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On November 11 2013 08:19 Crackpot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 07:54 StarStruck wrote:On November 11 2013 07:31 Crackpot wrote:On November 11 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:On November 11 2013 04:07 Crackpot wrote:
RIP SC2?
Is it just me or anyone else thinks that StarCraft 2 looses credibility? I mean, this year we had like 4 different "best players",.. how could that be ? To be honest, I dont think SOS is THE best player right now, I think everyone else of the participants (with few exceptions) could have won the global finals. From now on SOS will fall just like every other "major tournament"-winner,.. because like all the other champions (besides Innovation in Season 1) noone truely was THE BEST.
what does that mean? -->If more and more different players win major tournaments,winning a tournament seems to become more and more worthless, because everyone can win it, you don't have to be the very best.
Is it Blizzards "we patch everything" - mentality ?
Or just "normal" because HotS isn't even a year old?
I have no idea, but its not good for the sport.
What's the best team in soccer? Funnily enough, you will find that such questions rarely have simple answers. It might have been in Brood War, but there are many sports where there is no undisputed #1 that get along just fine. And this whole "you don't have to be the best to win" is annoying, stupid and offensive all at once. Of course you have to be the best. You have to play better and smarter than everyone else to win. Or you lose. That's how the game works. If you didn't know sOs well enough before the tournament, I'm sorry, but your argument is and has always been bullshit. Funnily the best soccer Team is Barcelona and munich. Seems like i hit some sos fanboy. to make things clear.. SOS won cause he played better than jd, i dont deny that. And yes i saw SOS playing before the tournament. In my eyes he never was a pro deserving a championship, but there are many like him, maybe his mindgames(and they where pretty good) worked Vs jd now. but in pure mechanics, micro and strategies i see much better players than him.Dont get me wrong, I dont blame SOS for winning something, I blame the game or maybeblizzard or the tournemants or maybe every other progamer for letting stuff like that happen. you see , i dont know what to blame because i have no idea what is cousing this inconsistency. Peace Blaming Blizzard or every other pro gamer letting stuff like that happen? Rofl. Somehow I doubt you ever watched PL, but I don't blame you. Many people apparently didn't. You have a lot of options when it comes to what you can watch and when to watch. The PL timeslot isn't really friendly for many people. Anywho, there are quite a few of Protosses that can give you a run for your money (and that's one of the reasons they do so well because these guys have their own variations which makes it hard to play against unless you know what's coming) and guess what? sHy showed us plenty of new options and this goes back to PL. It's funny because I remember so many people would rag on whatever Protoss was doing well atm. People would shit on players like MC (including your 'idols'), PartinG and so on. The fact sOs can execute such strategies and sometimes they don't work out so well in the beginning and still hold his own. I think that says something. When the guy should probably be behind. He isn't behind. That my friend is scary. Not only that he's moving onto another front and using unit compositions that are so risky. If you don't nail it. You should be fucked. Also those storms man. MC storm meet sOs storm. I like proleague, especially the allkill format because it reveals true strength and weaknesses of all players.Talking about sOs There he could assasinate other players pretty well, but when it comes to bo5 against innovation for example, he playes all weird without any self -confidence and poor mechanics/executions.
So in favor of your argument you just decide to forget that sOs played 2 group stages, and 2 players in a Bo5 (Alicia 3-0 and SoulKey 3-2) without any selfconfidence and poor mechanics/executions, before losing to Innovation against 4-0 ?
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On November 11 2013 06:41 LockeTazeline wrote:Including all streams, probably peaked around 300k concurrent viewers. Definitely lived up to the hype of #1 tournament of 2013 imo. Haha, legendary.
Can someone do a version with his fist smacking someone's face?
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On November 10 2013 22:37 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 20:04 shadymmj wrote:
I foresaw this problem a long time ago. jaedong was the "people's champion", but honestly the guy has done very very well and second place is still a great achievement. of course, that makes Shy the supreme master of sc2, except nobody thinks so because of the way he won. Still, there's probably no excuse to NOT expect cheese from him if you have studied him at all.
The trouble is that Shy is not a very popular player with a consistent string of results. He's probably about average in terms of fanbase. He's brilliant but irregular, and in this tournament he was the former. Of course I also think he's actually a very innovative player and deserving of the title, but that isn't really the point.
The point is that this "grand final" answered no questions. No one thinks Shy isn't unbeatable, least of all me. He doesn't have the "aura" of invincibility or the statistics that elevate him to a S-class player. In fact many people still think Dear is better than him. So what's the point of winning (other than cash goodies) if people won't even acknowledge you as the best? You will never become a legend like that.
