn 2013-ish) CoCa had the most games played out of everyone on KR ladder and was consistently in top 16 xD most people would be like 361-293 and he'd be around 541-469 lol. Saw him play epic games with JD and the others all the time 
Was expecting him to be a top player on whatever team he'd be on and was always looking forward to his games but then we didn't really see him a whole lot. I wouldn't be too surprised to see him come back later but that's just wishful thinking
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On March 12 2014 23:26 sharkie wrote: And here I thougttl the starcraft community might be against matchfixing. I guess not.
And here I thought people have even the slightest, tiniest amount of perspective on things.
Do you even know what matchfixing is? I see you've joined in 2012, even though you don the CJ team logo in your signature, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about the BW matchfixing scandal? Actually, I wonder if you know anything whatsoever about this incident in particular, since you joined after the fact? Did you just read some random guy's post and assume it was fact, without bothering to read on the real issue? Are you by chance mistaking the two events for one another?
Because it's one thing to lose pro games in literally the most reputed, respected and established tournament that exists within a game's scene, with clear premeditation and at least some intent, and get paid for doing so. It's another thing entirely to lose on purpose a game against your friend, in a tournament that for all intents and purposes was irrelevant compared to the big events, that the players treated with far less interest and respect (whether or not it's right for them to do so is a separate matter entirely), on the fly (that is, without premeditation), and without there being any money or any other personal gains on the line.
Do you legitimately not see the difference between the two cases? Are you that mindblowingly, stomach-churningly dense?
And here I thought people with four thousand posts on this forum might have at least a tiny amount of critical thinking or general intelligence, I guess not. :/
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