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dchaudh
58 Posts
Just to confirm, if we move cameras by double tapping a control group (and assuming the camera moves a distance of 15 or more), then this would in fact register as a new screen, correct? (I think this would be functionally equivalent to centering a unit on screen by clicking it's portrait, which, as per the docs you posted, does count as a new screen. I'm pretty sure this is the case but it never hurts to double check Thanks again! | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2370 Posts
On May 16 2015 16:26 dchaudh wrote: Wow, I can't believe I didn't see the in-app documentation - it is quite extensive and thorough so thanks for that. Just to confirm, if we move cameras by double tapping a control group (and assuming the camera moves a distance of 15 or more), then this would in fact register as a new screen, correct? (I think this would be functionally equivalent to centering a unit on screen by clicking it's portrait, which, as per the docs you posted, does count as a new screen. I'm pretty sure this is the case but it never hurts to double check Thanks again! Yes, that is correct. The only thing what matters is delta >= 15. What comes after are just examples of typically what is and what is not included. The help dialog again: ![[image loading]](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uAfecqdtRzU/VVbbgP3ZoOI/AAAAAAAA7QE/owiVh_ACbVA/w507-h556-no/spm_chart_help.png) | ||
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zerge
Germany162 Posts
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2370 Posts
On May 28 2015 18:03 zerge wrote: In Sc2gears there was an option to show the build orders used by a selectet player. Have i missed this feature in scelight or did it get removed? Also i can not see win percentages of certain matchups anymore? Builds orders are also available in Scelight. Open the replay in the Replay Analyzer and select the Build Orders tab where you will see the build orders of all players in a table where the time grows along the row number. You can also visualize the build orders on the charts. Select the Commands chart, and select the Builds and optionally all other types you want to include on the chart (e.g. Trains, Upgrades etc.). Win percentages along with a bunch of other statistics are available in the Multi-replay Analyzer. Select a Replay Folder on the Replay Folders page or select multiple replays in a Replay List page and press the Multi-Replay Analyze button. On the Global Stats tab you'll see the Player tab where you will see all the players found in the replays (you will be at the top). Double clicking on a player will open the detailed statistics of that player. So double click on your player, and under the tab of your Player name, you'll see a Race tab. This shows summarized stats aggregated by the races you played including Win %. Under the Race tab you'll also see other tabs named by the game formats. Select the 1v1 which details statistics based on all 1v1 games, including win %, for example ZvP, ZvT, PvZ etc., and also summarized stats like Zv* (you played with Zerg vs any race), and stats like *vP (you with any race vs Protoss). | ||
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zerge
Germany162 Posts
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dchaudh
58 Posts
1) is it possible to distinguish between screen changes triggered by camera hotkeys vs. clicking on the minimap? 2) my second question is basically a broader version of #1: do we have enough info from the replays to be able to decompose total APM into mouse APM and keyboard APM? If it's possible to do either (or both) of the above, any chance I could ask you to point me to where in the app I can find the relevant data? (Note: my questions have more to do with data sufficiency; in other words, I'm not asking whether or not these features are included in the app as I understand that my questions are quite specific in nature! I poked around in the commands-list and I thought there might be additional data from the replay that might allow a quick division into mouse vs. keyboard actions.) Thanks again for your help - I'm working on an SC2-related research project atm =P | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2370 Posts
On June 17 2015 07:57 dchaudh wrote: Hi there - 1) is it possible to distinguish between screen changes triggered by camera hotkeys vs. clicking on the minimap? 2) my second question is basically a broader version of #1: do we have enough info from the replays to be able to decompose total APM into mouse APM and keyboard APM? If it's possible to do either (or both) of the above, any chance I could ask you to point me to where in the app I can find the relevant data? (Note: my questions have more to do with data sufficiency; in other words, I'm not asking whether or not these features are included in the app as I understand that my questions are quite specific in nature! I poked around in the commands-list and I thought there might be additional data from the replay that might allow a quick division into mouse vs. keyboard actions.) Thanks again for your help - I'm working on an SC2-related research project atm =P Unfortunately the info whether an action was triggered by the mouse or keyboard is not stored in the replay files. So you can't distinguish between "keyboard" and "mouse" actions and therefore you can't calculate "keyboard" APM and "mouse" APM. