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burzumbu
Profile Joined October 2013
Croatia68 Posts
January 28 2014 09:12 GMT
#781
this is a good idea, there should be one tournament where winner takes it all.. players that will get to that IEM will earn plenty of money in other IEM tournaments in 2014. so no one should complain, it will be tournament with best of the best
*i am mine*
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
January 28 2014 09:15 GMT
#782
this is a terrible idea. 3 of the top 4 will lose motivation to play
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#783
Ok top players of the world , practice your cheese and all-ins !
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
January 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#784
On January 28 2014 18:15 29 fps wrote:
this is a terrible idea. 3 of the top 4 will lose motivation to play


I don't think those 3 players have a mind that weak.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#785
Putting everything into one amazing final is quite a gamble considering how often finals are anticlimatic. Alot of ppl will be disappointed and since we cant know if the players split the money the goal of "winner takes it all" wont even be true, or we cant know if its true.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 09:19:30
January 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#786
its cool
its not their normal format its a SPECIAL and i am for sure watching the finals ... EVERYONE WILL ^^
the viewercount will skyrocket ^^ thats good,
people talk about it and thats good too

and players will be ok with one tournament no money xD

On January 28 2014 18:18 xuanzue wrote:
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On January 28 2014 18:15 29 fps wrote:
this is a terrible idea. 3 of the top 4 will lose motivation to play


I don't think those 3 players have a mind that weak.


and we see which players have balls ^^ thats good man imagine naniwa 2nd place xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
January 28 2014 09:19 GMT
#787
this is great, I watched over 20+ hours of sc2 a week for 3 years and now i dont even watch 1 hour a week. This i will watch.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 28 2014 09:23 GMT
#788
I want to see MVP 2-raxing his way to victory in the last game!
legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
January 28 2014 09:25 GMT
#789
I'm a fan of qualifications and spread out prize money.
IEM is really good at taking that approach, one which supports all tiers of progamers. From the player that is a favorite to make it far and grab some cash to the new player that needs an opportunity to shine.

With that in mind I can look past this one event. Even though it would seem be better to spread the money we have to look at what else is to gain here. Maybe spectators from other games will tune in to SC2 this time and fall in love. My only problem with that is that I think collusion is going to be expected here and I don't blame anyone for doing that. It's hard to balance.

Whether we get games that end early or games that drag on forever, I have no preference. Play to win.
I do think in general somewhat longer games can capture some of the magic better for new viewers. So even with collusion I'm hoping those near the end will at least see it as a showmatch.

I'm thinking that could be worth it in the long run. Let's go for it.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
January 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#790


Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 28 2014 09:32 GMT
#791
On January 28 2014 07:09 Musicus wrote:
Just some more opinions:

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She does make a point , but my guts tell me if her husband had a chance of winning her opinion would've been different.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
January 28 2014 09:50 GMT
#792
"Handeut apparently more than one hundred million eyes" - Google translate. If someone could tell what Life is saying would be col :D
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
January 28 2014 10:02 GMT
#793
I don't like this idea at all. Guess in times where not many people care for SC2 anymore its a desperate move to get some more viewers.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 28 2014 10:03 GMT
#794
On January 28 2014 18:32 Tchado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:09 Musicus wrote:
Just some more opinions:

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/LiquidRet/status/427925730547073024

https://twitter.com/LiquidRet/status/427926063553855488


https://twitter.com/followcassandra/status/427925312119508993


She does make a point , but my guts tell me if her husband had a chance of winning her opinion would've been different.


If one of the guys who posted a negative tweet wins, get ready for the "I was just kidding! Winner takes all is the best format!" stuff afterward
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 10:11:11
January 28 2014 10:06 GMT
#795
On January 28 2014 17:21 Khai wrote:
This is insane but its' already working, just look at the amount of attention garnered already. Personally I am against a winner takes all $100k, that's really disrespectful to the players who might end up with nothing after a lot of hard work, imagine the runner up's feelings...

This will be more about who will be the lucky on form player that day rather than be about skill.


How is it disrespectful? Players know what's at stake if they lose. They can throw their hat in for a chance to win 100 grand, or make the decision to sit this one out, it's up to them. What would be disrespectful is suddenly saying on the day of the tournament that it's winner take all, but that's absolutely not the case here.

Again, this is one tournament. It's obviously not a format that can become the norm or else the scene overall will die out, but it's ok to have something like this every now and then, imo.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
January 28 2014 10:10 GMT
#796
On January 28 2014 19:03 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 18:32 Tchado wrote:
On January 28 2014 07:09 Musicus wrote:
Just some more opinions:

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/LiquidRet/status/427925730547073024

https://twitter.com/LiquidRet/status/427926063553855488


https://twitter.com/followcassandra/status/427925312119508993


She does make a point , but my guts tell me if her husband had a chance of winning her opinion would've been different.


If one of the guys who posted a negative tweet wins, get ready for the "I was just kidding! Winner takes all is the best format!" stuff afterward


because people clearly only have a negative opinion about something if it affects them personally. even if you win, you can still think the format is bad. empathy and all that. the point cassandra makes is the main argument against it, as long as this stays a one time thing i dont really consider it to be an issue in that regard, but i still dont like it.
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 10:11:54
January 28 2014 10:10 GMT
#797
This format seems like a conceit that ESL can't sell their tournament properly. Do they need to have the second place finisher get nothing for their final to be exciting? The players certainly don't need that big of a disparity to motivate them.

They'd get the same result in terms of player motivation, importance of the final, and whine from the community if the prize pool was 70/20/10. And in regards to sustaining the scene, 20/10k is still a significant amount, and 70k for the winner is still enormous.

But hey, it's ESL, at least nowadays at least one person is getting their prize money.
Once you Goblak...
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
January 28 2014 10:12 GMT
#798
On January 28 2014 18:32 Tchado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 07:09 Musicus wrote:
Just some more opinions:

+ Show Spoiler +

https://twitter.com/LiquidRet/status/427925730547073024

https://twitter.com/LiquidRet/status/427926063553855488


https://twitter.com/followcassandra/status/427925312119508993


She does make a point , but my guts tell me if her husband had a chance of winning her opinion would've been different.

Ret removed the tweet. Did he get a invite?
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany603 Posts
January 28 2014 10:16 GMT
#799
"IEM World Championship to be Korean player Takes All for $100,000"

Non-Koreans already whining because they know that don't have a chance at winning the whole thing.
It's not even a joke. ~_~
contv
Profile Joined August 2010
35 Posts
January 28 2014 10:20 GMT
#800
A winner takes all tournament once in a while is a great idea. Let the mid-level players sit this one out - this format forces all 16 players to go in with the intent of being number 1. That's awesome.
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