EPTAs you can see form below, the roach is not in the hotkey menu
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This is for NA. is there any way I can fix it on my end? Also, the default hotkey for roach burrow is "R" but it does not work for me in game as "R" is used as Attack move command.
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WarpTV
205 Posts
As you can see form below, the roach is not in the hotkey menu This is for NA. is there any way I can fix it on my end? Also, the default hotkey for roach burrow is "R" but it does not work for me in game as "R" is used as Attack move command. . | ||
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
On January 31 2014 03:44 WarpTV wrote: BUG: As you can see form below, the roach is not in the hotkey menu This is for NA. is there any way I can fix it on my end? Also, the default hotkey for roach burrow is "R" but it does not work for me in game as "R" is used as Attack move command. . Also, there is no viper nest  , same issue since ever, but some people swear it works for them, however none of them posted a screenshot yet. | ||
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Koz
Brazil13 Posts
On January 31 2014 03:24 haitike wrote: Zerg struggled because they were very very very weak in ZvT matchup, and Terran was the most played race. But Zerg was strong in ZvP. This! Zerg only struggled against terrans. But at that time zergs generally dominated toss hard. Except on island/semi island maps. Zergs were so late in winning a OSL because Nada, Boxer and Oov =] | ||
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Doominator10
United States515 Posts
On January 31 2014 02:06 coZy wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/tylzy I started streaming yesterday night. Not really high level play, but still some gameplay footage. sticky first page please EDIT: Oh it is. Well then. Good job +1 (whispers quietly avilo sometimes streams starbow) *runs away in terror* RE-EDIT: The main page under "how do spider mines work" still says that they have a detonate ability at 5.25 range. I believe that was nerfed to 4.something Fyi. | ||
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WarpTV
205 Posts
On January 31 2014 03:58 HaRuHi wrote: Also, there is no viper nest , same issue since ever, but some people swear it works for them, however none of them posted a screenshot yet.Yea, I am happy it is working for them, But I need to to work for me! | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
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Doominator10
United States515 Posts
On January 31 2014 05:35 Xiphias wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1wl2v5/starbow_invitational_tournament_announced/ yey! It's already been ~10minutes and only a single thread on it? Need moar hype! | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1652 Posts
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huller20
United States112 Posts
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TheWorldToCome
United States452 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On January 31 2014 05:49 StarscreamG1 wrote: Starbow Nydus Worm Gotta love it xD Wow, I didn't even know that it worked that way. That actually might be quite imbalanced, but we need to give it a bit more time. I really like that though. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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RESOqub
51 Posts
I'm sure its down to the different design but while I really like some aspects of it (micro and tank control) I can't stand the changes made to the macro element. This is as a Terran, by the way. This mod would be much more interesting if they could find a way to normalize the macro element to standard SC2 maps with a similar fast paced macro rhythm and control structure while keeping the interesting unit control elements. It's even little things that seem to have been done for purely pedantic reasons and to preserve BW build orders over SC2 build orders - a supply depot building in 36s instead of 30s. Why was this even done? The best part of SC2 is the fast paced, enjoyable feel of the gameplay. Why is this mod preserving the more irritating, inexact bits of BW over the best bits of SC2? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On January 31 2014 06:46 RESOqub wrote: There's something that feels off about the way this plays. Numbers don't line up right. Gasses don't line up right. It seems to breed passivity in most low level players who play it. I'm sure its down to the different design but while I really like some aspects of it (micro and tank control) I can't stand the changes made to the macro element. This is as a Terran, by the way. This mod would be much more interesting if they could find a way to normalize the macro element to standard SC2 maps with a similar fast paced macro rhythm and control structure while keeping the interesting unit control elements. It's even little things that seem to have been done for purely pedantic reasons and to preserve BW build orders over SC2 build orders - a supply depot building in 36s instead of 30s. Why was this even done? The best part of SC2 is the fast paced, enjoyable feel of the gameplay. Why is this mod preserving the more irritating, inexact bits of BW over the best bits of SC2? No we don't want 3 base sit into 200/200 battle that ends in seconds. We want to have consistent battles all over maps to fight for resources into war of attrition. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On January 31 2014 06:50 Xiphos wrote: No we don't want 3 base sit into 200/200 battle that ends in seconds. We want to have consistent battles all over maps to fight for resources into war of attrition. by that reasoning everyone should just play at the slower speed. | ||
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TopRamen
United States96 Posts
On January 31 2014 06:46 RESOqub wrote: There's something that feels off about the way this plays. Numbers don't line up right. Gasses don't line up right. It seems to breed passivity in most low level players who play it. I'm sure its down to the different design but while I really like some aspects of it (micro and tank control) I can't stand the changes made to the macro element. This is as a Terran, by the way. This mod would be much more interesting if they could find a way to normalize the macro element to standard SC2 maps with a similar fast paced macro rhythm and control structure while keeping the interesting unit control elements. It's even little things that seem to have been done for purely pedantic reasons and to preserve BW build orders over SC2 build orders - a supply depot building in 36s instead of 30s. Why was this even done? The best part of SC2 is the fast paced, enjoyable feel of the gameplay. Why is this mod preserving the more irritating, inexact bits of BW over the best bits of SC2? On January 31 2014 07:04 Cheerio wrote: by that reasoning everyone should just play at the slower speed. Well... it's that there isn't enough demand (too much supply) in a SC2 style economy. We always get stuck in 3 base vs 3 base scenarios and there isn't much incentive to expand beyond those 3 bases except for economical longevity. @RESOqub One of the goals of this mod is to create games where we don't have deathball scenarios (I think it still happens, but you can get way more value out of spread/micro'd units). I don't know if you want deathball type scenarios (if you are, i'd like to note that this mod is sort of a fan sequel to BW), but i'll do my best to explain why we must go through these changes required to make this happen. In order to have games where we fight all over the map, we have to lower the high income economy of SC2. SC2 has a virtual 3 base ceiling in terms of economy, don't need anymore than 60-70 workers ish. That max income is easy to achieve in SC2, this is not the case in BW where you must take many bases to do so. The initially slowed down income starts slower than a game of SC2, but after that slow start in BW(or Starbow), it really takes off. @Cheerio, I don't think playing the game at slower speed would solve anything other than giving both players more time to make actions, i.e. wouldn't create situations where we fight all over the map. But we can try it and see what happens. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
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NapkinBox
United States314 Posts
On January 31 2014 07:34 labbe wrote: Suggestion: Remove supply depot dependency for building Barracks. IIRC they changed this back in WoL when 2racks cheese was very common, however, it was never needed in brood war. Honestly the option to go fast barracks is a nice option if it's not breaking the game, which I don't see why it would in Starbow. 8 rax openings please~ | ||
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
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404AlphaSquad
839 Posts
On January 31 2014 09:21 StutteR wrote: Dragoons always reminded me of 4 legged tarantulas. I think their design in SC2 leaves much to be desired What bothers me more are the so called "spidermines". They are so unlike the bw mine. They are way less efficient. Cause they take so long to hit, mine drags are insanely effective as soon as a detector is out, no mine hits EVER. as soon as the opponent has a decent amount of goons out, you cant hit ever anything with them. Reapers are the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I played a game vs hider which basically shows how OP they are. Sentinels not sure what to say about them, cause they win a lot of game outright with proxy robos. The damage of their basic attack needs to be looked at imo. Revert it back to 5 ? | ||
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