EPTWCS Grand Finals Recap - Page 18
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icclown
Denmark270 Posts
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XtreMe_au
Australia412 Posts
On November 11 2013 15:00 ladysman09 wrote: This just means Jaedong will be even more motivated to win DH. I hope he wins that since sOs won't be there to stop him. Innovation will be there but we all know JD severely out classes innovation in every way. JD has better micro, macro, multi tasking, and so on. Just no. Though neither are particularly strategic. I really hope they follow through with making mech and bio viable. Zerg and Protoss have so many options whilst Terran have none. | ||
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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meccudylossan
Australia3 Posts
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TaishiCi
Korea (South)211 Posts
On November 11 2013 21:45 XtreMe_au wrote: Just no. Though neither are particularly strategic. I really hope they follow through with making mech and bio viable. Zerg and Protoss have so many options whilst Terran have none. Widow mine nerf is going to force players into more helbat compositions. Many have already adapted to a more helbat mmm. Personally I think Thors should be utilized better, now with their attack changing from light to heavy they do fairly well against Broods and Ultras. | ||
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Anvil666
Germany122 Posts
JAEDONG FIGHTING! | ||
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
On November 11 2013 11:27 opterown wrote: ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYwZi_kCQAEeC1K.jpg) | ||
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vladtepestr
Croatia6 Posts
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
 PartinG Top 3 Korea Finals Top 2 Asia Finals Top 1 Global Finals WCS 2013 sOsTop 3 Korea Finals Top 2 Season Finals Top 1 Global Finals | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On November 10 2013 11:21 Plexa wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/578940jdwins.gif) GGs! Can't wait for WCS 2014. Best response ever. | ||
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Beyond Magic
Finland130 Posts
A while ago i was scared that he might fall of like flash but he sure proved me wrong. Specially JD vs Maru was something crazy, their game in Frost was insane to watch. Looking at jaedongs muta control denying every single medivac no matter how long route maru took, apm spiking in +650 and he literally doing everything everywhere. It was sad that he lost the finals, but beating maru and dear is already amazing. JD Fighting ! | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
On November 11 2013 23:51 Beyond Magic wrote: Jaedongs run on this tournament was something awesome to watch. A while ago i was scared that he might fall of like flash but he sure proved me wrong. Specially JD vs Maru was something crazy, their game in Frost was insane to watch. Looking at jaedongs muta control denying every single medivac no matter how long route maru took, apm spiking in +650 and he literally doing everything everywhere. It was sad that he lost the finals, but beating maru and dear is already amazing. JD Fighting ! Flash vs Jaedong next WCS finals I promise  | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 11 2013 19:32 Crackpot wrote: Ofcourse iam putting much weight on that series, because its the series to find out whos the very best,... at least I think thats the basic idea of that tournament. I agree with you that JangBi played pretty good, he was my favorite toss. In my eyes he played the most aggressive toss and his micro and mechanics were always on top (even when he lost on osl). I just dont like inconsistency, or players showing in one series over-the-top mechanics/multitasking/micro and one series later they play like if they just don't care about anything. (That are some points were JangBi never failed, he maybe failed in decision making) I just don't see those kind of players as the "very best". Maybe you are right and Proleague should be the most important tournament. peace There is no such things as absolutes in this game. Having one bad series doesn't make you bad, lol. You have to look at the player's whole body of work in relation to time as well. Goes back to what I said before, there are a lot of players out there who can win on any given Sunday and that's the whole basis of LAN fields (let's face it, we're living in the day and age of the Western Lan model). That isn't going to change nor should it because the costs are already high enough as is holding such events. Just another reason we see this tournament at Blizzcon. We're killing a nest of birds with one stone. If someone gets really hot. Good luck trying to stop them. It's the same premise as when Hwanni and I looked at Leenock and said, "Shit. This kid is going to win MLG." Didn't matter he was behind in map score to DRG. I'll borrow a page from the casters, "Leenock was playing out of his mind." I wouldn't call it inconsistency because a lot of these players are actually fairly consistent. It's wrong to only go by their wins in tournaments. These guys consistently get