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IEM World Championship to be Winner Takes All for $100,000…

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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 27 2014 20:23 GMT
#221
Well this is certainly interesting :D Id watch these finals!
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#222
On January 28 2014 05:22 sWs wrote:
Why not have
1st: 40k
2nd: 20k
3/4th:10k
Ro8: 2.5k

This would be pretty top heavy and the finals would still be epic as all hell....

T.T love IEM, but this doesn't make any sense


I see it as a one-in-a-lifetime (or year, which is also a long time in the competitive gaming scene) experiment with players who have nothing to lose since they are already very stable financially.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#223
On January 28 2014 05:23 Beyonder wrote:
Well this is certainly interesting :D Id watch these finals!


actually the ro4 might be where the real tension is if they split the prize.
Zest fanboy.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#224
On January 28 2014 05:11 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?

While I sit firmly in the "this is stupid camp" demuslim is in favour of this


Who cares what a streamer thinks? This is a tournament for pro players.

User was warned for this post
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#225
Best pro tweet so far:

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#226
I don't understand why there is that much negativity about it, it is pretty epic if you ask me.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 27 2014 20:25 GMT
#227
On January 28 2014 05:24 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:11 Fusilero wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?

While I sit firmly in the "this is stupid camp" demuslim is in favour of this
https://twitter.com/DeMusliM/status/427890425018318848


Who cares what a streamer thinks? This is a tournament for pro players.

OH SNAP IS IT A WARZONE IN HERE AS THESE SHOTS ARE FLYING ALL OVER
Glorious SEA doto
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 27 2014 20:25 GMT
#228
Socke <3
Lets make it so only best caster/host gets money from all as well,very intresting!! im sure everyone would give their best @Kaelaris @IEM
Zest fanboy.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 27 2014 20:25 GMT
#229
On January 28 2014 05:23 mikkmagro wrote:
People forget that ESL was for a long time a big advocate for not having a top heavy prizepool for their regular circuit events. It is still that way for all their global championships, just not for the World Championship, which is one event.

As for helping progamers make money, ESL is the organiser with the largest span of countries in which they organise events in as many continents and for as many scenes as possible. Singapore, Brazil, Ukraine...they go EVERYWHERE, and they always invite the 'local champion' directly into the tournament to give people a hometown favourite. They provide qualifiers for all the regions, including Taiwan, Oceania, etc to make sure everyone has a shot.

Apart from that, they organise hundreds of smaller regional and local tournaments such as the ESL Euro Series, the EPS in Germany and Spain, weekly and monthly cups etc.

So really, they deserve no criticism at all from that front. They're just doing one event differently.


Yeah it seems a lot of people in this community are quite bad at such things as "perspective" and "remembering the past" (except when it's some massively stupid drama incident)... Who would've thunk it?

Fuck that, pitchforks at the ready.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Goto_
Profile Joined September 2013
France8 Posts
January 27 2014 20:25 GMT
#230
I like that !

Losers deserve nothing !
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 27 2014 20:26 GMT
#231
On January 28 2014 05:21 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 04:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It's hard to be negative about a $100k announcement but this is just bad.


If you like flat prize distributions, you should send your best players to events that have them.

Boom. Good retort.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
January 27 2014 20:26 GMT
#232
On January 28 2014 05:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:17 Yorbon wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:10 Derez wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:08 Yorbon wrote:
The finals will be awesome, from a spectator point of view.

I don't know if i like it, though. Very glad that expenses are covered, otherwise it would've been pretty terrible.
Thinking about it, except i if were a top notch player, i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all.

Well, its free to go and they'll get their sponsor shirts on the air. Don't see a reason why any player would not go.
Opportunity costs; that time can be spent a better way; like practicing for something else near that time, the player has already committed to. When you're not a top notch player, it's not very likely to play any role of significance, and thus the value for sponsors will be minimal.

And those are decisions players can make for themselves. We know some of them are going to say"fuck it, I want 100K"
Sure.

Let me quote myself: 'i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all'. You know, first person.


shinobi112
Profile Joined May 2005
19 Posts
January 27 2014 20:27 GMT
#233
Again with the "I feel shitty mentality because I can not get first place and win the 100,000" I agree starcraft 2 is a flawed game and people may get "shit" luck but at the top levels you have to feel like you have a chance against anyone in the world otherwise you will get nowhere with a progamer career. The fact of it is the scene is very hard to make a living even when you are winning some smaller tournaments. This tournament can seriously give a person a life changing amount and is a brilliant idea.

