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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
According to Daily Esports, Boxer has signed a deal to become the main model for the game/poker site "Fulpot Poker" developed by Me2On. In addition to this deal, he will become a professional poker player. Boxer is set to compete in online tournaments in Fulpot Poker, and he plans to compete in the Asian Poker Tour and as well as the World Series of Poker. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/axEa1DR.jpg) 
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
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perfidiusrex
Belgium78 Posts
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digmouse
China6329 Posts
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rift
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the emperor becomes a fish | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44171 Posts
I hope he finds happiness there though. | ||
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Grouch
Canada152 Posts
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
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Nerevar
547 Posts
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perfidiusrex
Belgium78 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:38 rift wrote: painful feeling in pit of stomach why?why is everybody so depressed.he found something to do.what did you expect from him? | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19226 Posts
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:39 radscorpion9 wrote: I find this connection between Starcraft 2 and poker fascinating. I can't imagine it'll be easy for him, but possibly it will be more likely to achieve something than continuing to make it 'work' with SC2 It's not just SC2. A number of SC1 pros have gone to poker as well, namely Elky and rekrul. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:39 Nerevar wrote: End of an era. A long era. BoxeR finally out of Starcraft for good? With the reality series and no longer managing SK? I thought it goes without saying. I wonder how Jessica will take it when he loses some big hands. | ||
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FluffyBinLaden
United States527 Posts
I knew my 500th post should have been saved, it's appropriate it's about Boxer. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
Would be cool to see a korean "poker boom", if there hasn't been already. Feels like poker has been getting less and less attention since black friday | ||
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Srontgorrth
United States204 Posts
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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-niL
Canada1131 Posts
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perfidiusrex
Belgium78 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:40 Nerevar wrote: It's not just SC2. A number of SC1 pros have gone to poker as well, namely Elky and rekrul. would be cool to have a small former bw and sc2 pro poker championship and stream it on twitch  | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/66563.jpg?1324977161) shall I deal you in?-yellow | ||
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freakhill
Japan463 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:48 freakhill wrote: Can't help but read this post in SNM's voice. Aren't SNM voices usually muffled by some kind of mouth-zippered rubber mask? User was warned for this post | ||
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freakhill
Japan463 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:50 Zorkmid wrote: Aren't SNM voices usually muffled by some kind of mouth-zippered rubber mask? That makes it hard to read... | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
After reading his biography, I'm sure he has all the qualities required to be a great poker player. BoxeR hwaiting! | ||
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KiWiKaKi
Canada691 Posts
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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malady
United States600 Posts
gg gl | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
Poker is killing esports | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Arkanthiel
Philippines100 Posts
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:58 Jarree wrote: "Professional poker player". Yeah right, pretty face for a company and a big loser in games is my guess. He's sponsored. There's no need to put it in quotations. He is being paid to play poker. By definition he's a professional. So edgy tho. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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EpicDemente
Chile202 Posts
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Miss_Foxy
Singapore109 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:07 Miss_Foxy wrote: Who knows, he might still play Starcraft/Starcraft 2 part-time, it didn't say he's going to be a full-time professional poker player or saying he's out of Starcraft for good. He wasn't really playing currently, he was coaching. | ||
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:57 KiWiKaKi wrote: one does not simply.... become a poker pro Hehehe. We just need Jinro and Elky to comment now. | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:03 hariooo wrote: He's sponsored. There's no need to put it in quotations. He is being paid to play poker. By definition he's a professional. So edgy tho. Well after being a professional poker player for maybe 7-8 years I can tell you that no winning player would call him a "professional poker player". Maybe something like a mascot for a football team, he get's paid also but isn't a professional football player, even if he kicks the ball in the half-time. Also see Kiwikaki's post. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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Rinny
United States616 Posts
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:07 Miss_Foxy wrote: Who knows, he might still play Starcraft/Starcraft 2 part-time, it didn't say he's going to be a full-time professional poker player or saying he's out of Starcraft for good. He's been out of Starcraft the moment he stepped down from coaching SKT. His shoulder injury means Starcraft isn't a realistic career choice anymore, especially with its declining popularity in Korea. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:08 Nerevar wrote: Hehehe. We just need Jinro and Elky to comment now. And KiwiKaki. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Nerevar
547 Posts
Bro, that is KiWiKaKi. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:37 digmouse wrote: Not that surprised tbh, yellow was/is a poker player as well iirc. Jinro did the same thing... | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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SunflowerSeeds
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Miss_Foxy
Singapore109 Posts
Considering that fact that none of the bonjwas have actually left the Starcraft/Starcraft 2 scene. Current Bonjwas: iloveoov: SKT Starcraft 2 Coach NaDa: AZUBU Starcraft 2 Coach Flash: Plays Starcraft 2 saviOr: Plays Starcraft Brood War Boxer: Plays | ||
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:14 Miss_Foxy wrote: He could still coach part-time, just that it's not going to be a full time coaching career. Considering that fact that none of the bonjwas have actually left the Starcraft/Starcraft 2 scene (iloveoov: SKT Coach / NaDa: Plays Starcraft 2 / Flash: Plays Starcraft 2 / saviOr: Plays Starcraft Brood War) NaDa plays World of Tanks last I saw. I dunno if he is still doing coaching on Azubu. | ||
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Nightsz
Canada398 Posts
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
I guess well I didnt really see that coming | ||
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rezzan
Sweden329 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:46 -niL wrote: He's now out of the starcraft scene? hes pretty much been outha sc2 scene since starcraft 2. good luck boxer- your kind is to good for todays sc2 players anyway  | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:14 Miss_Foxy wrote: He could still coach part-time, just that it's not going to be a full time coaching career. Considering that fact that none of the bonjwas have actually left the Starcraft/Starcraft 2 scene. Current Bonjwas: iloveoov: SKT Starcraft 2 Coach NaDa: Plays Starcraft 2 Flash: Plays Starcraft 2 saviOr: Plays Starcraft Brood War Boxer: Plays Poker I'm pretty sure NaDa doesn't play anymore. He's in the army or playing something else afaik | ||