results in league play and they consistently go far in the tournaments they attend. The WCS KR is hard to judge because there are so many mine bombs in the field that you need a little more luck dodging the shrapnel compared to other tournaments. The skill level and threats are just that much higher and for many of those players. It's the only way they can make a name for themselves. I have no idea what you have against JangBi because right before he retired. He was getting very, very good and he was Khan's most consistent player in PL. Khan could always rely on him to get the win in the Ace match as long as the Series got there. The guy quit because he didn't enjoy the game anymore regardless of success. Simple as that and I'm not saying Pro League is the most important indicator, but it's a place where we constantly get to see the KeSPA rosters go head-to-head and showcase their skills over a long period of time. Does this reflect back on the Individual Leagues? Not necessarily. As I said before going back to the BW days there were many players who you could rely upon when it came to PL but that doesn't mean they were getting the individual results at the same time. In fact, several players would go MIA or would get knocked out early whether it be the qualifiers or early stages. For instance, guys like Sea and Bisu. Who are actually performing very well after going back to BW/afreeca/SOSPA. Well, Bisu is just about to start in Sonic but he's been beating a lot of the top dogs thus far on his stream constantly. Hopefully he doesn't die to hydra busts. :/ | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 11 2013 23:36 LockeTazeline wrote: Anyone else excited for WCS 2014? =D That photo is so fucking good. Glad we have moved to a era where players lose their shit when they win and don't just stay on booth. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On November 11 2013 21:45 XtreMe_au wrote: Just no. Though neither are particularly strategic. I really hope they follow through with making mech and bio viable. Zerg and Protoss have so many options whilst Terran have none. This guy just generally makes troll-ish posts and tries to rile people up. Best to just ignore him when he makes these kinds of claims. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On November 11 2013 21:15 icclown wrote: Great finals... Was cheering for JD, but sOs definately deserved the win!! I agree. I felt the same way - very disappointed that JD lost, but sOs played a great finals. Hopefully he keeps it up, instead of just grabbing a finals from a legend and disappearing like so many top Protosses. | ||
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.....(cooltype)
Turkey2 Posts
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
If people are fans of Jaedong they are allowed to be sad he lost. If people don't like sos they are allowed to not cheer for him, despite what he might have won or might win. If you like sos, then fucking cheer for him. Make a tribute thread, spam cheerfuls, photoshop him into your favorite movie posters. That's what fans do. But don't fucking expect fans of the guy he just crushed to get on board. I can't believe this isn't common sense. yeah, I might be a fan of 'football', but if my home team loses, I'm not gonna say "well, the opponents sure played great, what an exciting match". I'm gonna yell. And no one who loves football would blame me. But apparently when I watch starcraft I have to love everyone equally or I might hurt Esports™. If Esports™ can't handle me cheering for the player I like, then just take it out behind the shed already. Then people can leave it alone, and I can cheer for Jaedong on my own. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On November 12 2013 01:39 Vorenius wrote: All this "love of the game", "just appreciate the matches" bullshit is getting real tired. If people are fans of Jaedong they are allowed to be sad he lost. If people don't like sos they are allowed to not cheer for him, despite what he might have won or might win. If you like sos, then fucking cheer for him. Make a tribute thread, spam cheerfuls, photoshop him into your favorite movie posters. That's what fans do. But don't fucking expect fans of the guy he just crushed to get on board. I can't believe this isn't common sense. yeah, I might be a fan of 'football', but if my home team loses, I'm not gonna say "well, the opponents sure played great, what an exciting match". I'm gonna yell. And no one who loves football would blame me. But apparently when I watch starcraft I have to love everyone equally or I might hurt Esports™. If Esports™ can't handle me cheering for the player I like, then just take it out behind the shed already. Then people can leave it alone, and I can cheer for Jaedong on my own. Here's the thing, you don't have to cheer for sOs. You don't have to like him, post nice things about him, any of that. However, you do have to maintain a certain level of civility when talking about him, at least here. Basically that just means no "protoss imba" "sOs just cheesed him didn't deserve the win". Other than that you can do whatever you want pretty much. Cheer for JD. | ||
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