I'm utterly disappointed by both ep 5 games design. Sangmin's per:
On December 31 2013 19:52 DaftFunk wrote: SPOILERS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ want his deal, they shouldnt have LET HIM CHEAT FOR THEM or NOT AGREE TO HIS PLANS!!!!
but what bugs me more.... are these stupid "Deathmatches", where its now become more ofD to his proposition when they followed his plans, and they all except yellow and junghyun intentionally gave him away when jiwon had to choose his opponent.
beyond that, yellow looks to be in strong contention to win again. its shocking to see how much of a joke boxer is. i wont sugar coat it, sorry guys. but boxer plain isnt the genius we expected him to be.
I'm pretty sure Jinho is a fan favourite, as it happens to be mine as well. So preventing boxer dying would raise the chances of a much acclaimed LimJinRok just for fan service, rather than play it right and give a fair chance to everyone.
So you think Koreans like jinho the most, because You like him? Lol. There is a bts in season 1 where eunji didn't even know who yellow was. There's a reason these guys call each other " celebrities " and " non-celebrities" and " broadcasters" etc. You have to really overrate old school bw progamer fame in Korea to think that they are even close to TV stars like sangmin and hongchul. The desire from the show for a limjinrok match is considered a bonus, not the shows main draw.
In season 2 (and the later half of season 1) at least, Yellow is one of the main draws. He's the overwhelming fan favorite in Korea, while they're mostly pissed off at the celebrities.
After winning s1 he is the favorite and rightfully so. When he first came on he was just another contender who had skills that fit into the game style like every other player.
On January 12 2014 01:18 electricelephant wrote: Can anyone tell me where i can watch the new episodes RAW? Thanks for the translations so far, really enjoying the show!
So many betrayals in this episode. Like 20 min of the episode was Sangmin finding the exemption wings. Boxer helps him, but Sangmin betrays Boxer and leaves him in the dust with free wings, and Boxer with nothing. At first I was pissed that he just said screw off to Boxer but if Boxer was in his position, he would have done the same thing. And he probably was planning to leave Sangmin in the dust too, but not as bad as Sangmin left him in the dust. I feel that Boxer has more humanity in him and is not that heartless. As a person, the shitter thing was that Sangmin was planning to make Boxer and Yellow face each other in the death match game. Ouch Boxer, you got used bro.
Main game, you have a fkton of TV broadcasters ruining their images. Jiwon and Yooyoung STEAL Doohee's card and never give that shit back(What a role model for little kids watching them on public tv,). Without the card, Doohee is forced to lose the game without even having played the game. (I thought that TV personalities actually cared about their images, but fk fair play, fk your image.) That potential at max 200K prize money you have a low chance of winning, is more important. Not like Jiwon can't make that money by selling an album.
So second part of the game, they tell Doohee that they're sorry for stealing his card, ruining the concept of the show "The Genius" and leaving him like a pitiful little fker who can't even play the game this week, and as an apology they send him to the death match. WTF! But don't worry guys, all part of the game. It's a game right? These kinds of things can happen. The worst part of all of this is TV personalities telling him that they're sorry and shit, like they're going to help him or something. I feel like they just don't want to seem that bitchy to the public, but too bad it gets worse.
So to make up for sending him to the death match, Sangmin tells Doohee that he's going to give him his exemption wings that he found in the safe. That should make up for it... In return he wants Doohee to send Boxer and Yellow to the deathmatch.
Deathmatch: Doohee originally said he wanted to face Yellow in a deathmatch, but he's like fk that, I'm pissed. And he's like, I use these wings to send Yooyoung and Noh Hongchul to the deathmatch(cuz Jiwon had immunity.) Then it turns out that Sangmin is a lying, betraying, fker, and gave him fake wings, cuz fk you, this game is all about him, and only him winning. So up to now, we have like 3 lies by the TV personalities. #1 I don't have your card, #2 We're really sorry about how we fked you over Doohee #3 We're going to send Boxer and Yellow to the deathmatch. Nope sry Doohee, we never planned on sending Yellow and Boxer to the deathmatch, just you and Yellow or Boxer.
So it ends up Doohee and Yooyoung in the deathmatch. It's the same stupid game from ep 4 where everything goes dark and no1 can see shit, and you have to press the green or red button. So in the deathmatch, Jiwon tells Doohee that he is sorry for stealing his card and that he will help him out in the deathmatch. Then Jiwon lies in his face AGAIN and royally screws him over and makes him lose the game. wtf bro, seriously, again? After you told Doohee that he could trust you 100%, you betrayed him again? Like I know this is a game, but don't you at least have enough dignity to tell him that you won't help him? How many times do you have to fk up and backstab this guy. What's the point of being sorry if you're going to f him over like that. Jiwon, your image is already fked up and down the drain. At this point I'm like, is there a Jiwon anti-cafe around here? Cuz I want to fking sign up and send Jiwon messages saying fk you for an hour, and then get on with my life.