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On June 17 2015 23:56 Dakota_Fanning wrote: Unfortunately the info whether an action was triggered by the mouse or keyboard is not stored in the replay files. So you can't distinguish between "keyboard" and "mouse" actions and therefore you can't calculate "keyboard" APM and "mouse" APM. wouldnt that be possible with something like a keylogger that runs in the background? so if scelight is open, you play a game and after that the program tells you what you did with the keyboard and what with the mouse. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2370 Posts
On June 18 2015 00:04 graNite wrote: wouldnt that be possible with something like a keylogger that runs in the background? so if scelight is open, you play a game and after that the program tells you what you did with the keyboard and what with the mouse. Yes, theoretically that would be sufficient and would be doable, but there would be still issues like synchronizing the logged events to the replay, handling other things such as game pause (whose duration is not recorded in the replay). If the goal is to calculate / obtain "keyboard" and "mouse" APM, the separate logger application could do this on its own without the consult of the replay. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
will you try to put it in your programm?  | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1126 Posts
On May 12 2015 17:26 Dakota_Fanning wrote: I don't have beta access so LotV beta support is not yet added. How is that even possible?? I'm going to the official forums to complain about this | ||
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bMn30
United States113 Posts
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2370 Posts
On June 25 2015 16:02 bMn30 wrote: I can't seem to get SCELight to work with LOTV. Am I doing something wrong or can we expect this to be updated for LOTV? Thx Just look 1 post above yours. I don't have LotV beta access, and until I do, I can't add proper support for LotV. | ||
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rigginssc2
18 Posts
Why two options? If I move the replays to a different folder then I fail to see how I can view these replays from within SC2. It isn't like they give you a browser in there. So, it seems I would be left with a really nicely organized set of replays, that are only good for analyzing with scelight. Right? But, this is the default setup? Meaning, the tool comes setup to create a backup with a renamed file and to not rename the files the SC2 makes in the Multiplayer folder. This seems backwards. It also seems odd that you can specify the rename template in three different places. Why? I forget off hand where the third place is, and maybe that is because it was not clear what use it served, but the other two let yu specify the template for the "in place" rename and the "backup" rename. Another question, there is an option for a vocal "backup saved" if you use the backup option. There is no such option if you use the rename in place option. Why? This seems overly complicated for no real benefit. Perhaps you are just mirroring the set of features that were in sc2gears? Final question, do I need to manually star scelight every time i reboot my machine? Or is there an option somewhere to have it autostart it self (like the sc2replaystats autouploader used to do before I replaced it with this new tool). Thanks! | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2370 Posts
On June 30 2015 08:43 rigginssc2 wrote: I am puzzled b the two options for saving replays. One is to rename the replays but keep them in the same folder. Presumably this would keep them in the "Multiplayer" replay folder. The other is to create a "backup" of the replay in a different folder. Why two options? If I move the replays to a different folder then I fail to see how I can view these replays from within SC2. It isn't like they give you a browser in there. So, it seems I would be left with a really nicely organized set of replays, that are only good for analyzing with scelight. Right? But, this is the default setup? Meaning, the tool comes setup to create a backup with a renamed file and to not rename the files the SC2 makes in the Multiplayer folder. This seems backwards. It also seems odd that you can specify the rename template in three different places. Why? I forget off hand where the third place is, and maybe that is because it was not clear what use it served, but the other two let yu specify the template for the "in place" rename and the "backup" rename. Another question, there is an option for a vocal "backup saved" if you use the backup option. There is no such option if you use the rename in place option. Why? This seems overly complicated for no real benefit. Perhaps you are just mirroring the set of features that were in sc2gears? Final question, do I need to manually star scelight every time i reboot my machine? Or is there an option somewhere to have it autostart it self (like the sc2replaystats autouploader