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bosnia
Canada223 Posts
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cCav
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lightsentry
413 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:17 Noocta wrote: I'm pretty sure NaDa doesn't play anymore. He's in the army, right ? I thought he was playing world of tanks or something, but I haven't been keeping up, pretty curious as well. | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:57 KiWiKaKi wrote: one does not simply.... become a poker pro Really, KiwiKaKi? Are you really going to resume the meme spree after you got banned? smh On topic, I'm sad that Boxer is no longer part of the SC2 scene SKT1 just doesn't feel the same anymore without the handsome and well-dressed Boxer | ||
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:19 lightsentry wrote: I thought he was playing world of tanks or something, but I haven't been keeping up, pretty curious as well. Actually, he did join the army in July. His World of Tanks stint was in April I think. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=421563 | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Jmanthedragonguy
Canada1202 Posts
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templar rage
United States2509 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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DekkuM
United States149 Posts
Be a head coach of a Kespa team: check Be on a reality TV show: check Advertise for a poker company: check Beat Reach in his fairwell BW match: aaaaw darn | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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mhael
United States102 Posts
APM!!! | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
Go, go, Emperor fighting! Guys, what the fuck, seriously. This is so fucking cool. | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:27 mhael wrote: Is he going to be a dealer? APM!!! THIS. lol. Did people forget he no longer coaches for SKT? I was wondering what he was going to be doing since he really has no "profession" right now, so I wasn't really surprised. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
also deciding to become a poker pro in 2013 is kinda funny, the state of the games atm, there's a huge learning curve ahead of him | ||
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Abstinence
United States328 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
I wanted to see him back in the booth, man. | ||
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I_love_sharkpeople
United States253 Posts
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
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ZombieGrub
United States694 Posts
Maybe I'll actually watch poker lol. :D | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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Moka
Canada942 Posts
My hopes are squashed | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:43 Arceus wrote: anyone knows hows Freedom these days? Last time I heard he was pretty successful who is freedom? | ||
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Sub40APM
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Kage
India788 Posts
On another note, I'm really excited he's doing this. SC2 is not a viable career for anyone except in casting and at the very top of competition. He won't be a professional in poker so quickly, but atleast he's going to be doing something that earns him money and accolades. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:47 Sub40APM wrote: I thought poker took a pretty big hit as a job when the US government ceased that one online operation, killing the biggest market? Did I get that wrong? you didn't, games got a LOT harder online since that passed, not to mention we can't play with the french and italians anymore and god knows they were awful still money to be made but for someone who's just starting it's gonna be a heck of a ride | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_Yong-Suk | ||
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SolarJto
United States260 Posts
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Shortizz
Singapore129 Posts
I hope he doesnt walk into something shady. | ||
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Blargh
United States2101 Posts
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
Im actually happy for boxer , I think he mechanics failed him as a pro sc2 player , but his mind was still as sharp as it has always been , so poker should be a good fit. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:39 jax1492 wrote: me too! and he would win at reading a phonebook so hard!I would watch boxer read a phonebook ... he is the man. gl boxer, crush everybody in poker and get those bracelets | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:53 ROOTFayth wrote: you didn't, games got a LOT harder online since that passed, not to mention we can't play with the french and italians anymore and god knows they were awful still money to be made but for someone who's just starting it's gonna be a heck of a ride It's slowly opening up in the USA again with a couple sites allowing Nevada and now New Jersey players to join. It's not much but there's hope! | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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birdaholic
United States67 Posts
show dem Poker-Face | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Farewell Boxer | ||
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
Anyone know if boxer is good at poker at all? | ||
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Smuft
Canada318 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:07 ROOTFayth wrote: i just downloaded fulpot poker and there are 1000/2000 games running, I assume this is korean currency? nah dude korean people are mad balling, havent u seen o bba gangnam style? real $ | ||
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DPK
Canada487 Posts
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TaishiCi
Korea (South)211 Posts
Say it aint so. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:42 StarStruck wrote: With the reality series and no longer managing SK? I thought it goes without saying. I wonder how Jessica will take it when he loses some big hands. Imagine people knowing him for his all in. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:23 Smuft wrote: nah dude korean people are mad balling, havent u seen o bba gangnam style? real $ hahahaha | ||
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Missing-No
Canada50 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
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Shortizz
Singapore129 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:53 ROOTFayth wrote: you didn't, games got a LOT harder online since that passed, not to mention we can't play with the french and italians anymore and god knows they were awful still money to be made but for someone who's just starting it's gonna be a heck of a ride Er... Games were much better when the americans were around. Not saying all of them are, but alot of the fishes are from the US. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
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belgid
Israel13 Posts
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Hydro033
United States136 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:39 radscorpion9 wrote: I find this connection between Starcraft 2 and poker fascinating. I can't imagine it'll be easy for him, but possibly it will be more likely to achieve something than continuing to make it 'work' with SC2 Yes. Can someone give me an adequate explanation to this? | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:35 Erosive wrote: BoxeR is 33.. what do you expect? A grown man playing a kids game for the rest of his life? GOGO BoxeR, become the best at poker just like Starcraft =D! Starcraft is not a kids game though... | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
However it seems like its a modelling/promotional thing. Who knows, maybe he'll face Kong or Elky again. | ||
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A HvmpingD0gi
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:41 Shortizz wrote: Er... Games were much better when the americans were around. Not saying all of them are, but alot of the fishes are from the US. isn't this exactly what I just said haha | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:47 Hydro033 wrote: Yes. Can someone give me an adequate explanation to this? just that both are competitive, both requires a lot of hardwork/dedication to succeed at and well a lot more money to be made from poker than starcraft so kind of a natural transition | ||