And then to sum this episode all up, the Genius staff edits the ending part to kind of make it look like it's Doohee's naivety, and him trusting people that led him to his downfall. And then Doohee tells his story of how we got betrayed big twice in his life, and no1 really seems to care, and Sangmin tells him that there are probably gonna be shittier things that will happen in his life. (What a good encouragement bro. I would expect to see an apology here for lying) But it's a game. And shit like this can happen. Because in a game, you can be a bitch all you want, under the pretense that it's just a game. But ok, let's look at this non emotionally here. It feels like all of the TV personalities are in it for themselves. For survival, they are willing to do the dirty deeds, even if those deeds are dirty as fk. And as I try to understand things from both perspectives, I ask myself, how much was survival in this round worth it for the Tv peoplez. I mean, if you look at it from a bigger perspective, the TV peoplez gained a shot at 200K, which not every1 can win, while they lost their images that they worked so hard to build up, and a lot of fans. Was 200K worth it for them? If they are really looking at things logically, the logical thing would have been to use the show to benefit you. A chance for 200K in the short run vs a longer career where you're loved in the long run. Seems to me that the second option is the better option.
Then we get to the case about Jiwon. In the episode, it shows Jiwon pretty much f'ing his image in the game(as some1 trustworthy), and his image to the public. He betrays Doohee like a fk ton of times, and he betrays Doohee the hardest at the end. He gave up his chance for redemption for Yooyoung. And it's hard to really understand why he would do that. In the game, Yooyoung is a better ally to him than Doohee. So he would obviously pick Yooyoung. But his life is bigger than just the Genius game. So it leads me to the conclusion that Jiwon(as a divorced man) wants to bang Yooyoung. Only reason he would go so far for her. And I feel that Jiwon picking his penis over his head is going to cost him.
Lastly, I want to talk about Doohee. (zzzz fck this, I'm typing all this in like 5 min.) I feel like Doohee is like a little kid. He believes people, he gets easily influenced by those around him, and he has like 0 assertiveness, as in it feels like every1 else in the Genius game is an adult, and he's a kid, and he's just obeying them like a child would their parent. That's how powerless I feel Doohee is in the game. When Doohee's card gets taken, he just kind of takes it, going around to ask people for his card politely, like they'll give it back. I had hoped that he would be more assertive and kind of demand his card back, because it's obvious that some1 stole his card. At least if he pressured people to give his card back, he would have gotten better results than just passively getting fked up the ass without being able to do anything.
And also, Doohee's naivety/trustworthiness. I feel like when the other people on the show take a royal fking up the ass, they take it better/let it go, or at least hold it in better, but I feel like Doohee has a hard time dealing with the betrayals of the show.
Netizenbuzz just posted these translated comments. I haven't read them but I'm getting hyped due to all the excitement coming from people who have seen ep.6
On January 12 2014 01:18 electricelephant wrote: Can anyone tell me where i can watch the new episodes RAW? Thanks for the translations so far, really enjoying the show!
So many betrayals in this episode. Like 20 min of the episode was Sangmin finding the exemption wings. Boxer helps him, but Sangmin betrays Boxer and leaves him in the dust with free wings, and Boxer with nothing. At first I was pissed that he just said screw off to Boxer but if Boxer was in his position, he would have done the same thing. And he probably was planning to leave Sangmin in the dust too, but not as bad as Sangmin left him in the dust. I feel that Boxer has more humanity in him and is not that heartless. As a person, the shitter thing was that Sangmin was planning to make Boxer and Yellow face each other in the death match game. Ouch Boxer, you got used bro.
Main game, you have a fkton of TV broadcasters ruining their images. Jiwon and Yooyoung STEAL Doohee's card and never give that shit back(What a role model for little kids watching them on public tv,). Without the card, Doohee is forced to lose the game without even having played the game. (I thought that TV personalities actually cared about their images, but fk fair play, fk your image.) That potential at max 200K prize money you have a low chance of winning, is more important. Not like Jiwon can't make that money by selling an album.
So second part of the game, they tell Doohee that they're sorry for stealing his card, ruining the concept of the show "The Genius" and leaving him like a pitiful little fker who can't even play the game this week, and as an apology they send him to the death match. WTF! But don't worry guys, all part of the game. It's a game right? These kinds of things can happen. The worst part of all of this is TV personalities telling him that they're sorry and shit, like they're going to help him or something. I feel like they just don't want to seem that bitchy to the public, but too bad it gets worse.
So to make up for sending him to the death match, Sangmin tells Doohee that he's going to give him his exemption wings that he found in the safe. That should make up for it... In return he wants Doohee to send Boxer and Yellow to the deathmatch.
Deathmatch: Doohee originally said he wanted to face Yellow in a deathmatch, but he's like fk that, I'm pissed. And he's like, I use these wings to send Yooyoung and Noh Hongchul to the deathmatch(cuz Jiwon had immunity.) Then it turns out that Sangmin is a lying, betraying, fker, and gave him fake wings, cuz fk you, this game is all about him, and only him winning. So up to now, we have like 3 lies by the TV personalities. #1 I don't have your card, #2 We're really sorry about how we fked you over Doohee #3 We're going to send Boxer and Yellow to the deathmatch. Nope sry Doohee, we never planned on sending Yellow and Boxer to the deathmatch, just you and Yellow or Boxer.
