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jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
November 27 2013 07:45 GMT
#61
Hope he will return soon, awesome person!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 27 2013 07:55 GMT
#62
Very nice interview, good luck to Golden in the future!
OldLadyStarCraft
Profile Joined November 2013
United States66 Posts
November 27 2013 08:09 GMT
#63
What a great interview. Such maturity at a young age. So nice to hear that he enjoyed seeing the world while learning so much about himself and life. I'm impressed. This is such a smart way to look at things - he will succeed in his new endeavors. Thanks Golden.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
November 27 2013 08:24 GMT
#64
gl sir
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Asarha
Profile Joined January 2012
France71 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 08:42:22
November 27 2013 08:41 GMT
#65
On November 27 2013 06:00 mishimaBeef wrote:
"It's better to try and regret than not try at all."

I don't understand. Isn't the saying usually "it's better to try than not try at all and regret"?

Yes, but this is two different idea.
When you don't try something, you can regret later. If you try it, you can also regret you didn't win more, or wasn't a better player. This is the kind of regret you have to face when you're trying Starcraft 2, 'cause there's a ton of other people, so it could look like a waste of time. But Golden is actually saying it's better trying, even if you fail or if you regret what you were able to achieve, than not trying at all.

By the way, gg gl, Golden. I liked his retirement's interview.
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dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
November 27 2013 09:04 GMT
#66
i recently watched golden stream, his mouse control was one of the most accurate i've seen of all koreans, it was really honey on the eyes to watch.

i'm sad to see you go, Golden, all the best in future endeavours!
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Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
November 27 2013 09:40 GMT
#67
so he was just ok with winning only around 3k in a small tournament. interesting.
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Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
November 27 2013 09:42 GMT
#68
Unfortunately, I only really know Golden from his Re Bull Training Grounds performance but he seems like a really cool guy from his interview.
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leopardb
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany92 Posts
November 27 2013 09:42 GMT
#69
What was tough about being a progamer?

I can't think of a particular period that was difficult for me, but in general the fact that you have to win against another human being, not yourself, made things difficult.


I just became a fan notice he did not say "to play against", but "to win against", i can completely relate to that...
don't worry, be happy
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 27 2013 10:17 GMT
#70
Goodbye friend.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
November 27 2013 10:48 GMT
#71
Nice guy, pretty mature for his age.

Its sad that he's retiring and isn't planning on coming back but I'm happy for him that at least he achieved the tournament win that was obviously so important.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
November 27 2013 12:10 GMT
#72
Awesome guy, hope he kicks some serious butt in whatever he wants to do now
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
November 27 2013 12:46 GMT
#73
Very nice interview. I'm happy he enjoyed his time as a progamer. Good luck in the future.
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 27 2013 14:01 GMT
#74
Gl Gl
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
NuKE[vZ]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 14:21:54
November 27 2013 14:21 GMT
#75
On November 27 2013 16:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 14:18 Esoterikk wrote:
That's true, but I think a lot of the fans went to games like LoL and Dota2 because they were more fun. If the game becomes more fun, I think the fans will naturally return.


Kind of depressing, I know everyone likes to ignore it but even the pros think the game is boring. Can't imagine having to play something you don't find that fun for 10 hours a day. Can't say I blame him for retiring.

Hoping LotV goes well.

The reason it's boring is because they play it 10 hours a day. Doing anything 10 hours almost straight is straining in itself



That's a valid point.. But I get maybe 3 games a week max of sc2.. And not because my time is limited, but simply bexause the game is just not fun or good to be honest. I'm sure many can agree.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
November 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#76
Goodbye Goodluck Have fun next!
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
November 27 2013 16:48 GMT
#77
I'm using a mousepad signed by Golden right now that I got from the GSTL all stars match.

Goodbye Golden, you will be missed.

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 27 2013 17:09 GMT
#78
On November 27 2013 23:21 NuKE[vZ] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 16:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On November 27 2013 14:18 Esoterikk wrote:
That's true, but I think a lot of the fans went to games like LoL and Dota2 because they were more fun. If the game becomes more fun, I think the fans will naturally return.


Kind of depressing, I know everyone likes to ignore it but even the pros think the game is boring. Can't imagine having to play something you don't find that fun for 10 hours a day. Can't say I blame him for retiring.

Hoping LotV goes well.

The reason it's boring is because they play it 10 hours a day. Doing anything 10 hours almost straight is straining in itself



That's a valid point.. But I get maybe 3 games a week max of sc2.. And not because my time is limited, but simply bexause the game is just not fun or good to be honest. I'm sure many can agree.

But your still playing it 3 times a week. That is more than almost any 3 year old game.

Golden did well, but he is ready to move on. He is young and wants to do new things. Best of luck to him.
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chairmobile
Profile Joined July 2013
United States111 Posts
November 27 2013 18:27 GMT
#79
Whether it's Korean fans or international fans, thanks to everyone who cheered me on. If I come back somehow, I hope we can meet in a good way. But, I think it will be unlikely you will see me again in esports.

If I do, see you then!

So many onions...
The game is balanced. We just suck.
MonkeyBot
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
November 27 2013 20:08 GMT
#80
Great interview and GL to Golden.

Retirements like these don't make me feel bleak about the scene. People have to move on, especially with military service looming. Plus it's cool to hear Golden talk about the experiences from the game that he will take with him in life
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