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ETisME
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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GuiBz
Canada108 Posts
First Korean poker player It helps to start with an huge bankroll$$$ | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Still good luck! | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:05 Scarecrow wrote: Not sure how it'll work seeing as I'm 99% sure it's illegal here (Korean citizens aren't allowed in the casinos - maybe there's a loophole for doing it online?) Why would it be illegal? I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that LastShadow played poker to earn money while he was almost homeless. Not sure though. Either way, Boxer going down the poker road is pretty lame for esports. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Rhythmic
Russian Federation14 Posts
wait are you serious?! | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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VisonKai
United States2203 Posts
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wishr
Russian Federation262 Posts
Anyway, poker is nice | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:09 TAMinator wrote: Why would it be illegal? I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that LastShadow played poker to earn money while he was almost homeless. Not sure though. Lastshadow's not Korean. Foreigners are free to play in the casino's here. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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T.O.P
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Gruntt
United States175 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:46 -niL wrote: He's now out of the starcraft scene? People move on. As people get older, they move away from competitive RTS. | ||
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blinken
Canada368 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:57 KiWiKaKi wrote: one does not simply.... become a poker pro Tell me, friend. When did Kiwikaki the wise abandon reason for madness? This is the emperor you speak of... | ||
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seak99
Canada69 Posts
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seak99
Canada69 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Shortizz
Singapore129 Posts
I played back in 2007 and the just recently. The best way i can describe it to you guys would probably be 2007, gold and 2013 GM level. Was a pretty decent winner back in the day but barely breakeven pre-rakeback now. Dont think Boxer is supposed to actually play and beat the game though, probably ambassador or promotion purpose. | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
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Gruntt
United States175 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:29 Antisocialmunky wrote: They should print Starcraft Themed Playing Cards so Boxer could beat Yellow with 3 of a kind Bunkers. lol best comment in thread | ||
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Lucumo
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dogmode
Philippines491 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:57 ROOTFayth wrote: just that both are competitive, both requires a lot of hardwork/dedication to succeed at and well a lot more money to be made from poker than starcraft so kind of a natural transition but then again many other things can be described that way? oh well, still best of luck to BoxeR! | ||
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:29 Antisocialmunky wrote: They should print Starcraft Themed Playing Cards so Boxer could beat Yellow with 3 of a kind Bunkers. A full house: 3 Bunkers and 2 Raxes. YellOw's double Hatches don't stand a chance to this all-in. | ||
Liquid`Zephyr
United States996 Posts
well see you soon boxer! | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:39 dogmode wrote: but then again many other things can be described that way? oh well, still best of luck to BoxeR! well I guess you can add that you can make ur money in front of ur computer, so it's closer to e-sports than an actual professional athlete | ||
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InfusedTT.DaZe
Romania693 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:57 ROOTFayth wrote: Those things can be said about almost anything competitive though.just that both are competitive, both requires a lot of hardwork/dedication to succeed at and well a lot more money to be made from poker than starcraft so kind of a natural transition I think the main similarity is the long-term patient observation of people's style patterns. You play a ton of games, and in one game almost anything could happen, because the game is volatile. But in the course of multiple games there are patterns to study and counter. You also have to be aware of your own style image and play around the expectations of your opponent. | ||
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Dreamsmasher2
Canada38 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:09 TAMinator wrote: Why would it be illegal? I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that LastShadow played poker to earn money while he was almost homeless. Not sure though. Either way, Boxer going down the poker road is pretty lame for esports. Anyone with a foreign passport can gamble to their heart's content at any casino in Korea however Korean nationals can only gamble at one special casino (Gangwonland) which is miles away from Seoul or any other big city. As for online gambling I'm pretty sure it is illegal to gamble any large amounts as several celebrities recently got in trouble for it, however this site may be using a loophole (small bets or play money that can later be exchanged for real money). Edit- Hmm, looking at the web site, it looks like they may be based in the Phillippines rather than Korea. | ||
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rrwrwx
United States247 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:57 KiWiKaKi wrote: one does not simply.... become a poker pro Hey! You said you'd be back! Why aren't you back! | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Daswollvieh
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On December 06 2013 16:06 GolemMadness wrote: Who's the SKT coach now? Oov came back. | ||
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Creager
Germany1890 Posts
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Footler
United States560 Posts
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Yurie
11799 Posts
On December 06 2013 16:03 rrwrwx wrote: And so, my dreams of seeing BoxeR win one last tournament go down in flames. . . Didn't the chances just go up compared to earlier? | ||
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TelecoM
United States10668 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Baadbeat
France203 Posts
But it is really incredible the number of ex BW and SC2 players that have fled to poker. There are really alot of similarities between starcraft and poker imho, both need agressivity, being able to read your oponent (in starcraft, not only scouting but also being able to cheese your oponent on theright map in a boX), and mental strenght (even if you are not in a good position, you have to think that you can always come back) I hope to see Boxer in pro tournaments. I would also love to see a poker tourney with ex RTS players, even though I would give an edge to ElkY! | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:02 Jer99 wrote: First Darkforce now Boxer Poker is killing esports I dont play poker! | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
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for_the_swarm
United States48 Posts
i have a feeling hes just the poster boy for the site. They give him an account, pay for him to play in couple major tournaments to get publicity and get the site rolling. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 06 2013 16:44 for_the_swarm wrote: "Boxer has signed a deal to become the main model for the game/poker site "Fulpot Poker" i have a feeling hes just the poster boy for the site. They give him an account, pay for him to play in couple major tournaments to get publicity and get the site rolling. Not that much of a stretch, considering he's been a poster boy for other games in the past (even when he was still playing SC2, he was promoting other games). At least this one he can actually try making a career out of it. | ||
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TaishiCi