So it ends up Doohee and Yooyoung in the deathmatch. It's the same stupid game from ep 4 where everything goes dark and no1 can see shit, and you have to press the green or red button. So in the deathmatch, Jiwon tells Doohee that he is sorry for stealing his card and that he will help him out in the deathmatch. Then Jiwon lies in his face AGAIN and royally screws him over and makes him lose the game. wtf bro, seriously, again? After you told Doohee that he could trust you 100%, you betrayed him again? Like I know this is a game, but don't you at least have enough dignity to tell him that you won't help him? How many times do you have to fk up and backstab this guy. What's the point of being sorry if you're going to f him over like that. Jiwon, your image is already fked up and down the drain. At this point I'm like, is there a Jiwon anti-cafe around here? Cuz I want to fking sign up and send Jiwon messages saying fk you for an hour, and then get on with my life.
And then to sum this episode all up, the Genius staff edits the ending part to kind of make it look like it's Doohee's naivety, and him trusting people that led him to his downfall. And then Doohee tells his story of how we got betrayed big twice in his life, and no1 really seems to care, and Sangmin tells him that there are probably gonna be shittier things that will happen in his life. (What a good encouragement bro. I would expect to see an apology here for lying) But it's a game. And shit like this can happen. Because in a game, you can be a bitch all you want, under the pretense that it's just a game. But ok, let's look at this non emotionally here. It feels like all of the TV personalities are in it for themselves. For survival, they are willing to do the dirty deeds, even if those deeds are dirty as fk. And as I try to understand things from both perspectives, I ask myself, how much was survival in this round worth it for the Tv peoplez. I mean, if you look at it from a bigger perspective, the TV peoplez gained a shot at 200K, which not every1 can win, while they lost their images that they worked so hard to build up, and a lot of fans. Was 200K worth it for them? If they are really looking at things logically, the logical thing would have been to use the show to benefit you. A chance for 200K in the short run vs a longer career where you're loved in the long run. Seems to me that the second option is the better option.
Then we get to the case about Jiwon. In the episode, it shows Jiwon pretty much f'ing his image in the game(as some1 trustworthy), and his image to the public. He betrays Doohee like a fk ton of times, and he betrays Doohee the hardest at the end. He gave up his chance for redemption for Yooyoung. And it's hard to really understand why he would do that. In the game, Yooyoung is a better ally to him than Doohee. So he would obviously pick Yooyoung. But his life is bigger than just the Genius game. So it leads me to the conclusion that Jiwon(as a divorced man) wants to bang Yooyoung. Only reason he would go so far for her. And I feel that Jiwon picking his penis over his head is going to cost him.
Lastly, I want to talk about Doohee. (zzzz fck this, I'm typing all this in like 5 min.) I feel like Doohee is like a little kid. He believes people, he gets easily influenced by those around him, and he has like 0 assertiveness, as in it feels like every1 else in the Genius game is an adult, and he's a kid, and he's just obeying them like a child would their parent. That's how powerless I feel Doohee is in the game. When Doohee's card gets taken, he just kind of takes it, going around to ask people for his card politely, like they'll give it back. I had hoped that he would be more assertive and kind of demand his card back, because it's obvious that some1 stole his card. At least if he pressured people to give his card back, he would have gotten better results than just passively getting fked up the ass without being able to do anything.
And also, Doohee's naivety/trustworthiness. I feel like when the other people on the show take a royal fking up the ass, they take it better/let it go, or at least hold it in better, but I feel like Doohee has a hard time dealing with the betrayals of the show.
This. You can hardly blame Doohee for not making a fuss, he's shown he's the better person. Also looking at the reaction of the netizens, in the end the broadcasters may in fact have grabbed the short end of the stick, reputation wise. That's also why Jinho has gained so much popularity through this show, by having a very well aligned moral compass. I'm glad that apperantly the majority of viewers have that general feeling.
I'm so hoping for Jiwon to utterly fail in episode 7, and especially so in a deadmatch. If not in seven, I'd take any episode, as long as he crashes and burns! Same goes for the other broadcasters to a lesser extent.
I'm utterly disappointed by both ep 5 games design. Sangmin's per:
On December 31 2013 19:52 DaftFunk wrote: SPOILERS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ want his deal, they shouldnt have LET HIM CHEAT FOR THEM or NOT AGREE TO HIS PLANS!!!!
but what bugs me more.... are these stupid "Deathmatches", where its now become more ofD to his proposition when they followed his plans, and they all except yellow and junghyun intentionally gave him away when jiwon had to choose his opponent.
beyond that, yellow looks to be in strong contention to win again. its shocking to see how much of a joke boxer is. i wont sugar coat it, sorry guys. but boxer plain isnt the genius we expected him to be.
I'm pretty sure Jinho is a fan favourite, as it happens to be mine as well. So preventing boxer dying would raise the chances of a much acclaimed LimJinRok just for fan service, rather than play it right and give a fair chance to everyone.
So you think Koreans like jinho the most, because You like him? Lol. There is a bts in season 1 where eunji didn't even know who yellow was. There's a reason these guys call each other " celebrities " and " non-celebrities" and " broadcasters" etc. You have to really overrate old school bw progamer fame in Korea to think that they are even close to TV stars like sangmin and hongchul. The desire from the show for a limjinrok match is considered a bonus, not the shows main draw.
but wasn't eunji also just an announcer that happened to be "extremely" pretty? Pretty sure the number of people initially turning into the show because it had a celebrity they liked was probably 1. Sungyu 2/3: Kim Gura/Yellow.
what was exetly so genius about that yellow thing? wasn't the only thing he could saw if the card was faced upwards/ downwards or that it was a number/multiplier?
it was b/c he noticed like the tiny tiny tiny difference between upside right and upside down that led to him knowing where all his multipliers were (like he turned the multipliers upside down and all the numbers upside right. The genius part is that it's such a small tiny thing to notice, you'd have to be seriously staring at every little part of the cards to realize something like that. and everybody else there didnt notice something so small, so that even though everybody else was shunning him, he still kicked all their asses
Yellow had that part covered. He already checked with the dealers beforehand about how the cards would be handled when submitted and if they would mix the directions of the cards while shuffling, which they said they wouldn't. In addition, because of the 10-card limit of the equation, he could well afford to have the first card wrong as it would be discarded if he got the rest of the equation correct.
