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tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
December 01 2013 16:05 GMT
#241
threaten to.... it is already over. Koreans are not at all fun to watch for me. They killed this game for me. ded
t to the redogz, tredogz
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
December 01 2013 16:15 GMT
#242
I think the reason that it "snuck up on us" is that no one expected anything different...
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Skinnyboy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
December 01 2013 16:36 GMT
#243
On December 01 2013 05:29 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 00:39 JustPassingBy wrote:
Well, maybe Scarlett can make the impossible possible, but with only her going into the ro8 the chances are looking slim.

The players from Korea at ASUS ROG (San, MMA, Innovation, Jaedong, Life) look beatable though. Guess we'll have our best shot at the final event of the year.

In which way Innovation, Jaedong and Life are "beatable"?


Well to be technical Jaekong's weakness is finals
Whatever bro, tell it to the whales
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 01 2013 17:05 GMT
#244
On December 02 2013 01:36 Skinnyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 05:29 digmouse wrote:
On December 01 2013 00:39 JustPassingBy wrote:
Well, maybe Scarlett can make the impossible possible, but with only her going into the ro8 the chances are looking slim.

The players from Korea at ASUS ROG (San, MMA, Innovation, Jaedong, Life) look beatable though. Guess we'll have our best shot at the final event of the year.

In which way Innovation, Jaedong and Life are "beatable"?


Well to be technical Jaekong's weakness is finals


Finals vs koreans
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#245
On December 02 2013 02:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 01:36 Skinnyboy wrote:
On December 01 2013 05:29 digmouse wrote:
On December 01 2013 00:39 JustPassingBy wrote:
Well, maybe Scarlett can make the impossible possible, but with only her going into the ro8 the chances are looking slim.

The players from Korea at ASUS ROG (San, MMA, Innovation, Jaedong, Life) look beatable though. Guess we'll have our best shot at the final event of the year.

In which way Innovation, Jaedong and Life are "beatable"?


Well to be technical Jaekong's weakness is finals


Finals vs koreans

Maybe even all finals. He never got to finals with a non-korean in it ;D.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Homework
Profile Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
December 01 2013 19:21 GMT
#246
Only one tournament remains. There is, my friends, only one minute to midnight.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1923 Posts
December 01 2013 19:29 GMT
#247
How many western teenagers have quit school to become progamers?

I think that is pretty much the whole issue...
Buff the siegetank
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12268 Posts
December 01 2013 19:33 GMT
#248
I wish another article was written, something like "Nothing important happens at midnight"

The concern created around the idea that foreigners haven't won a premier tournament with good korean participation in 2013 sounds so fake. I don't see how it's a big deal, I don't see how it's different from past years, I don't see how a foreigner suddenly winning one of the last 4 tourneys of the year would have changed a thing about it.
No will to live, no wish to die
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
December 01 2013 19:34 GMT
#249
On December 02 2013 04:29 Slydie wrote:
How many western teenagers have quit school to become progamers?

I think that is pretty much the whole issue...

Hey man, you don't know our pain. Being a western teenager is hard work esp trying to be a pro with tiny bits of dedication for the game.

(real) I blame the whole "we came to this country to give you a better life and you can't waste it on a violence simulator" mentality >_>
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1923 Posts
December 02 2013 13:29 GMT
#250
I remember very well being a western teenager myself, ty, and I have never had such a busy schedule ever since. The foreign progamers generally go fulltime after highschool, and postphone/drop out of higher grade studies. At that time it is too late to catch up. As for football, music, ballet etc. the schools have systems makes early development possible, but having that for gaming will probably never happen.

Magnus Carlsens family did take a full year off to travel the world learning and playing chess in his earoy teens. That is dedication!
Buff the siegetank
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 02 2013 13:45 GMT
#251
On December 02 2013 04:33 Nebuchad wrote:
I wish another article was written, something like "Nothing important happens at midnight"

The concern created around the idea that foreigners haven't won a premier tournament with good korean participation in 2013 sounds so fake. I don't see how it's a big deal, I don't see how it's different from past years, I don't see how a foreigner suddenly winning one of the last 4 tourneys of the year would have changed a thing about it.

I think its more to see the evolution of foreigners vs koreans. Remember that a couple years ago everyone was on equal footing and year by year we see more korean domination.
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
December 02 2013 13:52 GMT
#252
On November 28 2013 04:48 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 04:39 sM.Zik wrote:
Finally the skill level of Starcraft 2 is where it should be


True, true. I think the best chance for a foreigner to win an event now is around lotv release. I feel like a year or two after lotv seeing a foreigner take a map off of a korean in an offline competition will be huge.


And I thought people learned something from the floor-wiping-with-foreigners that followed HotS release...

No. They won't have any chance with LotV unless the game is going to be dumbed down multitasking-wise.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
December 02 2013 13:57 GMT
#253
On December 01 2013 13:09 stuchiu wrote:
Scarlett falls to Hydra 3-1.