Korea (South)211 Posts
On December 06 2013 16:55 WolfintheSheep wrote: Not that much of a stretch, considering he's been a poster boy for other games in the past (even when he was still playing SC2, he was promoting other games). At least this one he can actually try making a career out of it. The main model thing kinda throws me off. I know Korean malls and companies hire "celebrities" to be a part of the "attraction" to the products. Is he going to be a professional poker player or be the face of this company's marketing? Smells more like he is doing this as a side job, which he needs to promote through other activities. I can't see him a serious contender at world series at Vegas, but he shouldn't have trouble making headlines in the Korean media. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
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CloudMage
Canada221 Posts
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Discarder
Philippines411 Posts
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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theatreofwar
Canada60 Posts
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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Teusa
Sweden30 Posts
Well I guess he has to make a living, I´d do the same. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51479 Posts
 Looking forward to seeing him in the WSOP... Not be stereotypical here, but being asian and a gambler i have no doubt he is good! Ivy vs Boxer finals incoming!! ooo Maybe a sc2 match vs Kiwikaki ? :o | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12148 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:36 Dontkillme wrote: you cant micro poker chip boxer You can, actually. It's just not that useful^^ | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On December 06 2013 17:46 Pandemona wrote: Poker...nice Looking forward to seeing him in the WSOP... Not be stereotypical here, but being asian and a gambler i have no doubt he is good! Ivy vs Boxer finals incoming!! ooo Maybe a sc2 match vs Kiwikaki ? :o Bo3 in WSOP. 1 BW 1 Poker 1 SC2 | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
But as long as he is in SC2 scene, somehow, I feel, maybe he will making some thing work. It is like a, fantasy? Dream? But now, it is over. . The dream crashed.Ah, feelings is wierd, I always thought I have moved on to be Flash fan. But somehow this hurt me alot. It feels like I will never see him again or something. Unless I watch poker hahahaha. Hmm, I still catch him in Genius Season 2. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Is he gone ? No proper good bye... i'm like.. literally in shock I'm in. Tell me i'm overreacting. This guy can't quit Starcraft. | ||
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France492 Posts
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United States1704 Posts
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Austria18385 Posts
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
On December 06 2013 18:12 sigm wrote: How do you think his creative playstyle will transfer to poker? Can't exacly bunker rush there, can you? You can open shove three times in a row | ||
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oBlade
United States5519 Posts
On December 06 2013 15:00 ETisME wrote: this is really horrible, boxer is supposed to show the younger generation that you can fall back onto something in the industry even after your pro-gaming career is finished. Yeah, 15 years in the industry isn't enough, he has to stick around longer so young progamers think there are plenty of jobs for them in the industry, even though whether Boxer is still here has no bearing on how many jobs are actually available for those guys. It's not enough that countless people have gotten jobs related to progaming. Boxer has to stay forever even after the point when Jeffrey Combs reanimates him to continue slaving away at Starcraft. | ||
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perfidiusrex
Belgium78 Posts
On December 06 2013 18:30 8mmspikes wrote: Well says a lot about the Starcraft scene that Boxer is completely out of it now :/ he has been retired from playing sc2 for like 2 years now which is like a lifetime in esports.i didn't even remember him as being in sc2 anymore.what he is doing is normal considering the korea scene right now.there are many things that point to a decline in the sc2 scene.boxer's switching to poker is not one of them | ||
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Norway28 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On December 06 2013 18:19 Morphage wrote: at least it's not League of Legends ^^ Way to see the silver lining | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Completely forgot about that. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
because of him, people that have never heard of esports/starcraft will hear from it for the first time. In my opinion these are good news. Let's be honest: he didnt have any impact on starcraft in the last year whatsoever, we barely saw him anyway. we probably will hear more from him now :D | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Good luck to Boxer! | ||
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Latvia141 Posts
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Spain85 Posts
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Germany3677 Posts
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United Kingdom903 Posts
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
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Ukraine711 Posts
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Russian Federation367 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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Sweden6061 Posts
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Australia244 Posts
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WhiteWulf
Australia244 Posts
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nukkuj
Finland403 Posts
Waiting for Lim-Jin Rok in Poker :D | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On December 06 2013 17:29 synapse wrote: not sure how i feel about this.... imho you/we should feel: - Happy for Boxer - Sad for Starcraft, the scene and esports In the end as long as he is happy, everything is good, but it won't change the fact that he will be missed. Godspeed you | ||
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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LV_426
Poland432 Posts
but better late than never.. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5594 Posts
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00Visor
4337 Posts
He makes advertisement for Fulpot Poker and has to play a few tournaments. By no means he will be a "professional poker player". He won't be a winning player without much time invested. | ||
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ToXi-
Switzerland19 Posts
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
unexpected... It's not easy to become a poker pro these days. Online poker is quite difficult nowadays since many markets are seperated from each other. | ||
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forumtext
575 Posts
GG Startcraft. R.I.P | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:43 DJHelium wrote: What are the laws on gambling in Korea? Would be cool to see a korean "poker boom", if there hasn't been already. Feels like poker has been getting less and less attention since black friday Poker is plain illegal in Korea but you can find illegals "Poker Bang". There is a Casino with poker tables in Seoul but only foreigners can enter it. There are a few other Casinos in Korea that koreans can access but i think there aren't any poker table in there. Probably the law for online poker is different, anyways with BoXeR promoting the game now maybe some things will change. | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2084 Posts
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blueduck7
United States1 Post
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Hydro033
United States136 Posts
On December 06 2013 14:57 ROOTFayth wrote: just that both are competitive, both requires a lot of hardwork/dedication to succeed at and well a lot more money to be made from poker than starcraft so kind of a natural transition How are the generic qualities of competition and dedication characteristics of poker exclusively? I just don't get why poker and not other things. Why not chess, billiards or even real sports? | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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Chronos.