On January 12 2014 01:18 electricelephant wrote: Can anyone tell me where i can watch the new episodes RAW? Thanks for the translations so far, really enjoying the show!
So many betrayals in this episode. Like 20 min of the episode was Sangmin finding the exemption wings. Boxer helps him, but Sangmin betrays Boxer and leaves him in the dust with free wings, and Boxer with nothing. At first I was pissed that he just said screw off to Boxer but if Boxer was in his position, he would have done the same thing. And he probably was planning to leave Sangmin in the dust too, but not as bad as Sangmin left him in the dust. I feel that Boxer has more humanity in him and is not that heartless. As a person, the shitter thing was that Sangmin was planning to make Boxer and Yellow face each other in the death match game. Ouch Boxer, you got used bro.
Main game, you have a fkton of TV broadcasters ruining their images. Jiwon and Yooyoung STEAL Doohee's card and never give that shit back(What a role model for little kids watching them on public tv,). Without the card, Doohee is forced to lose the game without even having played the game. (I thought that TV personalities actually cared about their images, but fk fair play, fk your image.) That potential at max 200K prize money you have a low chance of winning, is more important. Not like Jiwon can't make that money by selling an album.
So second part of the game, they tell Doohee that they're sorry for stealing his card, ruining the concept of the show "The Genius" and leaving him like a pitiful little fker who can't even play the game this week, and as an apology they send him to the death match. WTF! But don't worry guys, all part of the game. It's a game right? These kinds of things can happen. The worst part of all of this is TV personalities telling him that they're sorry and shit, like they're going to help him or something. I feel like they just don't want to seem that bitchy to the public, but too bad it gets worse.
So to make up for sending him to the death match, Sangmin tells Doohee that he's going to give him his exemption wings that he found in the safe. That should make up for it... In return he wants Doohee to send Boxer and Yellow to the deathmatch.
Deathmatch: Doohee originally said he wanted to face Yellow in a deathmatch, but he's like fk that, I'm pissed. And he's like, I use these wings to send Yooyoung and Noh Hongchul to the deathmatch(cuz Jiwon had immunity.) Then it turns out that Sangmin is a lying, betraying, fker, and gave him fake wings, cuz fk you, this game is all about him, and only him winning. So up to now, we have like 3 lies by the TV personalities. #1 I don't have your card, #2 We're really sorry about how we fked you over Doohee #3 We're going to send Boxer and Yellow to the deathmatch. Nope sry Doohee, we never planned on sending Yellow and Boxer to the deathmatch, just you and Yellow or Boxer.
So it ends up Doohee and Yooyoung in the deathmatch. It's the same stupid game from ep 4 where everything goes dark and no1 can see shit, and you have to press the green or red button. So in the deathmatch, Jiwon tells Doohee that he is sorry for stealing his card and that he will help him out in the deathmatch. Then Jiwon lies in his face AGAIN and royally screws him over and makes him lose the game. wtf bro, seriously, again? After you told Doohee that he could trust you 100%, you betrayed him again? Like I know this is a game, but don't you at least have enough dignity to tell him that you won't help him? How many times do you have to fk up and backstab this guy. What's the point of being sorry if you're going to f him over like that. Jiwon, your image is already fked up and down the drain. At this point I'm like, is there a Jiwon anti-cafe around here? Cuz I want to fking sign up and send Jiwon messages saying fk you for an hour, and then get on with my life.
And then to sum this episode all up, the Genius staff edits the ending part to kind of make it look like it's Doohee's naivety, and him trusting people that led him to his downfall. And then Doohee tells his story of how we got betrayed big twice in his life, and no1 really seems to care, and Sangmin tells him that there are probably gonna be shittier things that will happen in his life. (What a good encouragement bro. I would expect to see an apology here for lying) But it's a game. And shit like this can happen. Because in a game, you can be a bitch all you want, under the pretense that it's just a game. But ok, let's look at this non emotionally here. It feels like all of the TV personalities are in it for themselves. For survival, they are willing to do the dirty deeds, even if those deeds are dirty as fk. And as I try to understand things from both perspectives, I ask myself, how much was survival in this round worth it for the Tv peoplez. I mean, if you look at it from a bigger perspective, the TV peoplez gained a shot at 200K, which not every1 can win, while they lost their images that they worked so hard to build up, and a lot of fans. Was 200K worth it for them? If they are really looking at things logically, the logical thing would have been to use the show to benefit you. A chance for 200K in the short run vs a longer career where you're loved in the long run. Seems to me that the second option is the better option.