The idea of top players splitting the money or "match fixing" even is a very bad mentality for e-sports and should be frowned upon greatly, people should not accept this. We must rely on the players to maintain the integrity of the game.
one day one life
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 27 2014 20:28 GMT
#234
On January 28 2014 05:26 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:17 Yorbon wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:10 Derez wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:08 Yorbon wrote:
The finals will be awesome, from a spectator point of view.

I don't know if i like it, though. Very glad that expenses are covered, otherwise it would've been pretty terrible.
Thinking about it, except i if were a top notch player, i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all.

Well, its free to go and they'll get their sponsor shirts on the air. Don't see a reason why any player would not go.
Opportunity costs; that time can be spent a better way; like practicing for something else near that time, the player has already committed to. When you're not a top notch player, it's not very likely to play any role of significance, and thus the value for sponsors will be minimal.

And those are decisions players can make for themselves. We know some of them are going to say"fuck it, I want 100K"
Sure.

Let me quote myself: 'i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all'. You know, first person.




It's easy to say that when the only perspective you're familiar with is that of someone who can't compete on that level (or anywhere near it) to begin with, but I'm sure someone like MC would disagree. (I mention him because he's generally more ballsy than other pros)
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 27 2014 20:28 GMT
#235
On January 28 2014 05:22 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:21 Carmac wrote:
On January 28 2014 04:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It's hard to be negative about a $100k announcement but this is just bad.


If you like flat prize distributions, you should send your best players to events that have them.


trolling on this subject isn't the best thing you'll ever do...

I think it's great. Enough polite nonsense. If you don't like it, don't send your players. Problem solved.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 27 2014 20:28 GMT
#236
On January 28 2014 05:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:23 mikkmagro wrote:
People forget that ESL was for a long time a big advocate for not having a top heavy prizepool for their regular circuit events. It is still that way for all their global championships, just not for the World Championship, which is one event.

As for helping progamers make money, ESL is the organiser with the largest span of countries in which they organise events in as many continents and for as many scenes as possible. Singapore, Brazil, Ukraine...they go EVERYWHERE, and they always invite the 'local champion' directly into the tournament to give people a hometown favourite. They provide qualifiers for all the regions, including Taiwan, Oceania, etc to make sure everyone has a shot.

Apart from that, they organise hundreds of smaller regional and local tournaments such as the ESL Euro Series, the EPS in Germany and Spain, weekly and monthly cups etc.

So really, they deserve no criticism at all from that front. They're just doing one event differently.


Yeah it seems a lot of people in this community are quite bad at such things as "perspective" and "remembering the past" (except when it's some massively stupid drama incident)... Who would've thunk it?

Fuck that, pitchforks at the ready.

We remember the past. We know, what ESL is capable of as a tournament organizer and we know, that they do very much for the scene. Doing good things in the past does´nt make doing bad things in the future right though. If you talk about "perspective", you should be able to differentiate between different time-zones and view them in different perspectives.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:29:45
January 27 2014 20:29 GMT
#237
I guess it's good and bad. But probably more bad.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
January 27 2014 20:29 GMT
#238
it would still be "A SHOW" if the 100k were split amongst the top 3 at least. Gold/silver/bronze? Anyone? No?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 27 2014 20:29 GMT
#239
On January 28 2014 05:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:22 sAsImre wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:21 Carmac wrote:
On January 28 2014 04:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It's hard to be negative about a $100k announcement but this is just bad.


If you like flat prize distributions, you should send your best players to events that have them.


trolling on this subject isn't the best thing you'll ever do...

I think it's great. Enough polite nonsense. If you don't like it, don't send your players. Problem solved.


yeah sure, Nazgul says that he doesn't like the winner takes it all approach and replying with a troll about flat prize money distribution is great ?
Zest fanboy.
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
January 27 2014 20:30 GMT
#240
if there is collusion i hope the actual winner makes sure the tax issues are covered off in their informal agreement.
otherwise,
the winner of this event could be the real loser.
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