United States805 Posts
When I first read this I imagined this was something he would be doing for fun instead of money, though I have no idea how much money Boxer actually has. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
We shall always remember the Emperor. | ||
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shammythefox
United Kingdom286 Posts
It also goes without saying that it's an incredibly lucrative business and the potential for Starcraft 2 gaining positive publicity out of this move is hardly negligible. I wish Boxer the best of luck and I dearly hope he decides to stream some of this. | ||
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Germany25657 Posts
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On December 06 2013 23:12 XiaoJoyce- wrote: He look like 18 year old teenager. in the photo The asian discount strikes again | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On December 06 2013 22:39 Daswollvieh wrote: Lets see what damage Jessica can do in Poker. Omg this is hilarious ! I never thought of that ! brings back good memories of slayers | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:39 perfidiusrex wrote: why?why is everybody so depressed.he found something to do.what did you expect from him? coaching SKT? | ||
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dafunk
France521 Posts
On December 06 2013 22:51 Hydro033 wrote: How are the generic qualities of competition and dedication characteristics of poker exclusively? I just don't get why poker and not other things. Why not chess, billiards or even real sports? Both are games of incomplete information, rely on metagame A LOT, you've to get into your opponnents head, you've to like solo competition and spending your days on your computer doing the same thing over and over and over again. Plus, if you want to become good faster than others, playing a lot of tables at the same time on internet is really useful (you need those APMs). I'm sure theres a lot of others connections between sc and poker. ps : not to mention that to get really good at poker you've to identify what makes a good player, what moves you've to do at what time, etc | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On December 06 2013 23:54 shammythefox wrote: Why is everyone so upset about this? I was under the impression the Starcraft communities opinion on poker was fairly warm. It's fairly obvious Boxer's days as a progamer in Starcraft are behind us, whereas poker is an opportunity that requires similar characteristics in a player without the mechanical pressure of a fast paced RTS game making it a perfect platform to continue a career into middle and old age. It also goes without saying that it's an incredibly lucrative business and the potential for Starcraft 2 gaining positive publicity out of this move is hardly negligible. I wish Boxer the best of luck and I dearly hope he decides to stream some of this. I can answer this really simply. It's "another" end of an era. I'm really upset about this (in an emotional way). Sure it's good that he can follow his career. But i'm just sad that he's leaving. But maybe it's not for good. I hope we will have an awesome interview where he explain his mindset and all of that. For me, Lim Yohwan is what made me who am i today (i know it sounds silly. And i'm 30 ...). This guy tought me passion through his games. Perseverance, ambition and all of that. I found myself in high school with problem and saying in my head : "boxer wouldn't have let this down. He would have fought". Stuff like that. Irony in all of that. I'm not a SKT fan. Maybe i was a pathetic kid i don't know. But that is why i'm sad that he is ending his Starcraft presence. Hopefully it's not for good and may come back sometimes. I also hope that his physical condition is good now. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
He deserves more than being kept around as the old man. | ||
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jinsanity
United States137 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
On December 07 2013 00:22 FFW_Rude wrote: you are absolutely rightI can answer this really simply. It's "another" end of an era. I'm really upset about this (in an emotional way). Sure it's good that he can follow his career. But i'm just sad that he's leaving. But maybe it's not for good. I hope we will have an awesome interview where he explain his mindset and all of that. For me, Lim Yohwan is what made me who am i today (i know it sounds silly. And i'm 30 ...). This guy tought me passion through his games. Perseverance, ambition and all of that. I found myself in high school with problem and saying in my head : "boxer wouldn't have let this down. He would have fought". Stuff like that. Irony in all of that. I'm not a SKT fan. Maybe i was a pathetic kid i don't know. But that is why i'm sad that he is ending his Starcraft presence. Hopefully it's not for good and may come back sometimes. I also hope that his physical condition is good now. Boxer is a modern hero in korea. he made the whole starcraft programing scene possible and to be honest his game against nada (which had 3 million viewers a number no other starcraft 2 match ever achieved) probably was the reason why SC2 had some early success. His mindset when playing games, to never surrender inspired a lot of young koreans and thats why its sad that he isnt trying another time. however i can kinda see that he doesnt want to do anything with SC2 anymore after how he got treated by those slayers basterds | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On December 07 2013 00:45 farnham wrote: His mindset when playing games, to never surrender inspired a lot of young koreans and thats why its sad that he isnt trying another time. however i can kinda see that he doesnt want to do anything with SC2 anymore after how he got treated by those slayers basterds That reminds me of his game against Joyo or whoever it was on the island map where he killed all the Protoss transport units and forced a mineout on the starting islands after getting his butt kicked all game long. Scarlet with Banelings is pretty epic. The only game that ever ended up with the observers looking for transport units only to find the last Terran CC floating to the last mining base is just on a different level. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Well, I guess it seems like boxer won't be playing for money anyway if gambling is illegal in SK, so I guess there's no difference | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On December 07 2013 00:45 farnham wrote: you are absolutely right Boxer is a modern hero in korea. he made the whole starcraft programing scene possible and to be honest his game against nada (which had 3 million viewers a number no other starcraft 2 match ever achieved) probably was the reason why SC2 had some early success. His mindset when playing games, to never surrender inspired a lot of young koreans and thats why its sad that he isnt trying another time. however i can kinda see that he doesnt want to do anything with SC2 anymore after how he got treated by those slayers basterds I'm not Korean so he reached even further than Korea for me | ||
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Italy372 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 07 2013 00:52 strongandbig wrote: Ok so I thought the reason that sc players in general tend to go play poker was because of the specific transferable skills, specifically apm and high speed decision making. In other words, it was my impression that what sc players have a leg up on is playing many games online at the same time, and flipping through them very quickly, which makes it a more profitable and reliable way of making money. But being a spokesman seems like it would mean playing single high profile games at a time, which seems like it doesn't use any Starcraft skills at all? Am I missing something? Well, I guess it seems like boxer won't be playing for money anyway if gambling is illegal in SK, so I guess there's no difference well it's competitive, game of incomplete information like someone said earlier and I suppose the idea of being able to win money at the same time is more attractive than playing something like billard or chess | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