Then we get to the case about Jiwon. In the episode, it shows Jiwon pretty much f'ing his image in the game(as some1 trustworthy), and his image to the public. He betrays Doohee like a fk ton of times, and he betrays Doohee the hardest at the end. He gave up his chance for redemption for Yooyoung. And it's hard to really understand why he would do that. In the game, Yooyoung is a better ally to him than Doohee. So he would obviously pick Yooyoung. But his life is bigger than just the Genius game. So it leads me to the conclusion that Jiwon(as a divorced man) wants to bang Yooyoung. Only reason he would go so far for her. And I feel that Jiwon picking his penis over his head is going to cost him.
Lastly, I want to talk about Doohee. (zzzz fck this, I'm typing all this in like 5 min.) I feel like Doohee is like a little kid. He believes people, he gets easily influenced by those around him, and he has like 0 assertiveness, as in it feels like every1 else in the Genius game is an adult, and he's a kid, and he's just obeying them like a child would their parent. That's how powerless I feel Doohee is in the game. When Doohee's card gets taken, he just kind of takes it, going around to ask people for his card politely, like they'll give it back. I had hoped that he would be more assertive and kind of demand his card back, because it's obvious that some1 stole his card. At least if he pressured people to give his card back, he would have gotten better results than just passively getting fked up the ass without being able to do anything.
And also, Doohee's naivety/trustworthiness. I feel like when the other people on the show take a royal fking up the ass, they take it better/let it go, or at least hold it in better, but I feel like Doohee has a hard time dealing with the betrayals of the show.
I think YellOw and BoxeR were not dealing well with the massive betrayals too, just that they were not on the receiving end of the massive "f-care, let's party and oust all non-entertainers out even if we have to steal!" brouhaha in this episode. There are so many pissed souls out there now about how the programme had turned from The Genius to The Betrayal or The G*ngB*ng of the Grand Theft Entertainers.
One more thing too: at the end that Doohee revealed Jiwon called him once to tell him that he would help him which, well maybe, he did naively trust. When Jiwon was asked about it, he just said he was drunk when he phoned Doohee, ie. sorry I was drunk but you were stupid for believing me.
After the broadcast yesterday, Doohee posted a photo on twitter which looked like a TV studio entry pass with his photo, and thanked people for their overwhelming support (he probably received tons of consolation messages that very night) and that he would need to collect his thoughts before he could say any further. I think it was also the first time he saw Jiwon's confession about being drunk when he made the promise, which explained that he was probably still reeling from shock. After that Doohee also left a "Hyung T_T" (cry) on YellOw's Facebook wall. Maybe because of his kid-like personality, so Doohee took it harder than most people would. Didn't help that Sangmin replied Doohee on Twitter that the episode was a perfect example of Sangmin winning the ugly victory and Doohee the beautiful defeat, and that The Genius was a programme which portrayed this perfectly. I mean, wtf, some scant consolation indeed.
If the production team wants to do a 3rd season, this would be a huge learning experience for them on what NOT to do when it comes to games (F the DM, the third time the g*ngb*ng sh*t being used instead of individual duel like the Indian Poker in the last season), programme editing and selection of participants.
I'll echo the sentiments in season 2 that the entertainers make the games less fun because they're distracting and doing things that make the games straightforward popularity contests rather than doing anything clever. The clever solutions have been stifled quickly by the majority.
BUT, they're playing their game. Of all the players, Yellow is the only one doing any real thinking about the games and he'll probably shine again when the games turn more individual. He came up with the perfect "rule breaker" solution in episode 5 but was too slow to be able to influence the majority (i.e. Sangmin) or sneak it through.
On January 12 2014 10:43 coverpunch wrote: I'll echo the sentiments in season 2 that the entertainers make the games less fun because they're distracting and doing things that make the games straightforward popularity contests rather than doing anything clever. The clever solutions have been stifled quickly by the majority.
BUT, they're playing their game. Of all the players, Yellow is the only one doing any real thinking about the games and he'll probably shine again when the games turn more individual. He came up with the perfect "rule breaker" solution in episode 5 but was too slow to be able to influence the majority (i.e. Sangmin) or sneak it through.
The problem is the immortality sign could be the trump card that may result in a 'YellOw vs BoxeR' DM sooner rather than later, which further isolates the survivor of that DM to fight a lone battle with the rest. The programme has slowly and sadly deviated from coming up with ways to game the games to mass collaboration to oust outsiders.
I'm utterly disappointed by both ep 5 games design. Sangmin's per:
On December 31 2013 19:52 DaftFunk wrote: SPOILERS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ want his deal, they shouldnt have LET HIM CHEAT FOR THEM or NOT AGREE TO HIS PLANS!!!!
but what bugs me more.... are these stupid "Deathmatches", where its now become more ofD to his proposition when they followed his plans, and they all except yellow and junghyun intentionally gave him away when jiwon had to choose his opponent.
beyond that, yellow looks to be in strong contention to win again. its shocking to see how much of a joke boxer is. i wont sugar coat it, sorry guys. but boxer plain isnt the genius we expected him to be.
I'm pretty sure Jinho is a fan favourite, as it happens to be mine as well. So preventing boxer dying would raise the chances of a much acclaimed LimJinRok just for fan service, rather than play it right and give a fair chance to everyone.
