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IEM World Championship to be Winner Takes All for $100,000…

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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 27 2014 20:11 GMT
#181
On January 28 2014 05:11 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?


Thorzain.

Oh yeah, right, add him to the list.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
January 27 2014 20:12 GMT
#182
On January 28 2014 05:10 Fionn wrote:
I'm cool with this if they:

A) Bring back that heart meter thing
B) Finish up the Ro4 on the second to last day so that you can hype the $100,000 finals for an entire day
C) Have a gigantic briefcase for the winning player to grab when they win
D) Somehow get MarineKing into the finals

I'll be fine with just B and C xD
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 27 2014 20:12 GMT
#183
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?


I say this without any malicious intent or disrespect whatsoever, but it's very reasonable and expected that the players who have very slim chances of winning such a stacked event should complain about the distribution. Of those mentioned, HerO would do well in theory, but the all-or-nothing situation is probably far too much for his already-shaky nerves. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 27 2014 20:12 GMT
#184
On January 28 2014 05:10 Fionn wrote:
I'm cool with this if they:

A) Bring back that heart meter thing
B) Finish up the Ro4 on the second to last day so that you can hype the $100,000 finals for an entire day
C) Have a gigantic briefcase for the winning player to grab when they win
D) Somehow get MarineKing into the finals

game 5 has to be played in BW
game 6 has to be played in SC2BW
game 7 has to be played in Starbow?
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 27 2014 20:12 GMT
#185
On January 28 2014 05:12 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:10 Fionn wrote:
I'm cool with this if they:

A) Bring back that heart meter thing
B) Finish up the Ro4 on the second to last day so that you can hype the $100,000 finals for an entire day
C) Have a gigantic briefcase for the winning player to grab when they win
D) Somehow get MarineKing into the finals

game 5 has to be played in BW
game 6 has to be played in SC2BW
game 7 has to be played in Starbow?

Star Strikers
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-27 20:14:19
January 27 2014 20:13 GMT
#186
On January 28 2014 05:12 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:10 Fionn wrote:
I'm cool with this if they:

A) Bring back that heart meter thing
B) Finish up the Ro4 on the second to last day so that you can hype the $100,000 finals for an entire day
C) Have a gigantic briefcase for the winning player to grab when they win
D) Somehow get MarineKing into the finals

game 5 has to be played in BW
game 6 has to be played in SC2BW
game 7 has to be played in Starbow?

Decider is 1v1 shadowfiend.
Fk it let's make it the greatest BO7 show ever, seven matches of seven games for 100k
Game 1: SC2
Game 2: StarStrikers
Game 3: Starbow
Game 4: Brood War
Game 5: WC3
Game 6: 1v1 shadowfiend
Game 7: Starcraft 64
Glorious SEA doto
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 27 2014 20:13 GMT
#187
On January 28 2014 05:12 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:10 Fionn wrote:
I'm cool with this if they:

A) Bring back that heart meter thing
B) Finish up the Ro4 on the second to last day so that you can hype the $100,000 finals for an entire day
C) Have a gigantic briefcase for the winning player to grab when they win
D) Somehow get MarineKing into the finals

game 5 has to be played in BW
game 6 has to be played in SC2BW
game 7 has to be played in Starbow?

game 7 is looping louie.
The Bomber boy
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
January 27 2014 20:13 GMT
#188
On January 28 2014 05:12 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:12 Shellshock wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:10 Fionn wrote:
I'm cool with this if they:

A) Bring back that heart meter thing
B) Finish up the Ro4 on the second to last day so that you can hype the $100,000 finals for an entire day
C) Have a gigantic briefcase for the winning player to grab when they win
D) Somehow get MarineKing into the finals

game 5 has to be played in BW
game 6 has to be played in SC2BW
game 7 has to be played in Starbow?

Star Strikers


End it all with a Raynor Raiders.
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 27 2014 20:13 GMT
#189
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?


adebisi: bad
kaoru: bad for players
bunny retweeted bbk
Zest fanboy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 27 2014 20:13 GMT
#190
On January 28 2014 05:02 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 04:58 Kennigit wrote:
Some thoughts, since the reaction is as mixed as we expected.

IEM's 5 events leading up to IEM Katowice have 125k in combined prize money.

- 40 fully paid travel + hotel throughout the season
- Guaranteed 350$ if you made it through open bracket to group stage
- Open brackets at the main season events
- Open bracket spots available at cologne

IEM does more than most to support the SC2 player player space and what we realized is that as important at it is, we want Katowice to be special - it's not about giving a little bit to everyone. The Starcraft 2 community is now competing against the likes of Dota 2, LoL and even CS:GO which will have a 250,000$ prize pool going on at the same time. If you want to talk and complain about Alive Game, then you have to take risks and make shit happen. Following the model of the last 3 years when there exists a WCS system to support players internationally just wont cut it.

Katowice is not for every mid tier player and it might not even be for a few of the players who managed to win an event stop.
I expect someone will drop out who qualified if they think they cant win.