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StatixEx
United Kingdom779 Posts
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: This is so sad I hope he finds happiness there though. happiness in poker? oh please... | ||
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Akimbo
Canada104 Posts
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
A big poker table with all the ex Starcraft pros would be a lot of fun. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
I'm pretty happy fwiw, as long as you find proper balance, don't think someone playing 14 hours a day of starcraft is any happier | ||
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dogmode
Philippines491 Posts
On December 07 2013 00:52 strongandbig wrote: Ok so I thought the reason that sc players in general tend to go play poker was because of the specific transferable skills, specifically apm and high speed decision making. In other words, it was my impression that what sc players have a leg up on is playing many games online at the same time, and flipping through them very quickly, which makes it a more profitable and reliable way of making money. But being a spokesman seems like it would mean playing single high profile games at a time, which seems like it doesn't use any Starcraft skills at all? Am I missing something? Well, I guess it seems like boxer won't be playing for money anyway if gambling is illegal in SK, so I guess there's no difference this is probably the answer: On December 07 2013 02:12 Akimbo wrote: There is so many players ion poker now. the communities are just intertwined. im sure these ex-pro players are all friends/acquaintances on some level, its not a big jump to get into what people close to you are into... just look at jinro he's in poker now too right? he said it was into it a long time ago but im guessing that a factor may be because Nazgul also has links to poker (see: TLPoker) | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
I was young and ignorant when he was in his prime, but I remember how I would smile everytime he'd play. Bringing nukes, bringing back mech. Watching Fantasy play was kind of like watching a robot performing his will. My favourite Broodwar memory is a TvT when he scouts a proxy barracks so early that the opponent cancels it, only to put up his own proxy barracks at the same place! And when I finally got to see him in Korea! Before Fantasys sc2 game in the gsl studio, how Boxer brings the chair from the last games winning booth (MC had killed in that chair in the game earlier) and the poor scrub from the other team has to watch Boxer drag a superchair over the floor into Fantasys booth. The scrub cringed and Fantasy won! I guess this is the last chance to post a pic of us. I got to feel like when it all started back when I was 16, every game of brood war made my jaw drop and Boxer was praised with blind idealism. Good times! ![[image loading]](http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/3jaih.jpg) | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On December 07 2013 02:28 ROOTFayth wrote: I'm pretty happy fwiw, as long as you find proper balance, don't think someone playing 14 hours a day of starcraft is any happier how many games do you have to grind to make a reasonable living? | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On December 07 2013 02:59 Sub40APM wrote: how many games do you have to grind to make a reasonable living? All depends on what stakes you're capable of beating. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Back then  ElkY was the new guy stepping into boxer palace.And now look at how the tables switched.... I want a poker star showmatch featuring them both ! Also you never really stop loving SC,i saw elky play starcraft I & II in a french show just a few weeks ago, he was enjoying it soo much it was pretty amusing | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 07 2013 02:59 Sub40APM wrote: how many games do you have to grind to make a reasonable living? usually in poker we talk in terms of hands, not games, unless you play sit n goes I guess and yeah the question is very vague since you can play from 0.01/0.02 ($2 buy in) to 500/1000($100 000 buy in) | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
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fmod
Cayman Islands330 Posts
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canikizu
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On December 07 2013 03:17 Thieving Magpie wrote: Fuck it, I'm willing to watch Boxer's chip micro. his all-in is fascinating. | ||
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poiu
19 Posts
GL in the real adult game | ||
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Cheesus2
France3 Posts
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ppp
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Soohyung
Korea (South)116 Posts
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ooDi
Canada170 Posts
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
Good luck Boxer! | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
With Boxer's micro ability he should have no problem with 20 windows :D | ||
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United States198 Posts
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
I like playing it for 5$ with a group of friends winner takes all, but I would never attempt to make a career out of it. I can't imagine how many people destroy themselves financially each year thinking they will hit it big. *EDIT : And let's be honest, the reason so many SC players go to poker isn't because somehow their skills are transferable. It's because a lot of those people can't handle or don't want regular jobs, 9-5 shifts or anything else. Poker is just another way for them to have a "job" without real responsibilities. In Boxer's case, he gets sponsors because of his popularity so it's a decent idea for him. For most people, it's just laziness and wanting to make money without "working". | ||
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Slovenia1308 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On December 07 2013 06:46 ROOTFayth wrote: wtf laziness, we could say the same about any office job really stfu u lazy sob | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
Still, he probably should have made this move a good 8 or so years ago. | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
. Hopefully someday I will get to see boxer vs Kiwikaki in poker. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
LOL | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On December 06 2013 23:43 Nekovivie wrote: He's bluffing. He'll come back to SC2 soon :< said everyone in 2012 | ||
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Canada145 Posts
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WOPR
Canada145 Posts
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Artunit
Philippines399 Posts
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Uruguay39 Posts
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:46 -niL wrote: He's now out of the starcraft scene? Lol i think there will come a time where eventually everyone will be out of the starcraft scene, cuz everyone will outgrow the game due to other priorities and interest ppl would like to pursue, im sure you will as well. | ||
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Finland561 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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krogdog101
United States20 Posts
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Miss_Foxy
Singapore109 Posts
A little endorsement and playing poker before returning back to Starcraft in the future wouldn't be that bad. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 07 2013 09:41 11cc wrote: For a profession that exists solely for the benefit of the person practising it, poker and poker players have decent reputation. Disappointing. loool is starcraft any different | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Nedereden
777 Posts
