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IEM World Championship to be Winner Takes All for $100,000…

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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 27 2014 20:16 GMT
#201
On January 28 2014 05:15 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?

put every active pro gamer's name in a hat. draw out names

TheBest agrees.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 27 2014 20:16 GMT
#202
On January 28 2014 05:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?


I say this without any malicious intent or disrespect whatsoever, but it's very reasonable and expected that the players who have very slim chances of winning such a stacked event should complain about the distribution. Of those mentioned, HerO would do well in theory, but the all-or-nothing situation is probably far too much for his already-shaky nerves. :/

While I get your point, remember that the announcement is less than an our old and that it is 5 a.m. in korea. It´s not, that the korean tournament favorites say positive things about it, they just have´nt found out yet. And all the guys I listed know the economic sitiuation of Starcraft from a players perspective.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 27 2014 20:16 GMT
#203
On January 28 2014 05:15 ThePlagueJG wrote:
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On January 28 2014 05:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:11 ThePlagueJG wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?


ThorZaIN says it's a bad decision.

Hes got personal experience.


Should've made a split in silent like Naniwa and Scarlett did. I doubt anybody will hold something like that against the players.


Fully agree! Atleast I hope they do this and then subtly release some info about it


would be pretty stupid to not do it but revealing it on the other hand can backfire.
Zest fanboy.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:17:07
January 27 2014 20:16 GMT
#204
On January 28 2014 05:15 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?

put every active pro gamer's name in a hat. draw out names

Naama, Tarson, Dragon and TaraBabcock TheBest
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 27 2014 20:16 GMT
#205
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision.
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision.
TargA says, that it is a bad decision.
Bly says, that it is a bad decision.
HerO says, that it is a bad decision.
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision.
ThorZaIN says, that it is a bad decision.

Did I miss anyone?

Demuslim said he thought it was fine. And Thorazine just said he wouldn't want to take second.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:18:53
January 27 2014 20:17 GMT
#206
On January 28 2014 05:10 Derez wrote:
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On January 28 2014 05:08 Yorbon wrote:
The finals will be awesome, from a spectator point of view.

I don't know if i like it, though. Very glad that expenses are covered, otherwise it would've been pretty terrible.
Thinking about it, except i if were a top notch player, i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all.

Well, its free to go and they'll get their sponsor shirts on the air. Don't see a reason why any player would not go.
Opportunity costs; that time can be spent a better way; like practicing for something else near that time, which the player has already committed to. When you're not a top notch player, it's not very likely to play any role of significance, and thus the value for sponsors will be minimal.
gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
January 27 2014 20:18 GMT
#207
Just in time for MKP comeback!
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
January 27 2014 20:19 GMT
#208
On January 28 2014 05:15 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?

put every active pro gamer's name in a hat. draw out names


sAviOr emerges from hyperbolic chinese BW time chamber
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
January 27 2014 20:19 GMT
#209
I really don't think a winner take all tournament is a good thing =\
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 27 2014 20:19 GMT
#210
On January 28 2014 05:16 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision.
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision.
TargA says, that it is a bad decision.
Bly says, that it is a bad decision.
HerO says, that it is a bad decision.
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision.
ThorZaIN says, that it is a bad decision.

Did I miss anyone?

Demuslim said he thought it was fine. And Thorazine just said he wouldn't want to take second.

Well, he said, it is a bit extreme in his opinion, I take that as a disagreement to the system.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 27 2014 20:19 GMT
#211
On January 28 2014 05:17 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:10 Derez wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:08 Yorbon wrote:
The finals will be awesome, from a spectator point of view.

I don't know if i like it, though. Very glad that expenses are covered, otherwise it would've been pretty terrible.
Thinking about it, except i if were a top notch player, i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all.

Well, its free to go and they'll get their sponsor shirts on the air. Don't see a reason why any player would not go.
Opportunity costs; that time can be spent a better way; like practicing for something else near that time, the player has already committed to. When you're not a top notch player, it's not very likely to play any role of significance, and thus the value for sponsors will be minimal.

