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On October 09 2013 02:08 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:05 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS KR 2014 will be very interesting with a full reset on Code S/A and many returning koreans lol. In fact i am sure that Soulkey and probably lot more favorites won't qualify at all in those qualifiers. Yes, Korean scene is THAT stacked.
Korea was always stacked. GSL and OSL will be prestigious once again. WCS NA and EU on the other hand... *yawn*
Can anyone in NA beat Polt? I'd say Suppy and DeMuslim and Scarlett has a chance, off the top of my head. But otherwise, Polt would probably be the favourite?
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On October 09 2013 02:08 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:05 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS KR 2014 will be very interesting with a full reset on Code S/A and many returning koreans lol. In fact i am sure that Soulkey and probably lot more favorites won't qualify at all in those qualifiers. Yes, Korean scene is THAT stacked.
If thats the only change and all the NA and EU koreans come back there will be a lot of retirements :/
WCS Korea alone isnt enough to sustain so many players, they would need more tourneys.
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On October 09 2013 01:39 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 01:24 krooked wrote:On October 08 2013 10:31 WolfintheSheep wrote:On October 08 2013 09:54 krooked wrote:
It truly is ridiculous that in every thread so many people talk about "healthy downsizing" and "military service".
Players are retiring because they don't see a future in the game. I won't even go into if they enjoy it or not - They simply do not believe it to be lucrative to keep playing. Because they know that the scene is on a steep decline. If you can't see this by now I wonder if its just pure denial or stupidity.
Nobody is saying that the pro scene will die completely, but sc2 will fall until it is a somewhat niche game for a couple of years before it dies off at last. But don't you guys worry about that, just enjoy the game. Because after all, you are enjoying the game, right? What's truly ridiculous is people like you who actually believe the state of the scene has any impact on a player like Shuttle's earnings. Name an Esport that will support a player without a team, without any tournament results and without good stream numbers. Go ahead. We can wait. Where did I mention Shuttle? Yes, I am aware that this thread is about Shuttle but as I'm sure you've noticed all these retirement-threads tend to have a theme these days. Its "Great stuff, scene is gonna be better, too many players atm" vs "SC2 ded gem". Both sides are too extreme, there is truth in both but whats crazy is that the "ded gem" ppl are mostly trolling while those who cite downsizing is actually dead serious. The trolls are pretty serious too. And the downsizing is natural, since many, but not all, of the players retiring haven't won anything or accomplished much. Right now any team less player can claim he is retiring, even if his professional career never has nothing of note. But people take these claims as some sort of evidence of the game dying.
I think the trolls more likes to justify leaving starcraft. Personally I almost never play sc2 anymore and mostly play league or bw, and I can understand why the trolls are saying what they are. My view on starcraft2's future went from "hopeful" to pessimistic the second I realized its not THAT important to me.
Players retiring can easily be explained as natural downsizing: I agree that most of the players retiring aren't really big names a tall, they are high level jobbers at best. And I certainly don't think the scene is literally going to die anytime soon. But its the combination of a lot of players retiring, statements from players like Bisu, the obvious problems sc2 is facing in Korea, in game problems (deathball vs deathball, stale meta etc are common things people complain about), the fact that league is doing so very well and that recruitment for sc2 doesn't seem very big - All the friends I know who bought sc2 have went on to other games, and when I try to recruit new players they just don't like the game. I think this goes for a lot of other people.
Basically, sc2 is in a tight spot right now. Not a "sc2 is dead and nobody will be playing this game in 2014"-tight, but still.
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Is he retiring from esports for good? Or is he like Bisu and going back to BW? Cause I see him stream sometime..
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On October 09 2013 13:55 DoubleAce wrote:
Is he retiring from esports for good? Or is he like Bisu and going back to BW? Cause I see him stream sometime..
That's a different Shuttle. The one who streams bw played on STX Soul back in bw.
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On October 09 2013 02:12 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 02:08 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 09 2013 02:05 Die4Ever wrote:
WCS KR 2014 will be very interesting with a full reset on Code S/A and many returning koreans lol. In fact i am sure that Soulkey and probably lot more favorites won't qualify at all in those qualifiers. Yes, Korean scene is THAT stacked. Korea was always stacked. GSL and OSL will be prestigious once again. WCS NA and EU on the other hand... *yawn* Can anyone in NA beat Polt? I'd say Suppy and DeMuslim and Scarlett has a chance, off the top of my head. But otherwise, Polt would probably be the favourite?
DeMuslim is nowhere near to beat Scarlett and Polt. They are on another planets compared to him. He will keep chokeing in "important" tournaments like always. I don''t understand the hype of DeMuslim, its on the level on the Lucifron hype. It's annoying as hell. Why cant people just be realistic????? =.=
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See you on the other side Shuttle.~
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NOOOOOOooooooo!!! 
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