So you think Koreans like jinho the most, because You like him? Lol. There is a bts in season 1 where eunji didn't even know who yellow was. There's a reason these guys call each other " celebrities " and " non-celebrities" and " broadcasters" etc. You have to really overrate old school bw progamer fame in Korea to think that they are even close to TV stars like sangmin and hongchul. The desire from the show for a limjinrok match is considered a bonus, not the shows main draw.
but wasn't eunji also just an announcer that happened to be "extremely" pretty? Pretty sure the number of people initially turning into the show because it had a celebrity they liked was probably 1. Sungyu 2/3: Kim Gura/Yellow.
Lol no you missed the point by a mile. Eunji is a TV personality and was part of SNL Korea. Sure jinho might've been more known than poong or cha minsoo (who BTW I've even known for a while yet most Koreans don't k ow because they don't play poker in Korea) but to say he was a huge draw before he won is false. Once he won season 1 was when this thread even came up and ppl on TL started watching. His popularity u could say "reignited" thanks to his genius moments on the show and winning. But not everyone is a die hard bw fan in Korea even if its a national sport. Its mostly young adults that still follow yellow and the rest old/young are interested in the other contestants. If he was so popular and famous why did no one including most of u here didn't watch gsl project code A ??? =D
BTW boxers DM play wasn't stellar anyone with basic game sense could've done that. Stupid game that needs some rules redone. I gaurantee it comes back later with new rules or different pieces/moves because that strategy was somehow missed by the incompetent producers. And I really hate how eu nkyul was right and now its totally divided into 2 groups.
I'm utterly disappointed by both ep 5 games design. Sangmin's per:
On December 31 2013 19:52 DaftFunk wrote: SPOILERS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ want his deal, they shouldnt have LET HIM CHEAT FOR THEM or NOT AGREE TO HIS PLANS!!!!
but what bugs me more.... are these stupid "Deathmatches", where its now become more ofD to his proposition when they followed his plans, and they all except yellow and junghyun intentionally gave him away when jiwon had to choose his opponent.
beyond that, yellow looks to be in strong contention to win again. its shocking to see how much of a joke boxer is. i wont sugar coat it, sorry guys. but boxer plain isnt the genius we expected him to be.
I'm pretty sure Jinho is a fan favourite, as it happens to be mine as well. So preventing boxer dying would raise the chances of a much acclaimed LimJinRok just for fan service, rather than play it right and give a fair chance to everyone.
So you think Koreans like jinho the most, because You like him? Lol. There is a bts in season 1 where eunji didn't even know who yellow was. There's a reason these guys call each other " celebrities " and " non-celebrities" and " broadcasters" etc. You have to really overrate old school bw progamer fame in Korea to think that they are even close to TV stars like sangmin and hongchul. The desire from the show for a limjinrok match is considered a bonus, not the shows main draw.
but wasn't eunji also just an announcer that happened to be "extremely" pretty? Pretty sure the number of people initially turning into the show because it had a celebrity they liked was probably 1. Sungyu 2/3: Kim Gura/Yellow.
Lol no you missed the point by a mile. Eunji is a TV personality and was part of SNL Korea. Sure jinho might've been more known than poong or cha minsoo (who BTW I've even known for a while yet most Koreans don't k ow because they don't play poker in Korea) but to say he was a huge draw before he won is false. Once he won season 1 was when this thread even came up and ppl on TL started watching. His popularity u could say "reignited" thanks to his genius moments on the show and winning. But not everyone is a die hard bw fan in Korea even if its a national sport. Its mostly young adults that still follow yellow and the rest old/young are interested in the other contestants. If he was so popular and famous why did no one including most of u here didn't watch gsl project code A ??? =D
BTW boxers DM play wasn't stellar anyone with basic game sense could've done that. Stupid game that needs some rules redone. I gaurantee it comes back later with new rules or different pieces/moves because that strategy was somehow missed by the incompetent producers. And I really hate how eu nkyul was right and now its totally divided into 2 groups.
Ummm I made a thread from ep 1 s1 it's just that I didn't bother to update or anything and Clefairy made new OP. And I'm pretty sure a lot of TL saw Yellow's code A project.
I'm utterly disappointed by both ep 5 games design. Sangmin's per:
On December 31 2013 19:52 DaftFunk wrote: SPOILERS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ want his deal, they shouldnt have LET HIM CHEAT FOR THEM or NOT AGREE TO HIS PLANS!!!!
but what bugs me more.... are these stupid "Deathmatches", where its now become more ofD to his proposition when they followed his plans, and they all except yellow and junghyun intentionally gave him away when jiwon had to choose his opponent.
beyond that, yellow looks to be in strong contention to win again. its shocking to see how much of a joke boxer is. i wont sugar coat it, sorry guys. but boxer plain isnt the genius we expected him to be.
I'm pretty sure Jinho is a fan favourite, as it happens to be mine as well. So preventing boxer dying would raise the chances of a much acclaimed LimJinRok just for fan service, rather than play it right and give a fair chance to everyone.
So you think Koreans like jinho the most, because You like him? Lol. There is a bts in season 1 where eunji didn't even know who yellow was. There's a reason these guys call each other " celebrities " and " non-celebrities" and " broadcasters" etc. You have to really overrate old school bw progamer fame in Korea to think that they are even close to TV stars like sangmin and hongchul. The desire from the show for a limjinrok match is considered a bonus, not the shows main draw.
but wasn't eunji also just an announcer that happened to be "extremely" pretty? Pretty sure the number of people initially turning into the show because it had a celebrity they liked was probably 1. Sungyu 2/3: Kim Gura/Yellow.