Either people have to acknowledge him as THE BEST player of recent times (i hesitate to use the bonjwa term, but really that is what people are looking for), or we will have to find a new way of running this thing. wow the amount of ignorance in this post is mindblowing sHy without consistent string of results? Instrumental player in year-long SPL's campaign, various high finishes in KR, 2nd in the first WCS Jaedong? free ride to the finals for playing NA and DH. Yeah North America and Dreamhack, and he didnt even win shit. Funny how people doubt Dear or sOs who have been posting strong results all year long in the hardest competitions instead of someone who happened to have an insane weekend. I would consider this a fairy tale if Jaedong wins actually I have flashback to the Super Tournament when Polt rolfstomped and laughed on fanboy tears with $100K. The point of winning is getting top money and having your name with a gold medal icon in liquidpedia. Goodluck become a legendary kong.
agreed 
please watch SPL and then make comments you fanboys
sOs deserves that champion
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On November 11 2013 08:10 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 07:24 StarStruck wrote:On November 11 2013 06:30 TheRabidDeer wrote:On November 11 2013 06:24 StarStruck wrote:On November 11 2013 06:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On November 11 2013 04:30 Faruko wrote:
Finally a player plays Protoss with its "full" potential and the community bashes him... SC2 its losing ground not because sOs beat JD with clever gameplay mechanics and tactics, and outsmarting him to the point of making JD looking like a fool falling each and every time in sOs plan, but because the community wants every match to be "do not chesee --> turtle for 30 minutes with harras to get a little edge --> deathball --> fight"
This is getting silly, nobody said ANYTHING when JD baneling busted Maru 2 (or was 3?) games in a row, because it was "The Dong", but suddenly comes a player, that TL defines as a "faceless korean" which actually shows how much does some people know about SC2 (watch Proleague, please...), and put JD to shame with his mind games and unorthodox play style and now everything is "SC2 is dead, RIP SC2, JD SOOO MUCH BETTER"
If i were playing for a 100k i would do everything in my power to win, and so will everyone People dislike the cannon rush cheese because it is so easy to do and has such a huge impact, and it isnt really scoutable. You just have to blindly counter it, which costs you minerals and him nothing. If there weren't cheese spots behind minerals nobody would care. People also feel a bit cheated since in 3 (4?) of the games sOs did some kind of hidden cheese. Yes, it is him playing to win... but whenever something is lopsided against our favorite we dislike it. People dont like one round boxing matches, it is no different here. JD shouldve played a lot better, I dont know what he was thinking. Ultralisks on akilon is dumb. Base trading with ultralisks on akilon is horrendous. Why did he not follow the probe with a drone to stop cannon rush on game 2? It just really felt like he couldve done a lot better. Against top caliber players? Any type of cannon rush isn't easy to pull off at all. Why because they're pretty good at stopping it/scouting it. sOs got snuffed many times yet he still made shit work. "Why did he not follow the probe with a drone to stop cannon rush on game 2?" A cannon rush is easy because either: 1) You just don't do it because his drone is on you 2) You do it because his drone isn't on you If you do it and he pulls 10 drones to stop it, you cancel the 2nd pylon + cannon and are still ahead. Either scenario you gain an advantage, and both are easy. This is one reason why early forge is used against Z in the first place. Saying a cannon rush is hard is ridiculous, it just depends on how your opponent acts towards your scouting probe. It's hard to pull off against players of this caliber. Just watch pro league and see how many times they get snuffed. You always have to be on top of the army man. Same rule applies for the probe. What do you consider to be a snuff? What happened that made it unsuccessful? Did the probe get followed and he tried anyway? How can you fail a cannon rush if the 2 pylon wall is finished? Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 07:58 Drake wrote:On November 11 2013 06:30 TheRabidDeer wrote:On November 11 2013 06:24 StarStruck wrote:On November 11 2013 06:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On November 11 2013 04:30 Faruko wrote:
Finally a player plays Protoss with its "full" potential and the community bashes him... SC2 its losing ground not because sOs beat JD with clever gameplay mechanics and tactics, and outsmarting him to the point of making JD looking like a fool falling each and every time in sOs plan, but because the community wants every match to be "do not chesee --> turtle for 30 minutes with harras to get a little edge --> deathball --> fight"
This is getting silly, nobody said ANYTHING when JD baneling busted Maru 2 (or was 3?) games in a row, because it was "The Dong", but suddenly comes a player, that TL defines as a "faceless korean" which actually shows how much does some people know about SC2 (watch Proleague, please...), and put JD to shame with his mind games and unorthodox play style and now everything is "SC2 is dead, RIP SC2, JD SOOO MUCH BETTER"
If i were playing for a 100k i would do everything in my power to win, and so will everyone People dislike the cannon rush cheese because it is so easy to do and has such a huge impact, and it isnt really scoutable. You just have to blindly counter it, which costs you minerals and him nothing. If there weren't cheese spots behind minerals nobody would care. People also feel a bit cheated since in 3 (4?) of the games sOs did some kind of hidden cheese. Yes, it is him playing to win... but whenever something is lopsided against our favorite we dislike it. People dont like one round boxing matches, it is no different here. JD shouldve played a lot better, I dont know what he was thinking. Ultralisks on akilon is dumb. Base trading with ultralisks on akilon is horrendous. Why did he not follow the probe with a drone to stop cannon rush on game 2? It just really felt like he couldve done a lot better. Against top caliber players? Any type of cannon rush isn't easy to pull off at all. Why because they're pretty good at stopping it/scouting it. sOs got snuffed many times yet he still made shit work. "Why did he not follow the probe with a drone to stop cannon rush on game 2?" A cannon rush is easy because either: 1) You just don't do it because his drone is on you 2) You do it because his drone isn't on you If you do it and he pulls 10 drones to stop it, you cancel the 2nd pylon + cannon and are still ahead. Either scenario you gain an advantage, and both are easy. This is one reason why early forge is used against Z in the first place. Saying a cannon rush is hard is ridiculous, it just depends on how your opponent acts towards your scouting probe. you even watch pro plays ? 90% of the canon rush i see gets destroyed and then protoss is so far behind that he loses, even sos canon rush nr1 was a bad canonrush who went overall better for jd ... 90%? I seem to remember it working more times than that. I didn't see most of game 1 (I was watching from work), but in what way did it fail? He got the cancel on the natural, didnt he?
Snuff as in the play got shutdown. You either cancel/abandon it right away or you will be at a disadvantage. Anyway, we're not just talking about the cannon rushes on multiple fronts. We're talking about the proxy oracles and every other curve ball sHy throws. "You see my two stargates, fine. I'm going to abandon it before I put anymore investment in it." Good thing Jaedong didn't overreact and waited patiently to see where he should invest that larva. We're starting to see him use his larva more efficiently. Going back to the oracles. They weren't too effective in terms of their harass and heck sHy lost them, but he did get good scouting information and forced the Terran to play defensive. Once again, high end players don't fall victim to such plays so easily and it's very hard to make such strats effective. Last season in PL we saw many players try to do such things and what do you know. The other guys caught on very quickly. They're very good at scouting such stuff man.
On November 11 2013 08:19 Crackpot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 07:54 StarStruck wrote:On November 11 2013 07:31 Crackpot wrote:On November 11 2013 04:16 Zealously wrote:On November 11 2013 04:07 Crackpot wrote:
RIP SC2?
Is it just me or anyone else thinks that StarCraft 2 looses credibility? I mean, this year we had like 4 different "best players",.. how could that be ? To be honest, I dont think SOS is THE best player right now, I think everyone else of the participants (with few exceptions) could have won the global finals. From now on SOS will fall just like every other "major tournament"-winner,.. because like all the other champions (besides Innovation in Season 1) noone truely was THE BEST.
what does that mean? -->If more and more different players win major tournaments,winning a tournament seems to become more and more worthless, because everyone can win it, you don't have to be the very best.
Is it Blizzards "we patch everything" - mentality ?
Or just "normal" because HotS isn't even a year old?
I have no idea, but its not good for the sport.
