I agree, the ghost looks super imba on paper.
Design wise i dont like that spell either. You spam it wildly around you on the enemy, not much thought behind it.

On paper, its pretty much hit that spell and amove your bio units (in tvz)'
EDIT: iam talking about the shock spell. The silence/disarm aoe that lasts for 6sec for 50mana.

EDIT2:
I tried ghost ingame.
Only mechanical units gets slowed and disarmed?
Patch notes said everyunit gets disarmed.
Or it says disabled, i looked it up. My bad

coZy

United States65 Posts

February 19 2014 21:33 GMT

#4128

I'm looking at the roach unit box in the larva creation, and it says you can morph roaches from an Impaler Den or Roach Warren? Either I'm blind or there's no Impaler Den and this is a mistake. Just thought I'd let people know, in case it hasn't been said before.

Xiphias

Norway2223 Posts

February 19 2014 21:36 GMT

#4129

On February 20 2014 06:12 WarpTV wrote:
We need a tool to report players AFK

Yes! It's on the "wish list". We need a more stable server first.

SCST

Mexico1609 Posts

February 19 2014 21:43 GMT

#4130

Hearing alot of balance complaints that aren't backed up with evidence. Post replays or vods so that people can see what you're talking about.

Also, "on paper" imbalance complaints are pretty ridiculous. So you've never seen the imbalance, you just *speculate* that it *might* be imbalanced based on reviewing the unit's stats? With ladder and matchmaking working, there's no excuse for complaining about imbalance without showing actual gameplay footage. If it's a serious problem, I'm sure people will make the effort to back up claims.

Foxxan

Sweden3427 Posts

February 19 2014 21:54 GMT

#4131

On February 20 2014 06:43 SCST wrote:
Hearing alot of balance complaints that aren't backed up with evidence. Post replays or vods so that people can see what you're talking about.

Also, "on paper" imbalance complaints are pretty ridiculous. So you've never seen the imbalance, you just *speculate* that it *might* be imbalanced based on reviewing the unit's stats? With ladder and matchmaking working, there's no excuse for complaining about imbalance without showing actual gameplay footage. If it's a serious problem, I'm sure people will make the effort to back up claims.

I read the spell wrong. I missed the disabled part, i thought every unit got disarmed but it turned out to be only mechanical.

And dont tell me i just "speculate", i observe it on "paper"
You got it right?
Its just some words, you think iam a fucking idiot that thinks "on paper" = solid proof thats imbalance?

Dragonei

Spain28 Posts

February 19 2014 21:55 GMT

#4132

There's no point balacing a game with no meta. Starbow right now isnt old enough to have a Metagame. You need to let grow it by now not balance every thing you see "imba". Because today baneling or ghost or Peter is imba but tomorrow someone discovers a new build o composition more "imba" and that counters the other one... That's my opinion.. Dont know if developers think like me..

itsMAHVELbaybee

292 Posts

February 19 2014 23:52 GMT

#4133

I haven't experimented with ghosts yet to be fair. I think for right now, you should appreciate at least how they're being used and seeing how much mileage(and entertainment value) players get from them. Balance isn't a focus. I could understand if getting all your shit shocked and losing the entire seems "unfair" but that's the beauty of Starbow(at this stage!!).

You can develop your own crazy tactics and develop your own play style and turn the tables.

Like example: I've been playing a TvP style that abuses the gravity lifters upgrade to lift sieged siege tanks. Using an extremely mobile vulture/dropship/tank army. Not because I saw someone else doing it, but just because I thought it'd be a cool way to play TvP.

Code

Canada634 Posts

February 20 2014 00:07 GMT

#4134

I dont think the Ghost changes are overboard or "not letting the meta" play out. People are concerned about too many balance patches but this is the time to play around during the beta. The unit wasn't "finished" with what they had in mind and i think the changes are fine for now.

There were a couple strats vs P that were really good since cloak came really fast. Even if you had an obs ready.. they get scanned and sniped quickly (or if you went Stargate they are so fast they can outrun the Sentinal detection pretty easily)

Then add the fact that they outranged your cannons, and your only ranged unit that can kill them early game do half damage to them...the Ghost rush was a little crazy.

rebuffering

Canada2436 Posts

February 20 2014 00:49 GMT

#4135

Startin up my stream if anyone wants to see some fails!! http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg

I may be playing Z vs Terran only, since im so sick of TvT, they take like 30+ mins, and personally aren't fun for me. So ill probably lose a lot of ZvT lol. gg gl.

WarpTV

205 Posts

February 20 2014 01:57 GMT

#4136

I don't think I will latter until map Veto is out Detestation is just not balanced. It never was.

Daumen

Germany1073 Posts

February 20 2014 02:34 GMT

#4137

lol, i just played vs Beastyqt on the ladder ;D and I didnt suck thaaat bad i think ;D yay

Hider

Denmark9366 Posts

February 20 2014 02:55 GMT

#4138

On February 20 2014 09:49 rebuffering wrote:
Startin up my stream if anyone wants to see some fails!! http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg

I may be playing Z vs Terran only, since im so sick of TvT, they take like 30+ mins, and personally aren't fun for me. So ill probably lose a lot of ZvT lol. gg gl.

Really? I think my average TvT lenght is around 15 mins. Maybe your just playing passively?

elmerpogs

Philippines441 Posts

February 20 2014 03:04 GMT

#4139

Out of matchmaking, will there be a way to play a ranked game with your friends? It's like me and my friend wants bo7 match using Eros client, can this be possible?I havent played much SB on the ladder.I've successfully installed the client and played 2 games resulting to 0-2 stats.

SCST

Mexico1609 Posts

February 20 2014 03:06 GMT

#4140

On February 20 2014 06:54 Foxxan wrote:

Show nested quote +

Or you'll do what? Pound on your desk and send me an offensive PM? Probably not a good idea considering your ban history.

And I don't think you're an idiot. I think the idea of anyone making a complaint about imbalance without actually seeing or experiencing said imbalance is being ridiculous. Key word there is "ridiculous". Hence my suggestion of vods/replays so that people will take your complaint seriously.