Lol no you missed the point by a mile. Eunji is a TV personality and was part of SNL Korea. Sure jinho might've been more known than poong or cha minsoo (who BTW I've even known for a while yet most Koreans don't k ow because they don't play poker in Korea) but to say he was a huge draw before he won is false. Once he won season 1 was when this thread even came up and ppl on TL started watching. His popularity u could say "reignited" thanks to his genius moments on the show and winning. But not everyone is a die hard bw fan in Korea even if its a national sport. Its mostly young adults that still follow yellow and the rest old/young are interested in the other contestants. If he was so popular and famous why did no one including most of u here didn't watch gsl project code A ??? =D
BTW boxers DM play wasn't stellar anyone with basic game sense could've done that. Stupid game that needs some rules redone. I gaurantee it comes back later with new rules or different pieces/moves because that strategy was somehow missed by the incompetent producers. And I really hate how eu nkyul was right and now its totally divided into 2 groups.
Ummm I made a thread from ep 1 s1 it's just that I didn't bother to update or anything and Clefairy made new OP. And I'm pretty sure a lot of TL saw Yellow's code A project.
lol people on teamliquid know who yellow is and like him the most. so of course u made a topic/ppl post saying they like him the most on the show. itd be like going on to an espn forum and debating if they liked lebron james or britney spears more. and yeah people on TL would watch project A because we fucking followed broodwar and know who he is, but to think people in korea all were fans of broodwar and that yellow who on top of that has never won a starleague would be recognized as the obama of korea is ridiculous. so ummmmmmm
if you believe yellow was famous as fuck in korean media in the last 5 years and it boosts ur ego to always be right without reading anyone elses opinions so be it!
I'm utterly disappointed by both ep 5 games design. Sangmin's per:
On December 31 2013 19:52 DaftFunk wrote: SPOILERS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ want his deal, they shouldnt have LET HIM CHEAT FOR THEM or NOT AGREE TO HIS PLANS!!!!
but what bugs me more.... are these stupid "Deathmatches", where its now become more ofD to his proposition when they followed his plans, and they all except yellow and junghyun intentionally gave him away when jiwon had to choose his opponent.
beyond that, yellow looks to be in strong contention to win again. its shocking to see how much of a joke boxer is. i wont sugar coat it, sorry guys. but boxer plain isnt the genius we expected him to be.
I'm pretty sure Jinho is a fan favourite, as it happens to be mine as well. So preventing boxer dying would raise the chances of a much acclaimed LimJinRok just for fan service, rather than play it right and give a fair chance to everyone.
So you think Koreans like jinho the most, because You like him? Lol. There is a bts in season 1 where eunji didn't even know who yellow was. There's a reason these guys call each other " celebrities " and " non-celebrities" and " broadcasters" etc. You have to really overrate old school bw progamer fame in Korea to think that they are even close to TV stars like sangmin and hongchul. The desire from the show for a limjinrok match is considered a bonus, not the shows main draw.
but wasn't eunji also just an announcer that happened to be "extremely" pretty? Pretty sure the number of people initially turning into the show because it had a celebrity they liked was probably 1. Sungyu 2/3: Kim Gura/Yellow.
Lol no you missed the point by a mile. Eunji is a TV personality and was part of SNL Korea. Sure jinho might've been more known than poong or cha minsoo (who BTW I've even known for a while yet most Koreans don't k ow because they don't play poker in Korea) but to say he was a huge draw before he won is false. Once he won season 1 was when this thread even came up and ppl on TL started watching. His popularity u could say "reignited" thanks to his genius moments on the show and winning. But not everyone is a die hard bw fan in Korea even if its a national sport. Its mostly young adults that still follow yellow and the rest old/young are interested in the other contestants. If he was so popular and famous why did no one including most of u here didn't watch gsl project code A ??? =D
BTW boxers DM play wasn't stellar anyone with basic game sense could've done that. Stupid game that needs some rules redone. I gaurantee it comes back later with new rules or different pieces/moves because that strategy was somehow missed by the incompetent producers. And I really hate how eu nkyul was right and now its totally divided into 2 groups.
Ummm I made a thread from ep 1 s1 it's just that I didn't bother to update or anything and Clefairy made new OP. And I'm pretty sure a lot of TL saw Yellow's code A project.
lol people on teamliquid know who yellow is and like him the most. so of course u made a topic/ppl post saying they like him the most on the show. itd be like going on to an espn forum and debating if they liked lebron james or britney spears more. and yeah people on TL would watch project A because we fucking followed broodwar and know who he is, but to think people in korea all were fans of broodwar and that yellow who on top of that has never won a starleague would be recognized as the obama of korea is ridiculous. so ummmmmmm
if you believe yellow was famous as fuck in korean media in the last 5 years and it boosts ur ego to always be right without reading anyone elses opinions so be it!
Uh. what are you on man... you just agreed with Clefairy about Yellow being the fan favorite. Being a fan favorite of a show has nothing to do with being a more popular person in general. If everyone who likes Noh, Jiwon, etc tuned in to the Genius, I'm sure Yellow would have aimed higher than a 2.22% TV rating to give out his gift. But clearly, they don't, so how can you count them as a fan if they don't even watch it in the first place? The argument was never whether Yellow was more famous than Noh or Jiwon, it's that he's more liked among the people who watch the show. Before the airing of the second season, several trailers even played up the LimJinRok. The first thing that Noh commented in the trailer upon seeing the participants was that Boxer was brought in for Yellow. So yeah, I would say that this is a pretty big deal.