What's the best team in soccer? Funnily enough, you will find that such questions rarely have simple answers. It might have been in Brood War, but there are many sports where there is no undisputed #1 that get along just fine. And this whole "you don't have to be the best to win" is annoying, stupid and offensive all at once. Of course you have to be the best. You have to play better and smarter than everyone else to win. Or you lose. That's how the game works. If you didn't know sOs well enough before the tournament, I'm sorry, but your argument is and has always been bullshit. Funnily the best soccer Team is Barcelona and munich. Seems like i hit some sos fanboy. to make things clear.. SOS won cause he played better than jd, i dont deny that. And yes i saw SOS playing before the tournament. In my eyes he never was a pro deserving a championship, but there are many like him, maybe his mindgames(and they where pretty good) worked Vs jd now. but in pure mechanics, micro and strategies i see much better players than him.Dont get me wrong, I dont blame SOS for winning something, I blame the game or maybeblizzard or the tournemants or maybe every other progamer for letting stuff like that happen. you see , i dont know what to blame because i have no idea what is cousing this inconsistency. Peace Blaming Blizzard or every other pro gamer letting stuff like that happen? Rofl. Somehow I doubt you ever watched PL, but I don't blame you. Many people apparently didn't. You have a lot of options when it comes to what you can watch and when to watch. The PL timeslot isn't really friendly for many people. Anywho, there are quite a few of Protosses that can give you a run for your money (and that's one of the reasons they do so well because these guys have their own variations which makes it hard to play against unless you know what's coming) and guess what? sHy showed us plenty of new options and this goes back to PL. It's funny because I remember so many people would rag on whatever Protoss was doing well atm. People would shit on players like MC (including your 'idols'), PartinG and so on. The fact sOs can execute such strategies and sometimes they don't work out so well in the beginning and still hold his own. I think that says something. When the guy should probably be behind. He isn't behind. That my friend is scary. Not only that he's moving onto another front and using unit compositions that are so risky. If you don't nail it. You should be fucked. Also those storms man. MC storm meet sOs storm. I like proleague, especially the allkill format because it reveals true strength and weaknesses of all players.Talking about sOs There he could assasinate other players pretty well, but when it comes to bo5 against innovation for example, he playes all weird without any self -confidence and poor mechanics/executions.
There's the problem. Sounds like you are putting too much weight on that series. That's all it was. One series; one moment in time. If we look back at what he did in PL and the fact he was tied with JangBi with the best record in high pressure situations (they were tied at 5-1 when all the money was on the line) and his regular season record. Well shit. They were pretty effective. If there is a player I'm missing right now it's JangBi because I would have liked to see what he really could do with this game. He would definitely be up there with a lot of the other Protoss players atm. It's funny because there was a period in BW PL where you would expect JangBi to proxy and he did.
One thing I don't see changing anytime soon is Protoss players getting a lot of flack for the way they play. Like I said earlier, if you go back to the other points in time where a Protoss was doing well you'd always see other folks ragging on their playstyle. Now that we have a bunch of them and they all have their different tics? It's making it very hard for the other players. This isn't Brood Lord/Infestor all over again. It's very different unit compositions and timings that make it hard to adjust to.
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To all the haters, note that sOs played with some next-level mindgames that series. He deserved the win, even if we were rooting for Jaedong.
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Jaedong breaking hearts every finals he attends. I'm a fan of all 16 players so it was ok, but still disappointing to see JD fall time after time =(
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I was rooting for JD but sOs is a genius. Awesome play.
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Jaedong was Jaekong anyway during his last final encouters with Flash in Broodwar.
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The tears of JD fans in this thread makes me so happy. Love when Zerg gets wrecked and they whine. Miss Idra supreme whine.
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One thing I don't see changing anytime soon is Protoss players getting a lot of flack for the way they play. Like I said earlier, if you go back to the other points in time where a Protoss was doing well you'd always see other folks ragging on their playstyle. Now that we have a bunch of them and they all have their different tics? It's making it very hard for the other players. This isn't Brood Lord/Infestor all over again. It's very different unit compositions and timings that make it hard to adjust to.
Hate on protoss gets really obnoxious sometimes. The memory of the protoss deathball days might still be in their minds, and they retain the hatred which is now applied to the new generation of protoss pros who actually play differently from each other.
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Despite Jaedong playing brilliantly in his games against Dear and Maru(game 5 against Dear was perfectly timed), he fell short against sOs. I'm a Jaedong fan but also part sOs fan after his games against Innovation back in season 1 finals(game 4 in particular). I think sOs deserved and earned that win over Jaedong. Jaedong gave away a won game in game 1 just because he had a certain mindset and couldn't be flexible with his plan. Honestly, he had 3 vipers, maxed roach+hydra and just abducted two colossi and killed them. sOs was down to one colossi, a pack of hts and mostly sentries. All Jaedong had to do was abduct the last colossi and a-move(moving out of storms if needed) and he would've won. Then he gets maxed on ultras while sOs starts producing double immortals. Eventually he decides to base trade and what's worse is that originally sOs started double phoenix production! He saw the spire, panicked, made another stargate and started making phoenixes. If Jaedong just attacked with his roach+hydra army then remxed on ultras and a-moved, he would've taken that game.
Game 2 was a roll, it's not even worth mentioning. sOs completely dismantled Jaedong. COMPLETELY!