Is it a bit nuts? Yes. Could someone throw a match? Yes. Could players come up with an agreement between themselves to split it 16 ways? Yes. Do i think Naniwa is going to keep his word and split 100k with the likes of Korean players he has shit on in the past? Would they split it back with him or take it to their team instead? I have no clue. Is someone going to choke, get cheesed 3 games in a row and have wasted a day of work? Probably. Is it going to be emotional? Yes.

And that is exactly why we are doing it.




So basically, fuck everything, It's dramatic.

Yep. And there are other events this year, play in those if you want money for taking 3rd.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 27 2014 20:13 GMT
#191
On January 28 2014 05:11 ThePlagueJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?


ThorZaIN says it's a bad decision.

Hes got personal experience.


Should've made a split in silent like Naniwa and Scarlett did. I doubt anybody will hold something like that against the players.
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
January 27 2014 20:14 GMT
#192
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 27 2014 20:14 GMT
#193
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#194
On January 28 2014 05:09 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:07 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:04 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:03 Musicus wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:00 NovaMB wrote:
On January 28 2014 04:58 Kennigit wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Some thoughts, since the reaction is as mixed as we expected.

IEM's 5 events leading up to IEM Katowice have 125k in combined prize money.

- 40 fully paid travel + hotel throughout the season
- Guaranteed 350$ if you made it through open bracket to group stage
- Open brackets at the main season events
- Open bracket spots available at cologne

IEM does more than most to support the SC2 player player space and what we realized is that as important at it is, we want Katowice to be special - it's not about giving a little bit to everyone. The Starcraft 2 community is now competing against the likes of Dota 2, LoL and even CS:GO which will have a 250,000$ prize pool going on at the same time. If you want to talk and complain about Alive Game, then you have to take risks and make shit happen. Following the model of the last 3 years when there exists a WCS system to support players internationally just wont cut it.

Katowice is not for every mid tier player and it might not even be for a few of the players who managed to win an event stop.
I expect someone will drop out who qualified if they think they cant win.

Is it a bit nuts? Yes. Could someone throw a match? Yes. Could players come up with an agreement between themselves to split it 16 ways? Yes. Do i think Naniwa is going to keep his word and split 100k with the likes of Korean players he has shit on in the past? Would they split it back with him or take it to their team instead? I have no clue. Is someone going to choke, get cheesed 3 games in a row and have wasted a day of work? Probably. Is it going to be emotional? Yes.

And that is exactly why we are doing it.



Please Kennigit, if you are really doing this, dont invite any players. Let everyone fight to get there. Inviting would be the worst thing you could do to this.


I don't think you have to worry about invites. There was never an invite to the IEM WC afaik.

The announcement states that the last 6 players will be determined through qualifiers/invites.

The six remaining places will be decided through a series of invites and open qualifiers with more information on the specifics coming in near future.


As the posters before me, I hope that the invites will at least be based on something sound, like WCS performance etc. Though a qualifier would be the best solution, imo, but who would really try to qualifiy for an insane format like this? I guess a free trip to Katowice is nice, but apart from that...


The problem with WCS invites is, none of the regions will even be finished by the IEM WC. So the highest rated players in the WCS rankings will be the winners of Asus Rog, IEM Sao Paolo and IEM Cologne. And the IEM winners will be there anyway


Well, you can always take the performance in the past WCS, which makes more sense than the current WCS since it is not finished as you point out. Either way, I just hope that it will be something sound.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
January 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#195
Well IMO this is the single most stupid idea of tournament I ever heard about. Hopefully this is trolling.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#196
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

I really want to see that. :D
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#197
On January 28 2014 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?


if they really do invites they're just going for the most awful combo possible...
Zest fanboy.
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
January 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#198
On January 28 2014 05:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:11 ThePlagueJG wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:09 Xoronius wrote:
So, from twitter I heard the following opinions:

HasuObs says, that it is a bad decision
Babyknight says, that it is a bad decision
TargA says, that it is a bad decision
Bly says, that it is a bad decision
HerO says, that it is a bad decision
Goswser says, that it is a bad decision

Did I miss anyone?


ThorZaIN says it's a bad decision.

Hes got personal experience.


Should've made a split in silent like Naniwa and Scarlett did. I doubt anybody will hold something like that against the players.


Fully agree! Atleast I hope they do this and then subtly release some info about it
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#199
On January 28 2014 05:14 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:14 messioso wrote:
More details on the final 6 slots are incoming. People will not be disappointed.

Top 4 Blizzcon?

put every active pro gamer's name in a hat. draw out names
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#200
On January 28 2014 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 05:12 Shellshock wrote:
On January 28 2014 05:10 Fionn wrote:
I'm cool with this if they:

A) Bring back that heart meter thing
B) Finish up the Ro4 on the second to last day so that you can hype the $100,000 finals for an entire day
C) Have a gigantic briefcase for the winning player to grab when they win
D) Somehow get MarineKing into the finals

game 5 has to be played in BW
game 6 has to be played in SC2BW
game 7 has to be played in Starbow?

Decider is 1v1 shadowfiend.
Fk it let's make it the greatest BO7 show ever, seven matches of seven games for 100k
Game 1: SC2
Game 2: StarStrikers
Game 3: Starbow
Game 4: Brood War
Game 5: WC3
Game 6: 1v1 shadowfiend
Game 7: Starcraft 64


And a showmatch with Dota2
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