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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
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SkullZ9
Belgium2048 Posts
On October 08 2013 06:09 Caladan wrote: "too much progamers" yaddayadda... I think everyone is agreeing in the fact that if you enjoy a game you play it. That's the point of playing. Payment or not. Why do you think thousands are starting Broodwar again. I can tell you, not for the money. I won't say more, because it's forbidden on TL.net nowadays to say that the game is not good (in IT terms that's called "security through obscurity"). So I won't say it. Just read that above and think logical please. Ok so first of all, enjoyment has nothing to do with Shuttle's decision to retire, the reason is he has to do his military service. And you can't be a real progamer, who lives with his passion if you gain zero money from it, that's logical. There are people that plays only because they enjoy the game and they don't have any money from it in BW and in SC2, but you can't call these "progamers". Progamers : professional gamers. Profession : you live from that  | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
On October 08 2013 05:04 e4e5nf3 wrote: It's been a tough year for SC2. I almost dread what 2014 will bring. Meanwhile Coke Zero has recently decided to sponsor LoL and all the fans and players are rejoicing at how this is a momentous step for esports as a whole. Talk about opposite sides of the spectrum. b...but riot doesnt have a sustainable model and their scene only relies on their money! | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
On October 08 2013 06:18 SkullZ9 wrote: Ok so first of all, enjoyment has nothing to do with Shuttle's decision to retire, the reason is he has to do his military service. And you can't be a real progamer, who lives with his passion if you gain zero money from it, that's logical. There are people that plays only because they enjoy the game and they don't have any money from it in BW and in SC2, but you can't call these "progamers". Progamers : professional gamers. Profession : you live from that I think he wrote "I retire SC2". He did not write "I retire as a progamer but will continue playing". Please read the OP properly before spreading false information... :/ Besides, having to go *next year* to military is not really a reason to stop playing the game SC2 now, hm? I'm studying but yet I play plenty of games throughout the day. | ||
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3711 Posts
On October 08 2013 05:04 e4e5nf3 wrote: It's been a tough year for SC2. I almost dread what 2014 will bring. Meanwhile Coke Zero has recently decided to sponsor LoL and all the fans and players are rejoicing at how this is a momentous step for esports as a whole. Talk about opposite sides of the spectrum. Coca-cola sponsored gsl in 2011 and an osl in like 2001. RIOT propaganda may be strong, but coke doing something in esports is not new and not a mile stone and not a momentous step for esports. On top of that the energy drink that sponsors IM is owned by cola. Riot may sell it's game as THE esport and everything connected to it as MONUMENTAL STEPS for esports, but that is barely ever true. There is very little that actually hasn't done shit in esports, heck back in 06 mlg was sponsored by scion and boost mobile. OT: Oh noes somebody who never got any results after years of playing decides to retire :O And what you say he has to do a mandatory military service? I guess thats really bad for our scene and all. | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
On October 08 2013 06:43 Lorch wrote: Coca-cola sponsored gsl in 2011 and an osl in like 2001. RIOT propaganda may be strong, but coke doing something in esports is not new and not a mile stone and not a momentous step for esports. On top of that the energy drink that sponsors IM is owned by cola. Riot may sell it's game as THE esport and everything connected to it as MONUMENTAL STEPS for esports, but that is barely ever true. There is very little that actually hasn't done shit in esports, heck back in 06 mlg was sponsored by scion and boost mobile. OT: Oh noes somebody who never got any results after years of playing decides to retire :O And what you say he has to do a mandatory military service? I guess thats really bad for our scene and all. Wasn't it Pepsi that sponsored GSL, anyways what has happened since then? GSL is being sponsored by a small online store and there's no pro BW anymore. If anything, Riot is picking up where the other big games stopped. American Express and Coca Cola (Nissan too iirc) are putting money for a video game in a place that's not Korea, if you don't consider that a huge step for #esports I don't know what else any company could do to convince you. | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On October 08 2013 06:43 Lorch wrote: Coca-cola sponsored gsl in 2011 and an osl in like 2001. RIOT propaganda may be strong, but coke doing something in esports is not new and not a mile stone and not a momentous step for esports. On top of that the energy drink that sponsors IM is owned by cola. Riot may sell it's game as THE esport and everything connected to it as MONUMENTAL STEPS for esports, but that is barely ever true. There is very little that actually hasn't done shit in esports, heck back in 06 mlg was sponsored by scion and boost mobile. OT: Oh noes somebody who never got any results after years of playing decides to retire :O And what you say he has to do a mandatory military service? I guess thats really bad for our scene and all. Coke used to sponsor Snute when he was on GL :D | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 08 2013 06:43 Lorch wrote: Coca-cola sponsored gsl in 2011 and an osl in like 2001. RIOT propaganda may be strong, but coke doing something in esports is not new and not a mile stone and not a momentous step for esports. On top of that the energy drink that sponsors IM is owned by cola. Riot may sell it's game as THE esport and everything connected to it as MONUMENTAL STEPS for esports, but that is barely ever true. There is very little that actually hasn't done shit in esports, heck back in 06 mlg was sponsored by scion and boost mobile. OT: Oh noes somebody who never got any results after years of playing decides to retire :O And what you say he has to do a mandatory military service? I guess thats really bad for our scene and all. There're differences though. In those cases, Coke sponsored existing tournaments/leagues, without them the tournaments are still there. In the LoL case, the league series is formed and organized by CokeZero. If they were out, the whole thing would go out. | ||
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Glenn313
United States475 Posts
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
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DumJumJmyWum
United States75 Posts
Thanks for the games shuttle! | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
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krooked
376 Posts
Players are retiring because they don't see a future in the game. I won't even go into if they enjoy it or not - They simply do not believe it to be lucrative to keep playing. Because they know that the scene is on a steep decline. If you can't see this by now I wonder if its just pure denial or stupidity. Nobody is saying that the pro scene will die completely, but sc2 will fall until it is a somewhat niche game for a couple of years before it dies off at last. But don't you guys worry about that, just enjoy the game. Because after all, you are enjoying the game, right? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:54 krooked wrote: It truly is ridiculous that in every thread so many people talk about "healthy downsizing" and "military service". Players are retiring because they don't see a future in the game. I won't even go into if they enjoy it or not - They simply do not believe it to be lucrative to keep playing. Because they know that the scene is on a steep decline. If you can't see this by now I wonder if its just pure denial or stupidity. Nobody is saying that the pro scene will die completely, but sc2 will fall until it is a somewhat niche game for a couple of years before it dies off at last. But don't you guys worry about that, just enjoy the game. Because after all, you are enjoying the game, right? What's truly ridiculous is people like you who actually believe the state of the scene has any impact on a player like Shuttle's earnings. Name an Esport that will support a player without a team, without any tournament results and without good stream numbers. Go ahead. We can wait. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
Getting closer to the end of the year and no info about next years WCS season yet, I guess we will see a bit more of this for a few months. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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