And those are decisions players can make for themselves. We know some of them are going to say"fuck it, I want 100K"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
January 27 2014 20:19 GMT
#212
Poll: What is more ESPORTS?

Winner takes all (19)
 
61%

Extended Series (12)
 
39%

31 total votes

Your vote: What is more ESPORTS?

(Vote): Extended Series
(Vote): Winner takes all


JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 27 2014 20:20 GMT
#213
On January 28 2014 05:17 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:10 Derez wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:08 Yorbon wrote:
The finals will be awesome, from a spectator point of view.

I don't know if i like it, though. Very glad that expenses are covered, otherwise it would've been pretty terrible.
Thinking about it, except i if were a top notch player, i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all.

Well, its free to go and they'll get their sponsor shirts on the air. Don't see a reason why any player would not go.
Opportunity costs; that time can be spent a better way; like practicing for something else near that time, which the player has already committed to. When you're not a top notch player, it's not very likely to play any role of significance, and thus the value for sponsors will be minimal.


Agreed, I would rather see it as free vacation trip to Katowice.
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
January 27 2014 20:20 GMT
#214
On January 28 2014 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?

stepano
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:21:04
January 27 2014 20:20 GMT
#215
On January 28 2014 05:17 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:10 Derez wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:08 Yorbon wrote:
The finals will be awesome, from a spectator point of view.

I don't know if i like it, though. Very glad that expenses are covered, otherwise it would've been pretty terrible.
Thinking about it, except i if were a top notch player, i wouldn't even want to attend, i wouldn't have any motivation, at all.

Well, its free to go and they'll get their sponsor shirts on the air. Don't see a reason why any player would not go.
Opportunity costs; that time can be spent a better way; like practicing for something else near that time, which the player has already committed to. When you're not a top notch player, it's not very likely to play any role of significance, and thus the value for sponsors will be minimal.


If you're not top notch you'll say bye on the first day. The aren't many situations in life where one day makes that big of a difference, so no biggie.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 27 2014 20:21 GMT
#216
On January 28 2014 05:20 miniskirt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?

stepano

Stephano/Jinro/Idra invited.
Glorious SEA doto
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 21:34:57
January 27 2014 20:21 GMT
#217
On January 28 2014 04:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It's hard to be negative about a $100k announcement but this is just bad.


If you like flat prize distributions, you should send your best players to events that have them.

[edit: you should have sent..]
www.intelextrememasters.com
sWs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States409 Posts
January 27 2014 20:22 GMT
#218
Why not have
1st: 40k
2nd: 20k
3/4th:10k
Ro8: 2.5k

This would be pretty top heavy and the finals would still be epic as all hell....

T.T love IEM, but this doesn't make any sense
@swsc2
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 27 2014 20:22 GMT
#219
On January 28 2014 05:21 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 04:22 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It's hard to be negative about a $100k announcement but this is just bad.


If you like flat prize distributions, you should send your best players to events that have them.


trolling on this subject isn't the best thing you'll ever do...
Zest fanboy.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 27 2014 20:23 GMT
#220
People forget that ESL was for a long time a big advocate for not having a top heavy prizepool for their regular circuit events. It is still that way for all their global championships, just not for the World Championship, which is one event.

As for helping progamers make money, ESL is the organiser with the largest span of countries in which they organise events in as many continents and for as many scenes as possible. Singapore, Brazil, Ukraine...they go EVERYWHERE, and they always invite the 'local champion' directly into the tournament to give people a hometown favourite. They provide qualifiers for all the regions, including Taiwan, Oceania, etc to make sure everyone has a shot.

Apart from that, they organise hundreds of smaller regional and local tournaments such as the ESL Euro Series, the EPS in Germany and Spain, weekly and monthly cups etc.

So really, they deserve no criticism at all from that front. They're just doing one event differently.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
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