Game 3 was just Jaedong showing his late game and such. sOs got dismantled although Jaedong PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE learn to scout. Seeing that hidden base for sOs not get scouted the whole game even though all it would take is for Jaedong to switch move a ling towards there was painful. For someone who is called the tyrant, lacking of scouting during most of his games was quite apparent and is a major weakness of his.
Game 4 was wtf for me. He scouted the robo, the wrap prism and saw the immortals then he decided to engage in a small choke against time wrap ><; Fail game on Jaedong's part.
Game 5 was one of the saddest of all. Again, Jaedong not scouting around meant he missed the pylon and all sOs had to do was move zealots into the exp to take out 10+ drones. Worse of all, Jaedong checks and he STILL can't find the pylon until towards the end of the game...
As I mentioned, I'm a big Jaedong fan and cheered for him in all his tournaments(the ones I got to watch) and he did not deserve to win that last one. He may be a mechanical monster but as someone mentioned, it's like he follows a script. He almost always goes mutas in all his vP matches. I can understand vT for drops and in general, but in vP, almost always mutas. His weakness is that if his gameplan doesn't go as planned, he will lose the game and that he doesn't scout. sOs was brilliant in the games. Dismantling Jaedong in that second game was amazing then just straight up beating him in situations which aren't hard to defend against(game 4 and 5) was lol worthy. He is indeed quite a player and hope to see more of him in the future.
PS I think Jaedong played against sOs in a previous finals or something and lost to him 2-1 or something. sOs's style is the perfect counter to Jaedong's imo.
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aw fuck.. blizzcon was this weekend.. i thought it was next weekend. god damit.
and wow jaedong 2nd again?
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Was a pretty sweet grand finals but would have been much better had the games been closer towards the end. Really wanted JD to win but congrats to sOs he earned it.
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So happy Jaedong lost. And in such humiliating fashion.
Grats sOs, very very smartly and imaginatively played.
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On November 11 2013 11:43 BigFan wrote:
Despite Jaedong playing brilliantly in his games against Dear and Maru(game 5 against Dear was perfectly timed), he fell short against sOs. I'm a Jaedong fan but also part sOs fan after his games against Innovation back in season 1 finals(game 4 in particular). I think sOs deserved and earned that win over Jaedong. Jaedong gave away a won game in game 1 just because he had a certain mindset and couldn't be flexible with his plan. Honestly, he had 3 vipers, maxed roach+hydra and just abducted two colossi and killed them. sOs was down to one colossi, a pack of hts and mostly sentries. All Jaedong had to do was abduct the last colossi and a-move(moving out of storms if needed) and he would've won. Then he gets maxed on ultras while sOs starts producing double immortals. Eventually he decides to base trade and what's worse is that originally sOs started double phoenix production! He saw the spire, panicked, made another stargate and started making phoenixes. If Jaedong just attacked with his roach+hydra army then remxed on ultras and a-moved, he would've taken that game.
Game 2 was a roll, it's not even worth mentioning. sOs completely dismantled Jaedong. COMPLETELY!
Game 3 was just Jaedong showing his late game and such. sOs got dismantled although Jaedong PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE learn to scout. Seeing that hidden base for sOs not get scouted the whole game even though all it would take is for Jaedong to switch move a ling towards there was painful. For someone who is called the tyrant, lacking of scouting during most of his games was quite apparent and is a major weakness of his.
Game 4 was wtf for me. He scouted the robo, the wrap prism and saw the immortals then he decided to engage in a small choke against time wrap ><; Fail game on Jaedong's part.
Game 5 was one of the saddest of all. Again, Jaedong not scouting around meant he missed the pylon and all sOs had to do was move zealots into the exp to take out 10+ drones. Worse of all, Jaedong checks and he STILL can't find the pylon until towards the end of the game...
As I mentioned, I'm a big Jaedong fan and cheered for him in all his tournaments(the ones I got to watch) and he did not deserve to win that last one. He may be a mechanical monster but as someone mentioned, it's like he follows a script. He almost always goes mutas in all his vP matches. I can understand vT for drops and in general, but in vP, almost always mutas. His weakness is that if his gameplan doesn't go as planned, he will lose the game and that he doesn't scout. sOs was brilliant in the games. Dismantling Jaedong in that second game was amazing then just straight up beating him in situations which aren't hard to defend against(game 4 and 5) was lol worthy. He is indeed quite a player and hope to see more of him in the future.