LOL On December 06 2013 12:57 KiWiKaKi wrote: one does not simply.... become a poker pro OMG so long... Where you been mang? | ||
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
On December 07 2013 11:48 Rekrul wrote: my poker playing has benefited a lot of single mothers wats that guy talkin about How many times have you gotten divorced? | ||
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
Are you serious? All of sc2 player's money comes from benefitting someone else. Sponsors, fans, tournaments, streams. All that money comes from someone who gets something in return. | ||
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lemmata
468 Posts
As far as I can tell, no real gambling goes on there. People buy fake "game money" by paying real money and then use the "game money" to play poker. You can also receive "game money" for free every couple hours. However, it seems that you cannot turn the "game money" you win back in to real money. It's an online computer game. The "game money" also serves as a score counter, sort of like a Pac-Man high score board. In other words, the game would be completely legal in Korea because there is no actual gambling and the target audience does not seem to be serious poker players. It seems that BoxeR is essentially a glorified spokesmodel who helps advertise their mobile game. I would guess that his involvement in the real pro poker tournaments is to draw public attention to the web site. It seems similar in purpose to "Hyungjoon becomes a pro gamer", which helped advertise BW to a wider audience, but wasn't really focused on turning Hyungjoon into a real pro. I bet that video footage of BoxeR in these tournaments will be like a "BoxeR becomes a pro poker player" show to help advertise the game web site. Although I wish that he was advertising something more sexy, like cars and beer, I don't think that BoxeR intends to become a serious poker player. That is my guess...which is based mostly on gut feeling. Best of luck to the emperor as a spokesmodel... | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 07 2013 14:18 11cc wrote: Are you serious? All of sc2 player's money comes from benefitting someone else. Sponsors, fans, tournaments, streams. All that money comes from someone who gets something in return. exact same thing in poker... except maybe streams | ||
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
On December 07 2013 15:57 ROOTFayth wrote: exact same thing in poker... except maybe streams no | ||
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BadAim
Norway879 Posts
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NMC
Canada28 Posts
I logged in for the first time in roughly a year just to highlight how wrong you are. You can continue to be naive or realize it's the exact same thing rofl, except instead of streams (which still do exist) it's mostly TV. Oh yeah and it's a way bigger industry. GL to boxer. Yeah you can't exactly just 'become' pro at poker, but lets be real anyone at that high level of decision making and patience can learn, it's just a matter of how quick. I'd love to see him play as wsop next year. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
No one stays for ever, least of all gamers. If you really wanted to cheer for the emperor you would tune in to watch his poker games in the future, and support his endeavours there. | ||
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
On December 07 2013 18:01 xAdra wrote: I don't get it. Did any of you still truly believe that he would be back to win another tournament? After being non-present as a player since late 2011? How is that even possible? No one stays for ever, least of all gamers. If you really wanted to cheer for the emperor you would tune in to watch his poker games in the future, and support his endeavours there. No. I'm just disappointed he didn't choose something better. | ||
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United States149 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
I understand your point that just playing poker "professionally" by hustling at casinos or whatnot to make money, is indeed a profession that contributes nothing to society. But Boxer is getting sponsored and doing tournaments. At the top, this stuff gets televised. It's an entertainment industry, like StarCraft, Football, or Ski Jumping. They get paid to be entertaining, and to be role-models/spokespeople. Honestly, Boxer's gig is probably more a spokesman kinda thing. He's a moderately big name with a really good vibe. That's probably most of what's behind his sponsorship. | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:40 Nerevar wrote: It's not just SC2. A number of SC1 pros have gone to poker as well, namely Elky and rekrul. Did u know rekrul is lurker spelt backwards? :D Im so excited! | ||
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RyLai
United States477 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:37 perfidiusrex wrote: boxer vs elky.battle of the old school That would be awesome :D Elky would win hopefully :D | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 07 2013 00:46 smOOthMayDie wrote: Time to become the richest starcraft 1 player alongside Elky. I think Ekly is at like 10 million$$ or something. 7 millions iirc. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 07 2013 03:09 shid0x wrote: The world is such a small place. Back then ElkY was the new guy stepping into boxer palace.And now look at how the tables switched.... I want a poker star showmatch featuring them both ! Also you never really stop loving SC,i saw elky play starcraft I & II in a french show just a few weeks ago, he was enjoying it soo much it was pretty amusing I saw it too :D Elky lost 0-2 to Moman in BW though. Both of them had not played BW for like 5 years. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 07 2013 18:04 11cc wrote: No. I'm just disappointed he didn't choose something better. at this point I just have to assume you probably never really played poker, least of all understand it | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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dutchfriese
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NiXJuke
United States2 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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sage_francis
France1823 Posts
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SkullZ9
Belgium2048 Posts
On December 07 2013 18:04 11cc wrote: No. I'm just disappointed he didn't choose something better. Dude, who are you to judge what Boxer does of his life ? Let him do what he wants and stop posting in this thread | ||
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Tricks
United States252 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:41 Netsky wrote: Isn't gambling illegal in Korea? since 2000 the good sc1 pros who went pokerpros was in korea (elky grrr etc) so ... where you hear that ? xD | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:45 Drake wrote: since 2000 the good sc1 pros who went pokerpros was in korea (elky grrr etc) so ... where you hear that ? xD gambling is illegal in korea for locals.. Elky, grrrr..., rekrul etc. can play because they aren't locals obviously also I believe Elky doesn't live in korea anymore | ||
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:30 SkullZ9 wrote: Dude, who are you to judge what Boxer does of his life ? Let him do what he wants and stop posting in this thread Have I tried to stop him from doing what he wants? No. I simply said that I was disappointed. Don't give a fuck about my opinion? Just ignore it. | ||
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dirtydurb82
United States178 Posts
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SantosPhillipCarlo
United States351 Posts
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lubu42
United States314 Posts
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
It just seems that so many players fall back to poker when their gaming careers don't work out. | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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RaiZ
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