used to do before I replaced it with this new tool). Thanks! Some people don't want to make a backup of their replays, they just want to keep them in the default folder where SC2 saves them. Some people prefer to have a backup of their replays in a separate folder (which may even be on a separate drive) so that if Windows is reinstalled or other things, their replays are not lost forever. Also note that by default SC2 only keeps of your last 25 or so replays, and when a new is saved, the oldest is deleted automatically. The Rename detected new replays in their original folder does what it says. Reason: you can see these replays from in-game, so the name you specify here is what you will see inside the game. When replay backup is enabled, you may choose to use a different name in the backup folder. This will not be visible from the game, so a different name may be desirable. It can be longer, the backup folder may contain a lot more replays, so more information may be feasible in the name, also starting it with the date/time is feasible so it will be sorted automatically in chronological order in file browsers. These are the 2 places to specify name templates. There is also a 3rd as you mentioned which is under Replay Folders / Replay List. But that is merely so that Scelight remembers the last renaming template (when you manually rename replays) and if you want to rename replays again, the name template you used last (or what is set here) is offered as a starting point. Renaming a replay in its original folder cannot really fail. But backing up a replay might fail for several reasons: no permissions to create backup folder or write the backup file, disk full, disk of back-up folder unavailable etc. So it is reasonable to have an alert for backing up replays, and not one for renaming them. Once you start it, you can minimize Scelight to a tray icon and it will keep running in the background. When you restart Windows, it will be obviously closed. You can put a link into your Startup folder, which will indeed start the Scelight launcher. You will need to manually click on the START button unless you registered in which case you can set it to automatically proceed after the update and integrity checks. | ||
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LiquidRadiation
Afghanistan6 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
in multi-replay analysis, it'd be cool to scatter plot the games on a few different variables, such as apm, spm, SQ, game length, date, etc. Would also be nice if you can set some variables to point size and colour, so that you can, for example, plot apm against spm, point size by game length and colour by date. That functionality would open so many possibilities for understanding your game I think. Does my apm actually improve my SQ? Only for long games? Do my apm and spm correlate? Do they correlate more/less now than 2 years ago? Also calculating a quick little pearson correlation of the scatter could be nice. Maybe support filters as well, plotting only games from last year, only ZvP, etc. Anyway, I think some basic functionality like that could open up so much potential analysis for the users. Love the tool, thanks! | ||
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Imalayan
4 Posts
I added a new replayfolder (since the original can not be relocated :/) and set it to monitored. But when it detects a new replay in the alternate folder, it will back it up, but doesn't use the template for renaming (which it does use for new replays in the original folder). Instead it renames it to "YY-MM-DD HH_MM_SS.SC2Replay" and uses the Date/Time from the moment the replay is backed up (which is even less useful than the time the replay was created^^). Is there anyway to fix that? | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2370 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:18 Imalayan wrote: Hi there, I added a new replayfolder (since the original can not be relocated :/) and set it to monitored. But when it detects a new replay in the alternate folder, it will back it up, but doesn't use the template for renaming (which it does use for new replays in the original folder). Instead it renames it to "YY-MM-DD HH_MM_SS.SC2Replay" and uses the Date/Time from the moment the replay is backed up (which is even less useful than the time the replay was created^^). Is there anyway to fix that? Wich monitored Replay folder a new replay comes from should not matter. The name format you describe is only used as a fall-back template and only applied if a new replay cannot be parsed (and therefore the values of the different symbols used in the name template cannot be acquired). Are you sure you're not talking about LotV replays? As LotV replays are not yet supported. Please check if otherwise you can open those replays in the Replay analyzer. | ||
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Imalayan
4 Posts
Are you sure you're not talking about LotV replays? The folder contains both LOTV an HOTS (and probably also WoL) replays, but none of both get renamed correctly. I'd probably be able to filter all of the LOTV replays out (if that fixes it), but thats something I'd like to avoid. | ||
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