PS I think Jaedong played against sOs in a previous finals or something and lost to him 2-1 or something. sOs's style is the perfect counter to Jaedong's imo.
Nice analysis Bigfan. Jaedong certainly should have won Game 1 major fail not a moveing after taking out colossi - by same token sOs should have won game 3 with a simple a move 8 gate at about 11 min. Score would be same 4-1.
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On November 11 2013 05:11 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 04:41 Tobblish wrote:On November 11 2013 04:30 Faruko wrote:
Finally a player plays Protoss with its "full" potential and the community bashes him... SC2 its losing ground not because sOs beat JD with clever gameplay mechanics and tactics, and outsmarting him to the point of making JD looking like a fool falling each and every time in sOs plan, but because the community wants every match to be "do not chesee --> turtle for 30 minutes with harras to get a little edge --> deathball --> fight"
This is getting silly, nobody said ANYTHING when JD baneling busted Maru 2 (or was 3?) games in a row, because it was "The Dong", but suddenly comes a player, that TL defines as a "faceless korean" which actually shows how much does some people know about SC2 (watch Proleague, please...), and put JD to shame with his mind games and unorthodox play style and now everything is "SC2 is dead, RIP SC2, JD SOOO MUCH BETTER"
If i were playing for a 100k i would do everything in my power to win, and so will everyone Blame every single caster, personality and host for not being able to create enough hype for every player. Go back two weeks(?) to the Season Finals in Toronto, every player got cheered for it was epic. Meanwhile at Blizzcon it was the standard " I'm only going to cheer for my favorite player and no one else". The crowd reactions when Jaekong defended/attacked something was night and day when compared to sOs, it was the good guy vs that evil bosses little brother and the casters even if they tried at times got carried away sadly. Blizzard tried with the quick tournament recap for the players but that was the end, even at the analystdesk it was Jaedong..Jaedong.....oh yeah and Jaedong. I wonder how many times we'll have to repeat it to have change. Oh yes such a shame that people wanted jaedong to win and cheered for him instead of his opponent.
Obvious you didn't get what I was saying, if you think that it should always be everyone against one then it's fine but if you want it all to expand you can't have everyone getting together for one player.
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On November 11 2013 13:20 redviper wrote:
So happy Jaedong lost. And in such humiliating fashion.
Grats sOs, very very smartly and imaginatively played.
Come on man there's no need for that. Isn't it just better to say something like, "I'm glad sOs won, and so convincingly!" than to just bash on JD? Don't be that guy man.
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On November 11 2013 05:11 skatblast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 04:41 Tobblish wrote:On November 11 2013 04:30 Faruko wrote:
Finally a player plays Protoss with its "full" potential and the community bashes him... SC2 its losing ground not because sOs beat JD with clever gameplay mechanics and tactics, and outsmarting him to the point of making JD looking like a fool falling each and every time in sOs plan, but because the community wants every match to be "do not chesee --> turtle for 30 minutes with harras to get a little edge --> deathball --> fight"
This is getting silly, nobody said ANYTHING when JD baneling busted Maru 2 (or was 3?) games in a row, because it was "The Dong", but suddenly comes a player, that TL defines as a "faceless korean" which actually shows how much does some people know about SC2 (watch Proleague, please...), and put JD to shame with his mind games and unorthodox play style and now everything is "SC2 is dead, RIP SC2, JD SOOO MUCH BETTER"
If i were playing for a 100k i would do everything in my power to win, and so will everyone Blame every single caster, personality and host for not being able to create enough hype for every player. Go back two weeks(?) to the Season Finals in Toronto, every player got cheered for it was epic. Meanwhile at Blizzcon it was the standard " I'm only going to cheer for my favorite player and no one else". The crowd reactions when Jaekong defended/attacked something was night and day when compared to sOs, it was the good guy vs that evil bosses little brother and the casters even if they tried at times got carried away sadly. Blizzard tried with the quick tournament recap for the players but that was the end, even at the analystdesk it was Jaedong..Jaedong.....oh yeah and Jaedong. I wonder how many times we'll have to repeat it to have change. Oh yes such a shame that people wanted jaedong to win and cheered for him instead of his opponent.
Wait you like Jaedong? But he left a Kespa team for a no doubt inferior foreign team. I thought you hated that stuff man.
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This just means Jaedong will be even more motivated to win DH. I hope he wins that since sOs won't be there to stop him. Innovation will be there but we all know JD severely out classes innovation in every way. JD has better micro, macro, multi tasking, and so on.
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Congrats sOs! I hope that JD can win a championship soon
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