One minute to midnight. Asus Northcon is Wall Sina.


sick reference +1 to you sir
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 14:03:00
December 02 2013 14:00 GMT
#254
On December 02 2013 01:05 tredogz wrote:
threaten to.... it is already over. Koreans are not at all fun to watch for me. They killed this game for me. ded


I bet you wouldn't even recognize whether it's Korean playing or not from just watching a pro game with no casters. So stop pretending. Maybe you were never interested in the actual game to begin with.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
December 02 2013 14:05 GMT
#255
Guys,it's possible to have Scarlett vs Elfi as the ASUS ROG finals. There is still hope.
All I do is Stim.
Firestorm
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada341 Posts
December 02 2013 14:35 GMT
#256
On December 02 2013 22:45 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 04:33 Nebuchad wrote:
I wish another article was written, something like "Nothing important happens at midnight"

The concern created around the idea that foreigners haven't won a premier tournament with good korean participation in 2013 sounds so fake. I don't see how it's a big deal, I don't see how it's different from past years, I don't see how a foreigner suddenly winning one of the last 4 tourneys of the year would have changed a thing about it.

I think its more to see the evolution of foreigners vs koreans. Remember that a couple years ago everyone was on equal footing and year by year we see more korean domination.


To be fair, the game in late 2010/early 2011 was still fairly new and the Koreans figured everything out a lot quicker.
"Revenge is sweet... Revenge is a dish best served cold... Revenge is... Ice Cream!"
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
December 02 2013 15:16 GMT
#257
We shold claim all the Koreans on foreign teams as foreigners.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 15:52:19
December 02 2013 15:43 GMT
#258
On December 02 2013 23:00 Sejanus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 01:05 tredogz wrote:
threaten to.... it is already over. Koreans are not at all fun to watch for me. They killed this game for me. ded


I bet you wouldn't even recognize whether it's Korean playing or not from just watching a pro game with no casters. So stop pretending. Maybe you were never interested in the actual game to begin with.

Exactly this is the reason. Except the top10 players worldwide.
It is actually Blizzard's mistake that 99% of top level games are looking pretty boring. It looks rather that making correct units is stronger than the (true) skills of players. Especially in TvP who unit composition is more important than everything else.
Many spells are too strong and have bad design, FF, EMP and fungal are there to prevent micro from opponent. It should be exactly the opposite.
It's somewhat weird that 200 vs 200 shows the most boring fights and moments of the game. 150 vs 150 or 100 vs 100 are a lot better and more interesting.

edit: From a research study in USA: Someone invited 24 people to watch a movie. Before the movie, 12 people were told that the movie will be showed in HD Quality. After the movie: the same 12 said that the movie was in HD, other 12 said "no" or "I don't know". Reality: The movie was NOT in HD.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 02 2013 15:51 GMT
#259
On December 03 2013 00:43 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 23:00 Sejanus wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:05 tredogz wrote:
threaten to.... it is already over. Koreans are not at all fun to watch for me. They killed this game for me. ded


I bet you wouldn't even recognize whether it's Korean playing or not from just watching a pro game with no casters. So stop pretending. Maybe you were never interested in the actual game to begin with.

Exactly this is the reason. Except the top10 players worldwide.
It is actually Blizzard's mistake that 99% of top level games are looking pretty boring. It looks rather that making correct units is stronger than the (true) skills of players. Especially in TvP who unit composition is more important than everything else.
Many spells are too strong and have bad design, FF, EMP and fungal are there to prevent micro from opponent. It should be exactly the opposite.
It's somewhat weird that 200 vs 200 shows the most boring fights and moments of the games. 150 vs 150 or 100 vs 100 are a lot better.

Don't spells increase micro? I mean storm dodging, templar control etc.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
December 02 2013 15:55 GMT
#260
On December 03 2013 00:51 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 00:43 Dingodile wrote:
On December 02 2013 23:00 Sejanus wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:05 tredogz wrote:
threaten to.... it is already over. Koreans are not at all fun to watch for me. They killed this game for me. ded


I bet you wouldn't even recognize whether it's Korean playing or not from just watching a pro game with no casters. So stop pretending. Maybe you were never interested in the actual game to begin with.

Exactly this is the reason. Except the top10 players worldwide.
It is actually Blizzard's mistake that 99% of top level games are looking pretty boring. It looks rather that making correct units is stronger than the (true) skills of players. Especially in TvP who unit composition is more important than everything else.
Many spells are too strong and have bad design, FF, EMP and fungal are there to prevent micro from opponent. It should be exactly the opposite.
It's somewhat weird that 200 vs 200 shows the most boring fights and moments of the games. 150 vs 150 or 100 vs 100 are a lot better.

Don't spells increase micro? I mean storm dodging, templar control etc.

I said "many spells", not "every spell". I hate to watch pre-split. It is so boring to watch and too strong for doing nothing. I want to watch micro DURING a fight. Pre-split happens a few seconds before the fight.
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