aaaand wasted a lot of time playing SC2 on and off, started playing poker seriously again at the end of 2012 | ||
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mostevil
United Kingdom611 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:30 SkullZ9 wrote: Dude, who are you to judge what Boxer does He can be disappointed, who are you to judge what people can find disappointing or for that matter who can post in this thread. I have to admit I don't like poker at all, it's not exactly an elegant game. Maybe its just that after playing 4-5 games and winning every hand I possibly could but not coming anywhere close to winning the game I got disillusioned. Chance and I have a bad record, I need something where I can stack the odds more with my brain. Starcraft has its risks and dice rolls, but at least it doesn't start with a big dose of chance. Good luck to the fella though. Starcraft is clearly not making him happy now and its not going anywhere in Korea. | ||
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B-rye88
Canada168 Posts
On December 08 2013 12:03 theBALLS wrote: Can someone explain to me the close relation between SC2 and poker? It just seems that so many players fall back to poker when their gaming careers don't work out. Game-reading skills in SC2 translate well to hand-reading in poker. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On December 08 2013 14:49 B-rye88 wrote: Game-reading skills in SC2 translate well to hand-reading in poker. A lot of the StarCraft Brood War pros moved to Korea and started playing poker in their spare time, and then found they could make more money playing poker than playing StarCraft, so they switched (e.g. Nazgul, Elky etc.). I think since then poker and StarCraft have had a certain amount of crossover in players, usually from StarCraft to poker. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 08 2013 14:49 B-rye88 wrote: Game-reading skills in SC2 translate well to hand-reading in poker. meh it's really completely different... I really believe the closest thing is the whole grinding thing like I knew kiwi would win money from poker when he asked me about it years ago because I knew he was a really dedicated grinder... and well smarter than your average player I guess, lots of player that I think could become good poker players in the SC2 community | ||
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:03 NB wrote: i thought Korea has anti gambling rule? may be i mistaken it with china... Dunno. At least I can say it's forbidden in Japan. | ||
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Miss_Foxy
Singapore109 Posts
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
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LV_426
Poland432 Posts
On December 08 2013 07:03 dirtydurb82 wrote: From a God to a railbird. Of course, we are all happy BoxeR has a job and is in a community he wants to be in. railbird? railbird =/= grinder | ||
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
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epok
United States117 Posts
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Pittski
United States50 Posts
It just leaves a bad taste. Makes gaming feel like its being looked at as Child's play. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
If you are in top 0.00001% you make money, same as pro gaming in computer games. Difference is, you get really paid. poker still exists, pokerstars kinda swallowed it all though. There are still a few people on there that seem to be on all the time and never seem to make a profit at micro and low stakes - like for years. I feel for sc legends that get to the end of their career look at the sc2 scene and realise that the big bucks have gone or are going. Poker actually makes sense, i wish them all the best. Its a shame black friday and full tilt have destroyed the credability of the poker world. Its still going strong, its just tougher than ever. If poker is not gaming what the hell is? Its just a shame that tiny stakes online poker bears little or no relation to live poker - much like tiny skill online games bear little or no relation to high skill. | ||
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
On December 10 2013 02:25 epok wrote: posts like these made me wish for-money online poker still existed. why was it banned anyways? Cut into casino poker revenues. It's probably coming back within a few years though, once NV NJ DE et al. pave the way. | ||
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Cassalina
United States65 Posts
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ottosec
505 Posts
Starcraft and Poker are more similar than people think. The mindset and decision making process are almost the same on both games. | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
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ANGELIAS1234
United States46 Posts
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cz
United States3249 Posts
He's not going to be a 40hr a week grinder or something, he's basically just the new face of some poker site. That's it. It's like being the face on the Wheaties box - you don't have to eat Wheaties every meal, you just have to do a commercial once every few months. | ||
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cz
United States3249 Posts
On December 08 2013 13:31 ROOTFayth wrote: I never retired from poker, I was just really lazy and sat on my money during 2011 and 2012 (had 2 children during that time) aaaand wasted a lot of time playing SC2 on and off, started playing poker seriously again at the end of 2012 How are the games now compared to 2010-11? | ||
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Doominator10
United States515 Posts
We will miss you <3 | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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thezanursic
5478 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:39 radscorpion9 wrote: I find this connection between Brood War and poker fascinating. I can't imagine it'll be easy for him, but possibly it will be more likely to achieve something than continuing to make it 'work' with SC2 Fixed that for you. Don't actually remember any notable SC2 pros going poker where as Elky made millions and a myriad of other BW pros went on to be very successful. | ||
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1a2a3aPro
Canada227 Posts
The games continually get harder. I am a semi-professional player, but I make my money playing live. Online is just too tough now-a-days. There is no influx of new fish, the old ones go broke or get bored, and the regulars keep getting better and better. It's gone all the way down to 25NL, which is now much tougher. I think this trend will continue if Black Friday isn't lifted, maybe even then. | ||
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Karakadin
United States5 Posts
edit: and yea the people saying poker is too tough now are just lol, yes the game has progressed but there is still room for like a HUGE # of people to make 200k+, and the top subset of those to make 500k+ consistently in almost every game form. Yea back in the day you could only have 1/2 a brain and print money, but assuming your smart and work hard it's not that hard even now | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
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therabit
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On February 20 2014 20:31 therabit wrote: found this interview of boxer on pokernews about his new endeavour. Seems like he resigned from coaching because he wasn't feeling it. Read somewhere else that he actually came in 8th on his first live tournament in macau which is not bad at all that's awesome I'm glad he's doing well! In a lot of articles and interviews from around the time boxer annouced his "break" there were lots of talks of boxer being depressed. I heard he lost a lot of money on slayers and his coaching at skt didn't produce the amazing results people seemed to expect from him. I'm glad he's found some footing. go boxer!!! | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2259 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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