They have a valid point. I don't see why you have to be so condescending about it.
This last episode man...korean netizens are so mad every news article that have to do with any of the "distasteful/disgusting" players are swarmed by negative comments. And Dohee and eun ji won are still top 2 search rankings and lee sangmin and cho yoo young top 5 on naver for a whole day. Plus a lot of the news articles heavily criticize certain players in the celebrity line and say it actually hurt to watch last nights episode as in they felt disgusted by watching.
Another article says you can see bullying, abuse of power by the majority/those in power, and deep betrayal all in this episode and the show felt harmful to watch as it magnifies/glorifies? all those negative actions which are the most negative aspects of korean society. Bullying is related to school violence, high suicide rates among youth, and societal norms of higherups/older taking advantage of lower/younger people. The abuse of power comes from the democracy movement and bad leader/dictators korea had in its recent history and betrayal/scamming is somewhat common in businesses deals of informants/friends of friends that people initially trust.
So you can see why the show made some people disgusted as people in korea generally believe variety/game shows (there really isn't a difference in korea) are for entertainment and laughs especially ones that air late night on the weekend.
I'm utterly disappointed by both ep 5 games design. Sangmin's per:
On December 31 2013 19:52 DaftFunk wrote: SPOILERS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ want his deal, they shouldnt have LET HIM CHEAT FOR THEM or NOT AGREE TO HIS PLANS!!!!
but what bugs me more.... are these stupid "Deathmatches", where its now become more ofD to his proposition when they followed his plans, and they all except yellow and junghyun intentionally gave him away when jiwon had to choose his opponent.
beyond that, yellow looks to be in strong contention to win again. its shocking to see how much of a joke boxer is. i wont sugar coat it, sorry guys. but boxer plain isnt the genius we expected him to be.
I'm pretty sure Jinho is a fan favourite, as it happens to be mine as well. So preventing boxer dying would raise the chances of a much acclaimed LimJinRok just for fan service, rather than play it right and give a fair chance to everyone.
So you think Koreans like jinho the most, because You like him? Lol. There is a bts in season 1 where eunji didn't even know who yellow was. There's a reason these guys call each other " celebrities " and " non-celebrities" and " broadcasters" etc. You have to really overrate old school bw progamer fame in Korea to think that they are even close to TV stars like sangmin and hongchul. The desire from the show for a limjinrok match is considered a bonus, not the shows main draw.
but wasn't eunji also just an announcer that happened to be "extremely" pretty? Pretty sure the number of people initially turning into the show because it had a celebrity they liked was probably 1. Sungyu 2/3: Kim Gura/Yellow.
Eunji was not the draw of season 1. She was the production favorite (ie got in because shes the mistress/target of some studio bigshot). The rest of the cast knew it, in fact sunkyu scandal in episode 9 BTS was because of his eunji remark calling her a korean version of a temptress. Eunji then replied that the world is a hard place and a 30 year old single woman finds it very tough to survive in the broadcasting industry.
Season1 draw was sunkyu and kim gura. After gura was kicked off, leesangmin was helping sunkyu. Season 2 favorite is definitely jo yoyoung. Maybe she is Jiwon's recommendation who knows though its more likely shes some bigshot's starlet.
Jinho is currently very popular in korea thx to his victory in genius. Hes hosting gameshows with jungmoon, music videos and now even other networks are pulling him in. Not sure wat programme they are practicing for but looks funny :-
Sunkyu popularity skyrocketed after the genius. Admittedly he was a pivotal figure throughout s1 unlike the s2 broadcasters who mainly just block others victory. Nonetheless yoyoung, hongchul, jiwon popularity will skyrocket if they win the genius regardless of their actions. Even a last 4 finish would make them very popular.
A variety show appearance might net them 10-20 minutes of airtime and usually ur the subcast to the variety show host. The genius allows lots more airtime and you're the main cast able to show off urself. Put simply genius is so big in korea now that eveyone want to go far in it even the bignames.
I heard the ratings for the premiere was above 2.2%, I also know that only 2 network variety has ratings above 3% and those are primetime slots. That makes genius very big. Sunkyu/Gura was paid to be on genius1. I bet u jaekyung etc volunteered to join without payment.
Sunggyu and Gura were probably the only ones more popular (or maybe widely known is the right word) than Yellow before season 1, though Yellow was probably more popular on the internet than either of those two. Yellow has a very strange popularity compared to other people and progamers though. He was the center of a ton of Korean memes in the 2000s so he's huge for certain types of people. There's a reason why the majority of the BTS videos in season 1 were focused on him and Sunggyu even early on.
Also some tweets from Poong and Changyeop: Poong I just watched The Genius. Enjoy the game players~ Garnets are important. Put your life on the line for garnets.
Changyeop @kimpoong I think season 2 is putting other's lives on the line for garnets ㅋㅋ
Poong @99chacha Of course garnets are only meaningful if you get to the top, but garnets are what validates the behavior of the players in The Genius. Since doing something to earn garnets is an accepted consensus in The Genius.
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